Skype Chats: Valoran and Racism
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: You know what my favourite part about this creative spotlight is, though?
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: Noxian racism being evident and Shuriman words being: revealed
Lilith / Sivir: I KNEW NOXUS WAS RACIST
Lilith / Sivir: IVE BELIEVED IT THE ENTIRE TIME IVE HAD MY SIVIR BLOG
Lilith / Sivir: AND I GOT SHIT FOR IT
Lilith / Sivir: SUCK MY DICK, IT'S CANON
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: I'm p sure it was confirmed for canon ages ago tho like
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: Noxians were described as xenophobic last I recall
Lilith / Sivir: they did try to kill off like ALL the Ionians
Lilith / Sivir: AND they got into it with Barbarians, and wanted to kill them too
Lilith / Sivir: I figured it only made sense that they hate Shurimans too, especially because they are so different culturally and visually
Lilith / Sivir: I mean, the dude literally straight up went "all shurimans are theives and tomb raiders"
Lilith / Sivir: like wow, rude as fuck
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: And this is the view of someone who did clerical work
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: Nice.jpg
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: So it's not just some soldier displaying resentment or something
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: This is an actual Noxian citizen going "look at these savages"
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: The guy even disrespected how one of the Shurimans viewed his home
Lilith / Sivir: IT'S INGRAINED IN THEIR CULTURE TO HATE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T NOXIAN/WHITE
Lilith / Sivir: I feel Demacia is also racist to an extent, but not nearly as much as Noxus
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: They're racist against anyone who doesn't follow their code of justice, which probably counts
Lilith / Sivir: I feel like Prince Jarvan IV is making STRIDES to get rid of racism and class-discrimination
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: They probably have slurs for Freljord people
Lilith / Sivir: he's got a half dragon on his guard
Lilith / Sivir: as well as quinn, who was a peasant before she became a knight
Lilith / Sivir: and you're right, Demacians and Freljordians don't get along
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: I think it's mostly because J4 doesn't really care who/what you are, as long as you can pick up a sword or something and fight
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: You fight for Demacia, you're p. cool
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: Hilariously enough, "J Money" isn't the stupid jock people confuse him for
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: He was brought up in a time of war, so it's what he knows
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: That includes knowing how to take allies when you get them
Lilith / Sivir: It's hard to climb the social ladder in Demacia
Lilith / Sivir: but even HARDER to climb in Noxus
Lilith / Sivir: the two cities are very complex and very different
Lilith / Sivir: but they are also similar in a lot of ways
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: Including the way both city-states strictly adhere to their own morals and will accept no other substitute? :D
Lilith / Sivir: for the amount that they hate each other
Lilith / Sivir: they are both the same
Lilith / Sivir: Demacia and Noxus see things their own way, and ONLY their own way
Lilith / Sivir: In other city states, opinions are more flexible
Lilith / Sivir: Freljord, Ionia, Shurima, Bandle, Bilgewater
Lilith / Sivir: all very flexible in ideas and morals and culture
Lilith / Sivir: I usually compare Demacia to like....America/the UK
Lilith / Sivir: and Noxus to Germany....specifically similar to Nazi Germany in a lot of ways
Lilith / Sivir: I just see a lot of similarities
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: I feel like UK suits Demacia more tbh.
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: They were really strict on pressing themselves on people back in the day, to the point where they owned 90% of the world
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: I feel like Dermercier would do the same, just to put Runeterra under the banner of justice
Lilith / Sivir: I feel like there's a missed lore opportunity here
Lilith / Sivir: Demacia hates Noxus because they invaded and comitted atrocities in other places
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: And Noxus is like Nazi Germany 2.0 b/c I'm pretty sure the citizens knew what was going on, and even after a staged match ripped their claws out of Ionia they went "Huh. Yeah."
Lilith / Sivir: but Imagine: Demacia trying to expand and take over to create that "perfect world of justice"
Lilith / Sivir: and they do the same fucking thing Noxus does
Lilith / Sivir: slay anyone who disagrees
Gay Thoughts [Lyn]: "cold hammer of justice"