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The Bear (2022)
Season 4, Episode 2: “Soubise” (2025) Director: Christopher Storer and Duccio Fabbri Cinematographer: Andrew Wehde
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Innocent manga, worst husband material ?
Also, feel free to flood my inbox.
The question is, who are the characters I DON'T want to be married to. From greatest to least:
1. Soubise/Gaspard/Jean Baptiste: They're all equally just as bad. And you'll be a miserable wife. They won't skip a day to remind you that you're inferior to them in terms of gender, so that makes you inferior to them OVERALL. The usual of everyday is basically, daily brainwash, make baby, verbal abuse, emotional abuse, (Soubise/Gaspard definitely physical abuse), and you'll spend constant days contemplating your tragic life, and eventually you'd be pushed to a point where you're relying on the hope that committing suicide would be able to free you out of this life no different from a cattle's. If you go to hell for it, well, what's new? It won't compare to being married to them.
2. King Louis XVI: Dry ass marriage, with a dry ass husband. Awkward, weak, odd and childish. The only good side to him is he's the king, and weehee, his riches! He may be a kind, and devoted husband who cherishes his children. But I mean really, does that actually matter in the end? He ruled awfully and immaturely and before you know it, you and him are now being transported to the scaffold. Oh and your son is also being tortured and your daughter developed PTSD. Now I know it's not totally Louis Auguste's fault, the dynasty before him weren't any better either, but still...
3. Jean Louis: Obesity is his only bad side. But surprisingly I'd marry this cheerful lovely lump. He doesn't really suppress you from doing anything, (not that he can, poor man can't even get out of his bed). He also doesn't expect nor force you to follow any of your wife obligations. Just keep him fed, and you'll have a decent marriage. Though he is a greedy little glutton, Jean Louis isn't a lecher. He's sweet, devoted, and a good father. I love that he doesn't intervene in anything, he stays out of your way and you can almost continue on with your life as if you aren't married to anyone at all.
4. Charles Henri: He's a tender, loving husband who'd worship the ground you walk on. Yes, he had mistresses in the past before marrying you. Though now his affections are reserved for you and you only. Your marriage is healthy and strong. On the other hand, you can't really do much as the mother of his children. Like Jeanne, whether you agree or disagree on how your husband disciplines your children, tradition is tradition. The least you can do for your children is to offer them comfort after the end of their torture sessions with their father. He'll harden your sons into ideal executioners. And though it makes you proud, nothing will ever erase the mother's guilt of being unable to prevent your sons from suffering another wretched fate.
5. Alain: Definitely the best of them. You'd have a saint for a husband. He is the perfect epitome of paradise. It's heaven as long as he's by your side. Alain is compassionate and pure, overly so. I hope you don't mind sharing his love. Because his heart belongs to the whole world and so sadly, you won't be his priority. I assume he's the type to be absent a lot in your marriage, because he's always travelling and doing charity work. It doesn't mean he loves you any less, he writes to you often as he can.
DEUX PONTS SUR LA CHARENTE.
Soubise.
EXPOSITION | Jeanne d'Arc, le premier portrait ➽ https://tinyurl.com/Exposition-JeannedArc En trois mois à peine, de la levée du siège d'Orléans (8 mai 1429) au sacre de Charles VII à Reims (16 juillet 1429), Jeanne d'Arc a renversé le cours de la guerre de Cent Ans. Les représentations qu'on a d'elle sont toutes imaginaires. Une seule est contemporaine de son épopée
"Archives Nationales", Hôtel de Soubise, Le Marais, Paris, août 2021.
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Decor in the #HôteldeSoubise built for the Prince and Princess de #Soubise. In 1700, The prince hired #architect Pierre-Alexis Delamair to remodel the existing #house completely. Works started in 1704. Since the time if Napoleon the residence became the property of the State. Today it contains the Musée de l'Histoire de #France (Museum of French #History) and a part of the French National Archives, #Paris (at Musée des Archives nationales)
Do you have any post-whipping "after-care" headcanons for Innocent characters ?
Hum, I can only imagine.... If the task is handed to them, they'd whip their assigned convicts.
For instance, Charles Henri and Jean Baptiste are a bit on the merciful side only if they're required to keep their victim alive a bit longer. They'd probably offer some kind of drug supplied from their household to restore the victim's strength a bit, or maybe even painkillers making sure they last till the end, post-whipping.
The sadists like Soubise and Marie, 'aftercare' doesn't exist in their vocabulary. There would be breaks in between the sessions before their bloodlust fires up again and back to more whipping until they're satiated. I don't know if their victims can ever survive their whipping. Victims are luckily dismissed if they ever did manage to stay alive. Soubise and Marie couldn't care less if you're missing chunks of flesh or writhing in agony in the end. Just pull yourself together and get the hell out of their sight before they began changing their mind. It won't be long till you're suffering with infections.
Um...Historically, minors under the age of 15-14, sometimes older but that was rare, were given "fouet sous la custode". (Secret whipping). How do you think Soubise or Anne-Marthe would do it, given with the order that was usually to give the kid back to their parents, in somewhat okay condition (bleeding back, legs or buttocks are a-okay, but anything more severe could lead to some judicial trouble). Also, these kids were comparitively lucky they weren't suffering the more adult punishments. Also, it's implied in Innocent that Soubise was the one who tortured Jean de Chartois.
In general, how do you think Soubise is with kids he's supposed to "put to the path of truth." Because, torturing kids was really not in the values of the common folks, like, they were riots about kids being kidnapped to be mistreated and the judges who had cases of 14 year olds condemned to the question have this penalty commuted to something else, so for Soubise it would be a hot potatoe that could get him at the end of a prison riot against him and the judges.
I'm certain that Soubise would definitely get a "talk" from his superiors for not following that law.
