#reader discussion

I'm curious how the writers I follow feel about dub/non-con. Are we embracing our darkness or still avoiding the subject? There's no judgement on my end. I just notice certain themes in fics particularly as it relates to bdsm that feels like dub-con yet no one wants to call it that outright.

What are some great non-canon Critical Role ships? Now, when I say non-canon, I don’t just mean ships that weren’t endgame. Nor do I just mean ships that definitely had romantic or possible romantic feelings/attractions/leanings but never got together. I don’t want any of those. I want to hear about ships you guys love that have no canon support whatsoever. No canon feelings of romance between the characters at any point. 

What two characters from Critical Role, from either campaign (hell, if you have a ship with a character from one campaign and a character from the other, I am dying to hear about it), that have nothing even close to being canon about their relationship, do you ship? Which characters never had anything romantic or potentially romantic about their relationship do you think would work together romantically? Which characters that never even met do you think would be great as a ship? Which ships are so non-canon that you’re in shipping hell because of it?

And tell me why! Let me know what it is about these characters, their backstories, their interactions, their personalities, any of it, what is it that makes you love them, that makes  you think they would tell an interesting story together? Also, let me know if this is a pairing that you and you alone, or maybe you and only like, 3 other people ship, or if it’s something that actually has a following, even if it’s a small one. 

It’s very, very relevant. When creators are crafting their characters and those characters’ personalities, behaviors, flaws, and the backstory that all of those things comes from, they’re not just grabbing ideas about how their characters act and where those behavior come from. They’re basing everything on what they’ve observed of human behavior, both in themselves and in others. Yes, it’s true, in most cases they’re probably not thinking about the motivations and behaviors of their characters in terms of the neurology and physiology happening, but they are thinking about the human behavior that they’ve observed, that they know, and some of which they innately understand as being results of certain kinds of events, experiences, relationships, traumas, etc. 

So it’s relevant in the specific understanding that the personalities, behaviors, and overall characterizations they’ve created are accurate as supported by science. I’m not trying to slam anyone else’s meta or anything like that, but I like to be as complete in my analysis as I can, and for me that means going as far as I can in exploring and examining the things in question. And sometimes that means going all the way into the science of why the things that are happening are happening. In some areas that might not be as relevant, considering this is a fantasy world where science at times might not necessarily apply. But when it comes to things like this, it is relevant and it does apply. 

For 2 it’s Beau/Kara, Twiggy/Nott, and Marion/Yussa. I’ll give reasons later in morning when I’m more awake.

I’m assuming these are from the same person because they came within seconds of each other. if I’m wrong, let me know and I’ll fix it.

THIS is what I’m talking about when I said ships that were COMPLETELY and TOTALLY not canon. These are great.

I find every single one of these interesting. The only ones I’d really heard before were Tary/Gilmore and Cassandra/Kynan, both of which I would be totally onboard with. I think I have seen Percy/Ripley kind of talked about here and there, and I am into dark ships. I do find the whole thing fascinating, how there’s some majorly deep trauma there on Percy’s part when it comes to her, and how that shows a lot, but how he also often can end up acting like a petulant kid who’s mad that one of the other kids is good at the same thing he is.

All the others I don’t think I’ve heard of. Of those, I’m VERY drawn to the idea of Kashaw/Gilmore, Pike/Kima, and Marion/Yussa. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to ship Nott with anyone else now that we’ve met her husband and seen how great they are together and how much they love each other. I don’t really remember Kara all that much other than that she worked for the Gentleman and worked with the rebellion in Zadash. I’m sure Beau flirted with her at some point, though. 

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