#respawners

"void state concept!" "void state mindset" "void state challenge" "why you're not entering the void-"

literally just now, i only counted up to 100, counted back down from 100, and then counted up AGAIN only this time i affirmed between every 20 counts and almost got into the void state in 25 minutes, while keeping myself calm and just focusing on counting/affirming whenever i felt myself unconsciously get pressured to tap into it. i just got bored and opened my eyes, but i was nearly to that point.

it's literally a meditative state, just find a way to focus and relax.

a lot of the times, i got into the void state either by being woken up suddenly and getting into it immediately OR when i was relaxing and not fixating too hard on my reasons to get into it, i was just focused on the moment and getting to it first.

i said it in my rant post but when you want to meditate for the void state, you focus on getting to the void state first and then when you're in it, you use it for your intended purpose. a lot of you use the void state out of desperation [reasonably so, i'm not shaming you] and then you pressure yourself to enter it to get what you want. and then you stress when it doesn't work --- ofc that's gonna stress you our and distract you from meditating, or relaxing your mind, or getting comfortable, or anything. i just try to calm myself down and assure myself i'll have what i need when i enter it, and then focus on my meditating. then i enter it that way. or get close.

If they believe MANY of the following, then I suggest unfollowing! Misinformation can impede on many shifters’ journeys because the goal of misinformation is to direct them away from their goals. We get daily posts from baby shifters who come worried with some new piece of misinformation and felt so discouraged from it that they didn’t want to shift.

Common Misinformation:

You disappear when you shift.

You belong to a reality/ you have to come back.

Respawning is su!c!de.

You can get kicked out of your DR.

Shifting is lucid dreaming/hallucination.

You need to take breaks.

You can’t script relationships because that is forcing.

You have to script yourself to be the same (can’t change your body type or size or eye colour, etc).

Shifting is witchcraft.

Your clone is evil.

You can’t shift permanently.

You can’t have big time differences (eg, 1 second Old Reality equals 20 years Desired Reality).

You can only stay for a small amount of time in your DR and work up to longer stays.

You randomly pop up when you shift (false, unless you script it in)

You can have seizures or coma from shifting.

Shifting drains your energy.

Shifting to a WR is easier (it really isn’t).

You need a method/subliminals/spells/meditations to shift.

You don’t belong in your DR.

ৎ୭ ⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ๑ ⠀⠀the void state vs what you think it is ; a rant !! ⠀

๑ ⠀DISCLAIMER this is not targeted, nor is it meant to be shade or an attack on any creators here or on other platforms. i don't intend for this to cause drama. i'm allowed to rant an express my feelings.

IGNORE TYPOS / no i'm not open for arguments but if you want to share your opinion, go ahead.

𝒜fter distancing myself ♡ from the loa and voidblr communities, i've come to realise you lot REALLLYYY are overcomplicating the void state. with all due respect. before i start, i'm not presenting myself as all-knowing. even i'm oblivious and gullible despite the four years i've been in all the non-mundane communities i'm part of. i'm still learning like everyone else. so i'm not putting anyone down with this post.

anyways. it seems the association with the void state as a means of manifesting instantly warped people's understanding of it. or more-so you focus too heavily on the benefits for manifesting and unconsciously narrow your understanding of it to just that. the void state is a meditative state, it's achieved because you're so deeply relaxed from meditation that you, essentially, directly embrace the feeling of being pure consciousness (poorly worded*). meditation doesn't need a "concept"/mindset, meditation doesn't need loa to be achieved, meditation doesn't need week-long challenges using discipline and affirmations. but you guys still carry on with this because by tying it so specifically to manifesting instantly, you idealise it as a method of manifestation. you don't SEE it tapping into it as deep meditation, you see it as a powerful cheat code that you can harness to do whatever you want with reality and get all your desires. you see it as an external power or source of it.

that's why i hate the idea of a void state concept. what are you affirming for? the void state? the thing you get into when you meditate? like meditation??? that thing where you relax and do breathing exercises and just focus on your mind...??? that's what you're affirming to be a master of?? 😭😭

and you're all coming out every month with some "THIS IS THE KEY" post or challenge or rewording of previously-followed knowledge like the next prophet promising people it'll make them enter the void and beating around the bush and doing everything but simplifying the void state in its true form </3??!?!? help no that's not- no???

there's no "void state master" because that implies it's a skill you need to achieve, or doesn't properly identify it as a meditative state. it doesn't imply that it's related to your mind. everyone can meditate, the problem with you not entering the void state isn't because of your mindset. it's the fact you never let yourself mentally relax to be able to REACH that point of meditation. there's also no "accepting you're god and the creator", that's specifically with manifesting. with the void state, first you meditate until you relax so much you tap into it and THEN you use it for your intended purpose. until you're in the void, manifesting is a background thought. they're not connected to each other.

