I may only be like chapter 7 into Over The Threshold but I am lwk SOBBING AT THEM
(I love your fic sm shhsusgub 💖)
Is that some Over the Threshold love I see in my inbox? What a blessed day 🥹 Thank you so much! Really glad you're enjoying the fic and I hope it continues! That's my baby right there!
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Ahhh thank you so much! This world lives rent free in my brain 24/7 and I consider myself very lucky to be able to share it with people like you. Really glad you're enjoying the story ♥
coming here because obviously i have not stopped thinking about chapter 16 since reading it last night and realized i didn't even mention the pompompurin mug in my comment (bc this is when i was locked in and stopped writing all my thoughts down). back then i thought it was working on a psychological level but then that this chapter? god, it's both. it's both and i'm screaming into my pillow about it.
oh and by the way, i always think of ott when i see pompompurin and cinnamonroll next to each other in the store. which is frequent where i live lol. i think i once sent you a pic of their plushies from my main (something i never do) because i couldn't resist 😋
okay, that's all, ily bye!
- @massivelyanerd
Before I yap and yap and yap, you did indeed share your CinnaPom photo! I remember it vividly! Actually, I've received quite a lot of photos from readers who've bought CinnaPom merch because of Over the Threshold over the last two years, and it never ceases to amaze me. The thought of real people thinking of my story out there in the big wide world blows my mind. It makes me feel really connected to everyone and reminds me why sharing art matters, so thank you again. It means more than you know.
Talking of poor Pompompurin, let's discuss this little detail in chapter 16. To my knowledge, you are the first person to catch this, dear lennie, and it makes me very, very happy indeed ♥
Sometimes I question why I'm wasting my time bothering with such tiny details. I could write this story much faster if I wasn't so fastidious about these things, but I always end up persevering because I ultimately believe that even if readers don't consciously pick up on them, it'll feed into their subconscious enjoyment and absorption of the story. The shattered bottle and poor Suguru's forehead paint a picture of the kind of night he's had, even if people don't make the direct connection to Pompompurin in chapter 13.
(Speaking of, "Would he toss Suguru in favour of a new model too?" I think Satoru answered that question a thousand times over this chapter.)
I think the re-read value of Over the Threshold gets higher with every chapter, and I hope those few people who go back to read the whole thing in one sitting when they're done will see things they never noticed before. However, I'll still never know whether anyone notices most of these little callbacks to foreshadowing in earlier chapters and the references to canon that I agonise over. They're minor ornaments to the rich tapestry of the text; they're not supposed to stand out, but I trust that they're doing their job.
All that in mind, I cannot even begin to describe the joy I feel when someone not only notices them, but points them out to me! It's a throw my arms up in a cheer and run around the house moment! God, it means so much that you pay such close attention to something that I am well aware no one will ever care about as much as me. It means all my wanky artist moments were worth it!
Your comments are always rewarding in this way, and this one was no different. The airplane reference?! I cannot believe you 😭 I think my fics are probably extra enjoyable to people like you who recall moments from canon so readily. I'm really happy you felt the car scene evoked Yaga on the stairs with Satoru, and that you loved his dynamic with Ijichi. Those two relationships were so important to this chapter and they're very special to me in canon, too. This chapter in particular shares a real dialogue with the source material, and I'm so glad it was felt. Delighted to have a fellow nerd reading, hehe!
As a prize for your keen eye and memory, here's another little detail from chapter 5 that I just happened to be thinking about earlier today:
‘Careful what you wish for, Suguru.’ Satoru was grinning at him now, excitement dancing across every inch of his lovely face. ‘I’ve got a mean right hook.’
Despite the manicured hands and the unbroken nose and the delicate jewellery affixed to his ear, Suguru guessed that anyone who underestimated Satoru in a fight would probably pay for it dearly.
I published that all the way back in December 2023 after writing it with that moment from chapter 16 in mind. Even I'm impressed by my patience and restraint at this point.
Thank you so much for loving my story and handling it with such care, @massivelyanerd. So grateful to count you as a reader ♥
I listened to Shameless by the Weeknd for the first time last night after reading Ch 16 of Over the Threshold and it’s been stuck in my head all day. The song fits the chapter so well, amazing recommendation and the whole thing left me shocked. I actually loved the twisted gut feeling of things “going wrong” and the reveal of the darker side of Satoru. I also viewed your instagram highlight from your trip to Japan and the attention to detail is phenomenal, it looked fabulous. Thank you for sharing your writing, I’ve enjoyed reading bc this fic and your analysis of the show as a whole on your blog tremendously :)
- 🪅
Every single person who listens to Shameless immediately after reading the chapter automatically makes their way onto my favourite readers list. That's you, piñata anon!
Thank you for this wonderful message, ugh! I'm really riding some wild high from this chapter and I could yap about it forever, especially in relation to my choices about how to present Satoru, but I've said before that I may share some essays on AO3 when it's done. Completely self indulgent, but hopefully at least one other person will find the contents illuminating!
