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I was just thinking, maybe Jon having his hair all messy and in the wind like that, after heâs had that neat man bun for 2 seasons, is the hair departmentâs way to visually show the audience Jonâs identity crisis in Season 8, after finding out that his biological father was never Ned Stark.
You are awesome, all your metas are on point. They got me into Jonsa. I recently saw a gifset about when sansa got her first period where was wearing a dress which was embroidered with snow flakes (it seemed to me as such). Do think it is forshadowing for jonsa as they did for R+L=J theory?
omg NONNY!! OMG!! I never noticed THAT!! Iâm shook rn!! đ±
Those are 100% Snowflakes on her dress!!!! âïž
I mean, come on!! Sansa gets her period and out of all the embroidery they couldâve picked from, the costume department has her wear a dress with Snowflakes on it? This is indeed subtle and beautiful foreshadowing for Jonsa.Â
Sansa getting her period represented the âdeathâ of her childhood and her ârebirthâ as a woman, and it was traumatic moment for her, for reasons we all know.Â
But the Snowflakes on her dress got me thinking, what if the blood on her dress, that has SNOWflakes on it, was also a way to foreshadow Jon bleeding to death, to foreshadow Jonâs death and ârebirthâ, âKill the boy, Jon Snow. Kill the boy and let the man be born.â? And this was also a way to hint that Sansa will be the woman that will help him get over the trauma of dying and then being resurrected?
Also, after the scene where Sansa gets her period aka becomes a woman, we have Cersei telling Sansa:Â
âThe more people you love, the weaker you are.Â
Youâll do things for them that you know you shouldnât do.Â
Youâll act the fool to make them happy, to keep them safe.â
In season 7, through Jon, we saw that Cerseiâs words to Sansa from Season 2 were true. Jon literally went to call himself a Northern FOOL. And for whom did Jon behave like a Northern fool for? Whom does he love? Whom did he go to Dragonstone for? For Sansa, to keep her SAFE, to keep his PROMISE.
âIf I donât watch over you, fatherâs ghost will come back and murder me.âÂ
âIâll protect you, I promise.â
âAlright, Iâll stop trying to protect you when [âŠ].âÂ
I believe that in season 8 it will be Sansaâs turn to act the fool to protect Jon, to keep him safe, thus taking over Nedâs role and basically committing to his promise to Lyanna, after the reveal of his real parentage gets out, and Iâm very much looking forward to seeing that. âThis season will be more of a PASSIONATE fight for her (Sansa), than a political kind of fight.â
#PassionIsComing y'all đ„
So yeah, the scene of her getting her period connects Jon and Sansa together, it foreshadows Jonsa.Â
I mean all these subtle details are just AMAZING. Fast forward to season 4, and as others have pointed out, both Sansa and Jon get sex advice in the SAME EPISODE!! Sansa from Margaery and Jon from Tormund, & now we know Sansa having her period aka becoming a woman, flowering, âYou flowered my dear, no more.â // âIs your flower still blooming?â (I mean they made a pretty big deal out of her flowering/getting her period.) is linked to Jon, due to her wearing a Snowflaked dress.Â
Another thing that got me thinking; Sansa is described to be blooming and flowering after she gets her period, and Jon is the son of Lyanna Stark, which was associated with a flower, a blue Rose to be more exact.Â
Ned about Lyanna, âBeautiful and willful, and dead BEFORE HER TIME.â, Lyanna was so young, and had her entire life ahead of her, meaning she was still growing, changing, becoming more and more beautiful, she was still blooming, and then she saddenly passed away due to child birth.Â
Blooming and flowering have double meaning.
Going back to the subtle details that link Sansa and Jon, Sansa being infatuated with Ser Loras, a hansome, valiant, gentle, curly haired knight,
and Jon having a thing for fierce redheads, is another one.
We have Sansa in season 2 speaking up and being compassionate, being the only one brave enough to challange JOFFREY F*ING BARATHEON and say something for Dontos, saving his life, she did it without even thinking about the consequences, she just blurted âYou canât!â out, because that was her first instinct. Jon does the same thing, heâs the only one that feels compassion and is brave enough to go against the order/decision of a âKingâ, to do the right thing, so he shoots Mance in the heart with an arrow, sparing him from burning alive and giving him a quick and painless death instead.Â
And there really are people out there saying, âJon wonât care she burned the Tarlys alive! Itâs war!â, sure Jans, keep telling yourselves that lol Heâll care, since Tyrion even tried to tell her, to reason with her, but unlike Sansa with Joffrey, unlike JOFFREY it didnât work, SHE DIDNâT LISTEN.
