#silenstep

Without wanting to diminish that sensation, do you count towards the minyan as a gentile?

silentstep

er. Sam I definitely do not want to be discouraging at all, but to be counted in a minyan one must in fact be an adult Jew (some congregations will only count men, too). it's generally considered good manners to let them know that you're not Jewish so they know they can't count you.

Yeah, that occurred to me belatedly, which is my bad, after the prayer had already begun. If I’d known he was like...going for a minyan I would have said something ahead of time, but it was the first service where it was even mentioned -- he was just like “GREAT. GOT TEN” and dove in. 

a little scene between silentstar and her other dad zario who pretty much pulled a pinestar from the canon wc books, but instead came back later on in the story

silentstar welcomed him into the clan but not into her heart, unable to forgive him as she blames everythings thats happened all on zario, having had choosen to leave his mate and kit alone in the wild, hagioh ending up killed and silentstar forced to live in the clan that have tormented her all her life. zario is indifferent as he knows every decision was made by haigoh and silentstar themselves, so they often argue and have a rocky relationship