#olddrama

So, I am here just thinking about the past as I do when I am editing... and to be frank I still find myself growing salty about the shit that has happened to me in the past. I mean I am pretty much passed the most recent bit of drama with that Lady of Deers girl, I got a chance to talk with her and actually sort things out. I am kinda glad I did because we got the strike removed and hopefully one person is informed on ‘fair use’

No what I am salty about is the shit that happened even longer ago with the artist @arlymone I have sat silent on the issue for awhile as at the time I considered myself good friends with the person and even though a strike was issued against my channel over artwork I paid for... I Still felt as though the other person was in no mental condition to be put under a public spot light. However I feel now that things have died down I can disclose some of my personal feelings under the guise of venting, Closure, and transparency. Keep in mind that Anything stated here will be coming from my perspective! Everything will be from the lenses that I see and understand that I am biased as hell because well as stated before I am salty about this whole thing.

As you guys know in my original video, I stated why my video was late and that it was due to 2 copyright strikes from the Artist @arlymone at the time I did not give a name but considering I credited her for the artwork she gave me, and the artwork I paid for people caught on fairly quickly who the person was. To be honest I should of gave out her name simply to protect anyone else who may want to pay her for artwork as I would not put it past her to copyright someone else for stupid reasons. In speaking of the reasons that I was given, it was ‘I Did it because my friends told me too, I remove the strike because you told me too’ which as a person who might buy her art might want to know that all it takes for someone to fuck you over is the opinion of a friend! 

None the less there where more behind the scenes that went into this, and at the time I ignored it simply because I did not want to hurt my reputation in the community any more than it already has been, however considering the Big Three outside of @creepsmcpasta is ignoring me... I Don’t have anyone to try and impress, hence my opinion and unfiltered feelings can actually come out. 

There where two people who apparently going with this, One was her boyfriend and I actually talked to him properly. He stated that he was supporting her, and had no reason to doubt her when she stated someone was stealing money from her and stealing art work. I Don’t know who her boy friend is to this day but I doubt he was a content creator with in this community and as such I won’t name him. The other person was @gentlemanraven Or as allot of you know him as CreepyPasta Raven. When I awoke that day to find my channel had twenty five videos removed, even some videos not containing her artwork the first person I went to ask was Raven, as at the time I respected him as one of the pillars in the Creepypasta community. He may not of been popular but he was a old member there and just a fucking fun person to come to if ya needed to talk.  However when I came to him that day something odd came out, The line “This is your issue, and I had nothing to do with it and don’t want to be apart of it” Came out of that skype text box. I can’t give you the exact quote but it basically was a short line of text that stone walled me from further communication.

At the time I respected that, I am not going to force someone into my Drama! That would be a DICK thing to do but none the less I went down the line to figure out who the hell was involved with this because if I had a issue with someone I wanted it to be out in the open so we could fix everything, so I could step up to the mic and state “YO THIS SHITS FUCKED UP But I discussed it with the other content creators and sorted it out and ITs all fixed now” But instead something different came out. Raven after stating that he wanted nothing to do with it, instantly removed me from skype... which I am not going to lie hurt a little bit. I then talked with @arlymone​ I won’t lie, I was overly aggressive I demanded she remove my strikes and to retract the claims especially on the videos that did not contain her art work and further more on the artwork that I paid for. I was Rude, Crass and to be honest I had every right to be! My channel almost got three STRIKES and you know what would of happen then? The one fucking thing I actually had done with my life would of been removed. I am honest with out my youtube I am like... Nothing and I don’t think I could logically continue my life with out it. So yeah my channel was almost taken off of youtube over artwork I paid for and or was gifted to me.

I pressed @arlymone​ for information, Who told her to do this because at the time I had so much damn respect for her that when she came to me claiming she was manipulated by someone to copyright strike my channel I WAS DAMN INCLINED To believe her, Fuck me for having friends right? But yeah she gave me her boyfriends name, and guess who else? @creepyraven =-= Yeah So I hopped on tumblr and started messaging him.

I no longer have my message, I might have it somewhere but I don’t know how to find sent messages from over a year ago. But the Jist of it was this, I stated in an aggressive manner to raven 

“Why did you tell her to copyright my channel?! WHY You realize that I might need to take legal action and allot of the videos did not have her fucking artwork in it?! You realize how bull shit this is, because instead of uploading a video like a creepypasta today I am now dealing with copyright BULLSHIT, You realize I now have to make a video explaining what the fucks going on and if you don’t Fucking respond to me You realize I am going to have to state what I see and what I see is you manipulating someone to attack me” 

Not going to lie I sounded like an aggressive prick, but here is the response I got back. 

“ because you agreed to pay her some sort of money, you did not pay fully, am I right? the best course of action would be to copyright claim the videos for the time being. now then I gave you your answer. But I am going to say this, if you so much as ever make arly feel like shit, like she’s worthless again. you and me are going to have some major problems. and I will toss away everything I’ve worked towards to protect my friends. as for the little threat you made towards me about your quote video. threats don’t work on me.” http://prntscr.com/96vhzz <- a screen cap to prove I am not bull shiting

He seemed to get pissy at me for contacting someone I considered a friend about why she was attacking my Pride, My Joy, My life. He got pissy at me because I made someone feel like shit for doing a shitty thing, He got pissy at me and threatened to ‘throw everything away’ in order to enact some sort of what I assumed to be a PHYSICAL attack over someone who was willing to attack videos she had no stake in. When I wrote the bit about the video, I was not trying to make it come across like a threat although I can see how it would of come across as such, The intention was to let him know I full intended to disclose everything that happened, which alas I did not do even to this day.