And, since weâre speaking about costumes and their symbolism, we have Sansa in season 6, wearing matching outfits with Jon, the cloaks, Sansaâs with silver and black furr and Jonâs with black and red furr. I mean they straight up look royal and as the script says, majestic.
And this carries on to season 7 (whereas Jon NEVER matched with Dandelion, they looked wrong/off together the whole season/time), where Jon wears the breastplate with the two direwolves,Â
and Sansa wears the collar with the two direwolves, and as soon as Jon leaves and she remains alone in Winterfell, she stops wearing it, same thing for her hair, after he leaves she never wears it down like in episode 1 and 2 again.Â
Just look at them, they look PERFECT together, NEITHER OF THEM is nor looks out of place.
Sansaâs hair when Jon is around, is down and beautifully frames her face (again I will never get over how breathtaking Sophie looked here, well done to the makeup department, she looked absolutely breathtaking here.
And now look at her hair after he left. (Iâll get back to this in more detail in a bit.)
Back to Sansaâs collar, at first I thought she stopped wearing the collar because she was the only Stark in Winterfell, so what would be the point, but then, youâd expect her to start wearing the direwolves collar again after Bran shows up, right? Since sheâs no longer alone, since she no longer is the only Stark in Winterfell, but SHE DOESNâT, not even when Arya shows up, and that is because that collar with the two direwolves on it represents HER and JON.
She wore it, she made it, so she could show the Norhtern Lords, so she could show the North, that they were a strong team together, she wore it to show them that Jon had her full support, but most importantly, she wore it because of Jon, she wore it FOR Jon, she wore it to show JON, all those things I just mentioned, and to show him that theyâre in it together, that no matter what sheâll be there all the way to support him, help him and advise him the best she can, to make sure he doesnât make mistakes and get himself killed like Ned and Robb, because she loves him and the last thing she wants if for him to die as well. She doesnât want to be left alone in the world, without someone that she knows she can FULLY trust. She knows that what she has with Jon, she will never have with any other man, sheâll never be able to blindly trust anyone, the way she can trust Jon, to never hurt her and use her for her claim.
Part of me also thinks she stopped wearing it, because perhaps she feels abandoned, she feels he abandoned her, âYouâre abandoning your people. Youâre abandoning your home. (home = Winterfell and thus Sansa, so basically she did say, âYouâre abandoning me.â)â, and thatâs so heart wrenching. I mean she keeps on wishing heâd hurry up and come home already, you can tell being apart from him is really hard for her, she misses him, she wants her rock to come back home, she wants the man who made her feel strong, safe, happy and loved to come back to her:
âI wish Jon were here.âÂ
âI hope he comes back soon.â
âI remember how happy he was to see me.â
âWhy arenât you happy? What do you want, that you do not have?â - Maybe Sansa didnât quite know the answer to Littlefingerâs question when he asked it, but how does that saying go? You donât realize how much you love/want someone until theyâre gone, until youâre apart from them, and you CANâT STOP THINKING ABOUT THEM.Â
Itâs not a âwhatâ that Sansa doesnât have, that she thinks she canât have, but a whom, itâs a lover, itâs Jon.
Now, back to the costumes again, unlike Sansa, Jon keeps wearing the direwolves breastplate. Why? Because heâs away from Sansa, from home, from Winterfell, whilst Sansa is there in Winterfell, so she is able to get her strenght and her courage from its walls (we all know Winterfell is not just a simple stone castle, itâs special, it has magic):
âShe wondered where this courage had come from, to speak to him so frankly. âFrom Winterfell,â she thought. âI am stronger within the walls of Winterfell.â
But Jon, being away from both of them (Winterfell and Sansa), he has to get his strenght from elsewhere, so he gets it from wearing the direwolves breastplate, direwolves which represent Sansa and him, their love and trust for one another (breastplate which I believe Sansa had made for him speacial, along with her two direwolves that she attached to her collar), he gets his strenght from the cloak that Sansa made for him with her own hands, Jon literally draws his strenght from his home, from SANSA, from the memory of her, I mean cloaks himself in the cloak she made for him, even if heâs really hot in it, because it brings him comfort, itâs as if Sansa has her arms around him, reassuring him and comforting him.Â
Sansa and Jon have so much beautiful foreshadowing and symbolism, oh my heart.
And her hair, I told you Iâd get back to it, notice how she wore it in a similar fashion as when she was disguised as Alayne, after Jon left? How it was pulled back and braided when she escaped Winterfell,
then she started wearing it down with Jon at Castle Black,
then she braided it again when she went to meet Littlefinger,
and she let it loose again at castle black
and then she braided when they went out to rally men for the BOTB,
and then she started wearing it down again after they got Winterfell back (6x10), and she kept wearing it down, up until Jon left.