once you detach the idea of manifestation from the void state, and identify it as a meditative state / achievable by relaxing, then it stops feeling so complicated and unachievable. because yes it can help you manifest instantly, but the void state doesn't have power nor is it even a method, meditation is all about the mind/mindfulness; YOUR mind, as the one meditating. it's the same thing for manifesting. you manifest by being that version of yourself who either HAS or WILL have. the only problems you face are being overwhelmed by resistance and doubts, or clinging too much to lacking.

you wonder why the void state works with manifesting? that's why. because you're so suggestible when you're relaxed that resistance doesn't become a problem or you don't bother to care about your doubts if they come. it's also why other things like lucid dreaming, SATS, the hypnagogic state and even saturation work for manifesting. it's also why people manifest unconsciously after repeatedly mentioning or thinking once about what they want. you're giving too much power to the void state so it seems like something above you that can give you what you want, when it's just you meditating deeply enough which ALLOWS you to be more suggestible because you're just your mind there. and yes i'm going to keep saying it's a meditative state in this post. verbatim. no rewording. because that's what it is and i WILL drill it into your desperate ass minds. and notice how all the states (not saturation obvi because it's not a state) i mentioned are all STILL connected to your brain or mind? it doesn't matter what state of mind or consciousness you're in or using, your manifesting and ability to manifest come from YOUR MIND and YOUR energy/intentions. that's all your effort and nothing else's.

and i've come to realise this more myself after self-reflection. i'm a shifter, i'm also a manifestor (although from a shifter's pov they are the same). i noticed there's a difference in how i treat the void state with manifesting vs shifting; i'm more stressed when i use it for manifesting ("if i enter the void i can have everything i want, it's easier for me, but i'm so stressed about xyz xyz what if i don't get into it, it's not working, what am i doing wrong, [doubt doubt doubt doubt negativity here]."//because of my unhealthy circumstances and pent-up feelings towards it and needing to have better with manifesting)---- as opposed to shifting ("i enter the void by meditating, then i'll shift when i'm in it. it's taking a bit to relax, i think i'm forcing it so let me just actually relax. okay now i'm feeling myself detach from my body.") even though i understand the void state to simply be relaxing. i still unconsciously treated it differently because i saw it as something that would give me what i wanted rather than a meditative state that gave ME a boost to more easily GIVE MYSELF what i want. when i used it to shift, i'd just focus on the void itself which i would achieve by relaxing and meditating. then when i would get to the void, i'd focus on shifting now that i'm already in it. because again, the void state is you being aware/embracing that you're only consciousness because you're so deeply meditated. it makes you more suggestible to affirmations which allows for that "instant shift" to have all your desires from my observations- but nothing more. all that manifesting you did in that state came from your mind, not the void state.

it's similar with the shifting community. but i haven't the energy to rant about that much. i feel the use of "master ____" in spiritual / non mundane communities causes such an unnecessary idealisation and reliance on other people / a hierarchy in the community because it's always ever used with such basic abilities everybody has and can use.

ৎ୭ ⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ๑ ⠀⠀back with my shifting rants </3!!

๑ ⠀DISCLAIMER this is not targeted, nor is it meant to be shade or an attack on any creators here or on other platforms. i don't intend for this to cause drama. i'm allowed to rant an express my feelings.

IGNORE TYPOS / no i'm not open for arguments but if you want to share your opinion, go ahead. ignore typos !!

the year is 2025, shifting became popular in 2020. AND STILL. TO THIS DAY. you guys can NOT get over this obsession with the subconscious. it's not some outer power hosted in your body, it's not some great genie you have to be overspecific with your wishes before they give you the wrong thing- it's literally just another part of your mind??

your subconscious doesn't...stop you from shifting, it doesn't make you shift i'd say? as in, yes it might have influence in helping you shfit but it's not something that decides if you shift or not. it's NOT some sentient entity attached to your mind that decides what you can and can't do with your abilities, it's literally a PART OF YOU. it is YOU.

you're your awareness, inhabiting a consciousness and ego, which are hosted in your body. that's the best way i can explain things. when you go to shift, there's no "subconscious getting used to xyz frequency and resisting unfamiliar frequencies so you don't shift"?? it's not going to take it as some foreign threat that you shouldn't go to even if "consciously, you don't see it as a threat". that's- no???? people who've shifted before DO shift back to their realities with ease but it's not some thing about whether or not their subconscious is okay with them shifting --- it's because they know what they can do to fully shift to their drs and use that repeatedly because now they know how to shift for themselves. the subconscious plays NO influence in whether or not they're allowed to go somewhere.

