#pdina

TM: Her stories about having to climb in and out of her car door on the other side and slide open, but she never had that problem. And the other thing is like she she wasn't going to the studios every other day and having guards say," Break a leg." They just check you check and see if you're allowed to get on the studio lot.

TM: I'm trying to figure out when all the lying began, and it really started after Harry. I think she told Harry a a sad story that she was a poor girl. It''s not a true story, right? She never had to work in college. She didn't didn't need pocket money, she had that. Her college was paid for um, as a matter of fact, tuition always comes with room and board as well.

PD: How do you feel that she never gave you credit for paying for her college, when she gave that speech to the young girls about working hard and paying for it herself?

TM: That just goes on the list. There's so many lies about this, i mean she she she retells the story about writing letters right? (Dish soap) Initially i told her to write letters, no answers but she told me she later told that story to the UN, and then she changed it and dropped my name off. At first she said my dad told me to, and at the end of her speech, she said, "There should be more men like my dad." But when she tells the story now it's like, "I decided to write letters," and she never mentions me. I'm not, i'm not attacking her; i just don't understand it.

PD: Now there was also a story about when Meghan was in college, they said she glued some girl's eyelids together. Is that true?

TM: That one, that one, I don't know anything about that. I don't know where that came from. She was in the sorority there, i know that. Matter of fact, she wanted to have a Sopranos party. I bought her a song from a store in Los Angeles so that she could. "I have a surprise for you," so that sort of gives you the dates of when when she was there. (Interesting that the interviewer did NOT mention the sorority in her question, but when Thomas thinks about the allegation that Meghan used glue on another girl's eyes, he immediately says "the sorority." Hmm...)

TM: (About her lies on Oprah) Definitely the archbishop, i'm sure, was very upset. It's almost like a psycho problem in a way.

PD: That's what it looks like. It looks like, psychologically does she not understand what she's doing? Does Harry understand what he's doing?

TM: i mean, well Harry. Harry's a puppy. He'll go anywhere he's told to go. i i don't think he's um, i i i just think he's a follower, you know. I think she mothered him and that's what he needed. He wanted the mother, he got one.

PDL What about her ex-husband, Trevor? What do you know about Trevor?

TM: Very sweet man, yeah, a very kind man. I will tell you that i feel he was, uh, he was uh shocked at what happened, how it happened. They were they were apart because she was working in Canada all the time, and not coming back on weekends as much as he wanted her to, um and then then she just sent him the wedding ring back through the mail. Trevor called me, and I was in shock for i guess a week or longer.

PD: Wow so he was really blindsided by the divorce. Who came to her wedding her first wedding?

TM: Everybody. Uh the entire cast of Suits. i was there but a lot of people couldn't come because it cost money to fly to Jamaica so yeah, Samantha wanted to come, but she couldn't because she well she couldn't because she couldn't afford to, also wheelchairs don't do too well in the sand so yeah it would have been difficult for her. Tom Jr, my son wasn't invited, i don't think and I hadn't planned on going.

PD: So she had a relationship with Samantha obviously or what kind of relationship was it?

TM: Oh god i don't know. Part of the problem she has with me is that she wanted me to make my son, my oldest son, my son Tom and baby Samantha - Meghan demanded that I stop talking to them and make them stop talking about her. It started when Harry popped into the picture, because there were reporters all over all of us, all the time yeah for the first year. I mean, i couldn't go anywhere without being seen or being photographed, asked questions. And they (Tom Jr. and Samantha) were having the same problem so they were answering back more than i was but they were answering back anot kindly at the time.

TM: So, uh, Meghan got really mad at me because I couldn't make them be quiet.

PD: So how does that work, Thomas? What was her tone? Did she get upset with you, or say "I'll never speak to you again if you don't stop?"

TM: Yeah, something like that. She said "I'll never help you again, I won't help you unless you make them stop." That was pretty much it um, you know, I i kept trying to explain to her that when when you're dealing with 50 year old children, they're telling YOU what to do.

PD: So you look at someone like Harry you know and he looks he's a redhead. Is is he the typical typical kind of guy that Meghan would date growing up? I mean, is he her type?

TM: Her first boyfriend was a Mexican kid, a basketball player, nice kid. And uh her first boyfriend at Northwestern was a basketball player, nice kid. And then after that guess her junior year, she started dating an Argentine guy, so it's weird for her to be with the redheaded guy. (Embassy guy, alleggedly married?)

TM: Up and until she got like alpha, Suits, everything came from me. I'm not bragging. I'm just saying that everything came from me. For getting a union card, I paid for her apartments so she got work, I paid for everything. And that's not a matter of money, it's a matter of our relationship. Our relationship was very tight.