For now, I'll just say I'm really glad you enjoyed it. Really touched that you went out of your way to check out the highlights too! Walking SatoSugu's route through the Imperial Gardens was one of those moments where my heart felt too big for my body to contain it!
Thanks for the support and all your kind words, piñata anon ♥
WHEN I CATCH YOU !!! I SWEAR TO YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO ANON ! MY HATE IS PURE AND FOR THE WORLD TO SEE !
~THAT S WHY YOU ALWAYS CALL ME COZ YOU RE SCARED TO BE LOOOOVED~
KOU HAS CAUGHT UP WITH OVER THE THRESHOLD AND ALL IS RIGHT WITH THE WORLD ONCE MORE. You hate me and I love you. That's how this works. So so grateful to have you as a reader.
As for everyone else reading this, open up chapter 16 right now and get this in your ears in the aftermath. You won't regret it.
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ME TOO, ANON, ME TOO ♥ I'm on cloud nine this morning, I'm so so happy it's finally out there in the world. Truly wild how much this story has come to rule my life and I'm so happy that I'm not alone with it, even after all this time.
I really hope you enjoy it, anon! It's a special one!
I don’t think this song is really your vibe, but stumbling upon it made me think of ott. I think the time for this song in the fic has long passed, but it’s so soft I wanted to share it anyways.
The song is: such great heights by iron & wine
I hope you enjoy it if you choose to give it a listen someday!
This is such an Over the Threshold song. In fact, it's such an Over the Threshold song that I put it on the playlist. You're right that it isn't the type of music I'd usually listen to, but there's a lot of music on that playlist that isn't necessarily to my tastes but belongs there nevertheless! And, controversially perhaps, I like it better than the original by The Postal Service.
Anyway, you've earned yourself a fushiglow yap session below the cut, because these lyrics have no business being this relevant to Threshold SatoSugu specifically!
Let's start with this part:
But it's thoughts like this that catch
My troubled head when you're away
When I am missing you to death
When you are out there on the road
For several weeks of shows
And when you scan the radio
I hope this song will guide you home
Hello, "Solo" Suguru and his guardian angel of the Shibuya Route. The lyrics about the "machine" in the verse that follows are very reminiscent of Suguru avoiding Satoru's phonecalls because he finds it difficult to connect over such great distances, especially when they've found connecting through music effortless up until that point in the fic:
I tried my best to leave
This all on your machine
But the persistent beat
It sounded thin upon listening
And that frankly will not fly
You will hear the shrillest highs
And lowest lows with the windows down
When this is guiding you home
Threshold SatoSugu really are a "let the music do the talking" couple, but is that enough? Anyway, it's a fun bit of writing here. A musician who understands how the average car radio sounds clearly wrote these lyrics. It's precisely why I wrote this part in chapter 12:
As though his guardian angel had heard him from the other side of the globe, Suguru’s ears picked up a familiar beat trickling through his shitty car speakers. The dirty bass was completely lost to the treble heavy set up of the plastic speakers, but Suguru didn’t care. He didn’t care that he’d heard the song over a thousand times by this point. He didn’t care that he could listen to it whenever he wanted — isolate the vocals and feed Satoru’s breathless gasps directly through his headphones.
Turning up the radio almost to max, Suguru closed his eyes and let himself imagine, just for a moment, that Satoru was sat alongside him, his vocals raw and unfiltered where they caressed Suguru’s eardrums. Like that day in the studio in May. No dancers, no screaming crowd.
No one but Satoru and Suguru.
Here's a fun modern myth for you! It isn't repeated as often these days where quality in-built sound systems are higher up on the priority list for modern buyers, but among amateur mixing engineers and DIY artists, testing your mix in the car has long been considered the last "test" to pass before signing off a track — because that's where most listeners are going to hear the song.
Mixing engineers have a tendency to obsess over the finer details as heard through their expensive monitors. However, almost all of those details are going to be lost on the average listener. The logic is that if it sounds good over the shittiest car speakers, it's going to sound amazing on the best hi-fi sound system in the world. Like I said, modern myth because it's never really been a reliable way to judge the quality of a mix.
Still, testing your mix through lots of different channels is always a good idea! Ear fatigue is a very real thing for producers and mixing/mastering engineers. It's incredibly easy to lose perspective after listening to a section on repeat even just a handful of times, so it's very helpful to hear things in novel settings before signing off on anything, at least until you've gained plenty of experience.
Obvious lyrics out of the way, it's actually the chorus that reminds me of Threshold SatoSugu the most:
They will see us waving from such great heights
"Come down now," they'll say
But everything looks perfect from far away
"Come down now," but we'll stay
There's something very ominously Icarus about it all. Of course, stars and gravity are a recurring motif in Over the Threshold. This part from chapter 7 feels particularly relevant:
He was walking among the stars, too high on the tranquil joy of surrender to care about deadlines or delivery dates. [...]