As soon as he left, her hairstyle changed again, she wore it pulled back again, because itâs pretty obvious that Jon has become her strenght (and Sansa has become Jonâs), she feels stronger and more confident with him (she takes strenght from Winterfell now, but when she had Jon, she took it from him), as Iâve said, he has become her rock (just like sheâs become his), and when he left, he took part of her strenght with him, she didnât feel quite whole anymore, she didnât feel as strong, so the hair department made her wear her hair pulled back again to show us just that.Â
This is a theme they have going fo her, when she feels confident and strong, she wears her hair down and free, when she doesnât she wears it pulled back.
Also, we all know Jon gave Sansa his cloak, and literally CLOAKED her,
but then, he starts to wear the cloak he borrowed to Sansa himself even if shortly, because then he replaces it with the one Sansa made for him (with her own hands, with love):
They both wore that cloak, they LITERALLY shared it. It is one of the sweetest and most intimate things to share clothes. This little detail makes my heart sing everytime I think about it and everytime I watch the soup scene and cloak scene. đ
These past few days Iâve been thinking about something, and I think itâs great way to end this little rambling I went on lolÂ
Jon and Sansa teaming up brought only good things for both Jon and Sansa and House Stark. Sansa gained so much by going to Jon and reuniting with him, she gained safety and unconditional love, someone to lean on, someone with whom she can be herself without the need of wearing any masks, someone she knows will never harm her nor use her, someting she hasnât had for five years or so, since Nedâs execution. And Jon, oh boy, by reuniting with her, teaming up with her, Jon literally got all heâs EVER wanted. He got Sansaâs VALIDATION, APPROVAL, LOVE and TRUST, he became what he always dreamed of becoming [(lord of winterfell and warden of the north (only he actually became a King) even if he knew dreaming it was wrong, because all his siblings would have to be dead for his dream to come true)], KING in the North, he gained the RESPECT and LOVE of the NORTHERN people and lords etc. Jon LITERALLY GOT IT ALL (minus the wife and family bit, which is coming in season 8, after he marries Sansa and getâs all he has lost back.).
Now think about Dandelion and Jon âteaming upâ⊠Where Sansa literally GAVE JON EVERYTHING, Dany TOOK IT ALL AWAY from him.Â
This made me tear up, once the idea came to mind, because itâs just so SAD. Jon probably thinks that, thatâs it, by bending the knee, by giving their home/country, Sansaâs home/country (for which she bled, for which she was raped, tortured and beaten), away to an entitled, power hungry foreign invader (when she WARNED him and BEGGED him not to go), to a southern wannabe Queen, he lost Sansaâs trust, love, validation and acceptance, he lost -HER-.Â
He probably thinks their relationship is broken beyond repair now, that the relationship, the understanding, the trust they built and worked on, the love she gave him, is gone. Bear in mind heâs in love with her/he has feeling for her, so just try to imagine how he must feel (I mean Sansa doesnât hate him, nor resent him, nor is she angry with him, weâve seen that in the scene with Littlefinger where he teases her about a marriage alliance between Dandelion and Jon, but seeing the communication between Jon and Sansa was almost nonexistent (because Jon was smart enought to realize Varys reads his letters/correspondence), he doesnât know that, he doesnât know just how much faith and trust Sansa has in him, just like he doesnât know of her feelings for him).Â
Same thing goes for Sansa, by the way. For all she knows, Jon went to Dragonstone, and sheâs having all sorts of Deja Vuâs to Nedâs stupid mistakes (trusting a southern ruler/an invader and her words) and Robbâs stupid mistakes (falling in love with a âforeign whoreâ) and how they both lost their heads because of them, and more than anything sheâs worried that Jonâs âmistakesâ are going to get them all killed, himself included. But again, due to not corresponding, Sansa doesnât know Jon is playing the game, and playing it smart at that, and that his loyalties donât lie with a squabbling, selfish Queen, but with her, with Arya and Bran and with his people, with the North.
And his people, the Northern lords, he knows they will hate his guts, and that the respect and love they had for him, went out the window, when he gave up the North, his crown/title to her Majesty.
So yeah, all the good things he had, Entitled Tangerine took it away from him.Â
So, Sansa raised Jon up, and Dandelion literally stepped on him and on all the good things that he had. Personally I think Jondelion shippers are pretty much only Dandelion stans/fans, because how could you love Jonâs character and want him to end up with D@ny? Itâs beyond me lol
So yeah nonny, Sansa flowering in a snowflaked dress is Jonsa foreshadowing alright.
Bless your heart for sending in this amazing, and lovely ask to me. I hope my answer was satisfying, and sorry if I went all over the place, but the ideas kept pouring in. đ đÂ
Happy holidays nonny, hope you have an amazing New Year!!