i've shifted before, albeit breifly---i haven't been very focused on shifting in the last few months due to my focus on this reality. but every shift i had was by using what i realised worked for me, which was using my intentions and deciding to shift! wow, so crazy, and my subconscious genuinely couldn't give a fuck where i went! because it doesn't have that power over you! oh my god!!!! /sar

like.. genuinely, if you stop idolising people and relying on them and SIMPLIFY shifting for yourself and your own understanding. then it gets easier for you, it's so simple. my first ever shift wasn't even using information i learned. it was a moment of frustration and desperation because not shifting was wearing me down -- this would be 3-6 months after i first discovered shifting, for reference -- and i just gave up mid-attempt, got mad and rolled over and DECIDED i'd shift. not with calm intention but just me being annoyed and just wanting it to happen. and it did, my surroundings changed immediately and i felt my head turn to the side when i was very much laying on my back with my head up. i just got up because i didn't expect it to happen and got excited to tell my ex-friend (ex because we lost contact).

i've had my surroundings shift around me instantly, i've briefly shifted to parallel realities to this one (where i read some fanfiction and went back to sleep but that's not the point), i've briefly gotten to my wr only to shift back after. and if i go to shift right now, i know it'll work because in the time i've strayed from shifting i also learnt a lot more.

i had an acquaintance who shifted repeatedly using the julia method after THAT was what they found helped them shift. i know someone who uses sleep paralysis and shifts. i literally also have my dr people help me shift and that works. and this isn't to imply there's only one singular method that works for people---people can shift with a variety of methods. i've almost shifted using guided meditations and i think lucid dreaming, but my point simply lies in the fact these people actually understand how to shift and PUT THAT TO USE which makes them shift even more times. it's not their subconscious "needing to get used to the frequency of their desired realities", by that logic you need to get used to EVERY single new desired reality you shift to. and as someone with multiple desired realities, namely 40+, that would be a long and annoying process.

yes i do believe tuning into your surroundings, your dr self as a person, etc. will help to anchor you to your desired reality, of course it will. you're aligning with your desired reality and shifting your awareness there, that connection helps a lot. but saying that your subconscious needs to get used to things is genuinely such an embarrassing stretch that reminds me of when people said you needed to use specific wording in your script and subliminals because "your subconscious will take it the wrong way and you'll end up in a bad dr/with bad results".

i hope you know, as much as you idolise the subconscious for its suggestibility, it's still a part of you. YOUR intentions and intepretations of wording is what it will reflect.

and i know my experiences will be disregarded because "oh but chii, you haven't shifted to your drs for very long!!" but the point is i at least GOT to my drs. i just haven't been interested in shifting lately, as much as i've been meaning to go back to it over manifesting, so of course i have yet to have "full" shifts by the community's standards.

shifting is a very simple process, literally meditate or intend or detach or do whatever helps you. from a shifter's pov, manifesting and shifting are the same thing - if manifesting is simple, so is shifting. you lot just need to stop overcomplicating it and finding "reason/logic" in things more than you do actually shift. because then you overcomplicate it for yourself and make it harder.

this annoyed me so much it somehow also motivated me to shift ?? help.

chii out yes ok!! (´ｰ∀ｰ`)

I don't know, my current plan is to be a permashifter, and sca respawn when my parents naturally pass of old age but I lowkey want to be a respawner, after all you don't have to die to respawn and can leave a "clone" which is you.

Sorry for the long yap, I was just wondering if I should be a pernashifter ( I mean it's the best and "safest" option) or be a respawner

the thing is, the choice between permashifting and respawning is, "do i still want access to this exact timeline so i can return if i ever feel the need, or do i want to cut my soul off from it entirely?"

if you're wanting to deathless respawn to make up for your parents here then, honestly, the only difference between that and permashifting is whether you can return. you can always have your parents in another reality, or in your home reality, if they seem to mean that much to you.

that said usually things like that can be an unnecessary "obstacle", if you just want your parents and nothing more from this reality---there's also always the option of scripting not to remember or miss them or this reality. and then there's also (again), the option of permashifting, then respawning + scripting you forget this timeline on a whole. there's a lot more ways to go about this but it's to give you an idea.

you're out of this reality either way, i can't tell you which is better for what especially as i don't know your exact circumstances. i personally made up for my dilemma like that by having a parallel reality to reexperience/keep what i liked from this reality but didn't want to fit into any of my current realities, but continuing with the choice to death respawn and erase my existence, for example.

i know this isn't much help but it was just to hopefully give a clearer image because ultimately, that's for you to consider and weigh the options for since you'll always know yourself better than some outside source. and also only you can know how to manage your needs and feelings with the situation.