so done with the ship wars in general because i just saw a mike wheeler edit on tiktok and it was BEAUTIFUL and ANGSTY and was about how he's a beautifully complex character and the comments were just. filled with "people see this and still want byler/mileven" PLEASE CAN WE APPRECIATE CHARACTERS ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT PUTTING THEM INTO SHIPS
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hey! Im curious about your opinion about sasuke’s ships
Hi! Sorry it took me a while to get to this.
I like SNS well enough when it’s written about/analyzed by people who I think have a good grasp of the characters and the story’s themes—I like it most in one of two contexts: an alternate ending where Naruto develops a lot as a character and comes to understand Sasuke’s POV in a genuine way and oppose the village himself (and also processes his own trauma and concludes that becoming the hokage and seeking out a high status within the village is not what he ultimately wants/needs) or a version of the canon ending that is framed as very tragic and is much more about messy emotions and Naruto’s own self-delusion paired with Sasuke’s weariness and isolation leading him to surrender rather than a genuine ideological victory on Naruto’s part.
That being said though, most SNS content feels quite OOC to me and/or like a very reductive reading of Sasuke’s character that doesn’t do justice to the complexity and validity of his feelings and motives. This, paired with the fact that I find Naruto’s character fairly irritating later on in Shippuden because of how static he becomes as a character, how loyal he remains to the village despite everything, and how preachy about it he is, makes it so I have pretty mixed feelings about the ship as a whole. I also feel like some arguments in favor of the ship get a bit overly defensive in response to these criticisms rather than just accepting them as flaws/points to contend with in analysis and fan content.
I think Sasusaku is pretty obviously very one-sided in canon and the fact that they end up together without any kind of chemistry or indication of mutual interest or even meaningful bonding later on is kind of laughable, but it’s also such low-hanging fruit in terms of shipping discourse to criticize Sasusaku that it ends up feeling like a really worn out topic of conversation to me when I think there’s much more interesting stuff to analyze and discuss. I get that there’s lots of Sasusaku content out there that does a disservice to Sasuke’s character, but I find the amount of anti-Sasusaku posts in pro-Sasuke discourse kind of exhausting at this point.
I think Sasuke/team Taka ships (either all together or one-on-one, although I’m not a huge fan of Sasuke/Karin individually personally) are cool and underrated and a nice chance to explore dynamics that had a lot of potential in the show but didn’t get much in-depth exploration. All that being said though, I’m not personally very invested in shipping discourse about Sasuke, nor in particular ships themselves. I am more interested in good fan content and analysis about Sasuke that does his character justice, whether or not there are ships involved.
I’m also not really a fan of the centrality of ships in discussions of Sasuke’s character, since I think he is a very compelling character on his own and I think it leads to a lot of central aspects of his character arc getting overshadowed and under-discussed. When it comes to shipping content/discourse I care much more about whether or not it leads to interesting and insightful representations/analysis of the characters involved than whether the ship is “good” or “bad” based on arguments that have been rehashed many times—I feel like trying to argue for or against a particular pairing is a much less interesting point of analysis than focusing on the relationship between the characters themselves and how it relates to their character arcs and having insights/commentary and storytelling based on that, whether or not it involves a sexual/romantic component.