But then [Satoru']s grip on Suguru’s shirt loosened a little — and the cord tethering Suguru to reality tugged at his ankle in response. The sudden realisation that Satoru was going away felt like falling through rainclouds. Down, down, down until his feet were on solid ground and he was left staring at the sky, the stars overhead always out of reach even as they bathed him in their cold light.
Poor Suguru never knows if he's up or down. He wants to be worthy of standing at Satoru's side, and I think Satoru makes his feelings about that pretty damn clear:
‘If anyone can do it,’ Satoru clarified. ‘It’s us.’
Satoru, the shining star among a sea of K-pop groups. Satoru, so individually brilliant that he broke the formula. Satoru, who always worked alone because other people could only ever hold him back.
And he’d chosen Suguru.
The gravity of it was startling. Yet Suguru felt buoyed by it, weightless on the current of Satoru’s faith in him — because no one had ever really believed in Suguru like that before. The feeling of it coursing around his bloodstream was potent and exciting, the way all drugs felt on the first try. It made his grin feel a little manic.
‘Us, then.’
But Suguru is being tossed on the waves, unsure whether he's sinking or swimming, unsure whether to fight against them or let them take him:
Truly, Satoru was a star. His shining star. Luminous, incandescent. Transcendent, even, burning brighter than entire galaxies. He was the most brilliant of them all, a light with no equal.
And he’d chosen Suguru. He kept choosing Suguru.
The gravity of it was startling. It weighed on him. It exhausted him. He thought he’d given up resisting the pull that the singer exerted on him. Thought he’d made a home in Satoru’s inescapable orbit. Thought he’d resigned himself to being swallowed up by his beautiful explosion, too.
Ugh, stupid man. I love him. But yeah, with this context, I like how the chorus suddenly acquires a healthy dose of dread depending on whose perspective you listen to the lyrics from.
As a more general SatoSugu song, I also really love the opening lyrics about "mirror images", "perfectly aligned", "corresponding shapes", and "puzzle pieces". Of course, SatoSugu evoke yin and yang in very obvious ways, but I was talking to a friend recently about how even Gege's uniform design for these characters is very complementary. Gojo is very top heavy while Geto is very bottom heavy, and this is true of their respective "uniforms" as adults in JJK 0, too. Stood side by side like this, they slot together like two pieces of a puzzle!
Well, you can always rely on Tumblr user fushiglow to yap when no one asked. Thank you for sharing the song, anon ♥
Holy shit, I’m listening to the pure tone playlist. How do you always pick songs that itch my brain just right?
God, you have truly, so so sincerely changed my life with these playlists you make. I’m pretty open and flexible when it comes to music and you’ve really expanded my tastes with what you’ve chosen to share for ott.
(((As I write this I’m ~ halfway through ch. 14, maybe slightly less than half? Currently feeling mushy in a good way and uplifted about the rest of the chapter. Maybe I never had anything to worry about!)))
Anyways, thank you for everything you have put time and energy into for this fic universe, playlists included! It’s so fun to feel that much more immersed in the music and the story!
- massivelyanerd 💖
I'm very late to this, I'm sorry! I feel like I spend half my time apologising for missing messages and stuff. I forget about the existence of anything and everything as soon as it leaves my immediate field of vision. This is why Tumblr needs a "mark as unread" function because I get excited by notifications and check messages/asks when I'm not in a position to respond immediately!
Anyway, (in)appropriately ADHD ramble aside, ahhhhhh! Music ask, music ask! I have, of course, seen your comment on the chapter and I actually didn't need your marker to figure out at which point you sent this since... Well, since chapter 14 is ~like that~ but I appreciated it all the same! It makes me feel like I was sitting alongside you as you were reading, and it's always really special to get closer to readers in this way.
Firstly, thank you for all of your kind words here and on the fic itself ♥ It means so much! As for the playlist itself, I'm very interested to know if you listened while reading and, if so, did you feel like certain songs belonged to certain moments? I don't want to influence your answer (if you even have one) but I have some thoughts on the playlist myself, so perhaps I'll share those in another post if you're interested? It's been around a month since chapter 14 came out, so I think enough time has passed.
Regardless, I'm really glad you enjoyed it, but please feel free to yap at me some more if you'd like to! I'd love to hear which songs are your favourites, which are outside your usual playbook, literally anything at all you want to share! If you're interested in the fic, I'll also eagerly await any thoughts on the upcoming Something Blue, Borrowed playlist because I curated that one more carefully than any other fic playlist I've created, I think.
For anyone else reading, please take this as an open invitation to answer any of the questions I've asked here! I'd love to hear your thoughts on the playlist or a specific song or any other song you associate with the chapter/the characters/the fic in general. Reblog the post, leave a reply, send an ask, whatever you like! I know I have a couple of music related asks to respond to (and don't worry, I'll get to them!) but this is your reminder that you can always talk to Tumblr user fushiglow about music. It's always morally correct.
Thank you so much for the ask and for all the support as always ♥ I appreciate you so much!
(Tagging you, @massivelyanerd, because I want to ensure you see this since it's been ages since you sent the ask. If you're uncomfortable, let me know and I'll happily remove the tag!)