The vegans are mad at me again, so I'm just gonna say...
We need meat, and you can't change my mind.
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The vegans are mad at me again, so I'm just gonna say...
We need meat, and you can't change my mind.

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There is no other group on here that will respond faster to me than vegans, and I find it absolutely hilarious.
Vegan: *does their best to reduce unnecessary harm, respect all life, and restore individual value to all animals, not just humans
Carnist: Oh my god, vegans act so superior! They need to check their elitism!
Meanwhile:
Carnist: *refuses to see animals as individuals on the basis that they aren’t human Carnist: *refuses to treat animals with proper respect and care because they aren’t human
Carnist: *refuses to see animals as worthy of anything except a status of commodity and use to humans because it benefits their own personal interest to do so
Carnist: *thinks it’s morally okay to exploit, abuse, and take someone else’s life without absolute necessity because it benefits their own personal interest
Important questions
How is it still controversial to call out someone who needlessly exploits, abuses, and kills other animals as an asshole and a bad person? How can someone who does that be a good person, or worth of respect?
Seriously, how is it not seen as completely fucked to do that to someone else when there is no need for it?