I further went on to state “Yelling at someone to copyright me seems hardly fair, and fuck you, You realize if this goes on much longer I have every fucking legal right to sue for Perjury and try to make back some of the losses because she Falsely claimed content in my video, and that even if the claim that I DID NOT PAY HER PROPERLY That It was not grounds for copyright it would of been a workers dispute that had nothing to do with the fucking video and this is nothing but a bully tactic! I paid for the artwork meaning that I have the legal rights to the commercial use of said product she has no claim to that artwork when it comes to my video. ALSO You realize that youtube is my only source of Income right? That I could be doing more than buying fucking burgers with the money and that I might actually have fucking bills to pay right?” 

He went on to state

“ you’re gonna stop talking to me know, you do not know how the legal system works. i did not yell at arly. I encouraged her to do something because I was told one thing. arly could not have gone to jail as you put it for claiming copyright on something she created. and if youtube is the only way you have to make money. get a fucking job “   http://prntscr.com/96vlot

Honestly At this point I was fucking hurt, and thats where this ‘salt’ is honestly coming from, that Raven does not understand some people treat youtube as there job especially when they make enough money to treat it as one, and that some people live in areas like detroit where finding a job is fucking damn near impossible. 

I then went onto go back to my original narrative which I now believe to be wrong, As stated up there I was honestly believing that @Arlymone was manipulated to take down my videos! And that there was someone behind her forcing her to do so! At least on a emotional level. I went on to accuse raven! I honestly accused raven of forcing her to do this! Although from what I have been told raven can get into moods with people that I will get into later. BUT just understand I was honestly in the wrong for accusing a mentally unstable person into copyrighting me. 

His response to that was 

“first off what i told arly was to do it if it felt like the right thing to do, second i have never told arly that if she didnt copyright claim your videos i wasnt gonna be her friend, again another thing is i didnt tell arly to copyright claim videos that didnt have her content in them. i dont order arly around she asks for help i give her suggestions and tell her to do what she feels is right. and its funny you talk about manipulating a girl you almost had her paying you and wanting her to kill herself so don’t talk to me about being manipulative you waste of human dna” http://prntscr.com/96vot6

We have allot to uncover here however this situation requires quite a bit of context. First off YOU KNOW why hes saying he did not force her to do so and I am inclined to believe him, The thing I want to draw some attention too is the bottom part, The part where he accuses me of making her want to kill herself, and forcing her to pay me. 

ONE she at the time was not in a stable condition, and it was entirely due to her own decision to try and take down my channel over money she was not owed. The paying part was kinda fucked up though? It would be fucked up if I told her that she should fucking pay me right? Naw Let me tell ya guys what really went down. Arlymone was upset, and I was upset, when I first came to her I was like “BRO HOW MUCH MONEY DOES IT TAKE TO GET YOU OUT OF MY LIFE TAKE DOWN THE STRIKE NOW AND ILL JUST FUCKING PAY YOU AND WE WILL BE DONE” She then stated that her friends made her do it, and expressed... intentions of using the Money that I would of paid her to kill herself. As much as I love my channel I am not going to give money to someone so they may end there life even if it means my channel being in deep shit, I told her I won’t give her money if she is going to use it for that! 

None the less the conversation went on, she removed the strike and she just stated and cried that she wanted things to go back to the way they where. I told her I just can’t, things wont ever be like they where however if you want to show me that you HONESTLY are upset! That you honestly realize what you did was wrong and want me to at least respect you a little bit once this is over help make things right and repay me the 60 dollars that she costed me by removing my 25 videos for two days. She then stated she did not have that kind of money and that she wanted to do harm to herself and thats when I instantly retracted the offer stating that she most likely was not mentally able to be responsible for anything she was doing at the moment and that ANYTHING I DO Will just be twisted and turned against me.

Guess what, It was, and she told raven that I was forcing her to pay me to be friends again, Which honestly would not of happened. YES she would have a bit more respect from me but I still would of removed her, I still would of told people not to buy her shit, and I STILL would of been on bad terms with her BUT NONE THE LESS I would still respect her that little bit more on a personal level. 

At this point in time Both me and Raven are accusing eachother of shit that was simply coming from a person who was being a bit two face although non intentionally. She tells me Raven forced her to do so, Raven states he suggested it and she not being mentally capable of telling the difference strikes the fuck out of me. It does not excuse what she does and what she did but it explains what happens.

My next response was LITTERALLY what I just typed up there but in harsher terms, His response was this  “ so before we go any further and we fling more insults, you didn’t basically say this to her? i just need to pay him between 30 and 80$ and everything will be back to normal I say basically because thats how she worded it to me “ http://prntscr.com/96vvss 

I Tried to respond but he would... not... respond to me. At the time although I was aggressive I STILL wanted to sort things out but none the less he blocked me I can’t contact him and I doubt he can contact me. 

When I made the video which was 

Raven went on to post about how much bull shit was here, AND How that I was in the wrong for even making this public as it was a privet manner. My fans promptly tore him a new ass hole and he removed the comment like a cowered who honestly can’t stand by there word, a cowered who thinks things need to be privet even if you stone wall someone. Just in general a cowered. 

I USED to respect Raven as he was a old member of this new community however I can’t respect someone who calls someone a waste of human space, someone who threatens people and honestly believes copyright is a valid way of extorting money out of people. Instead of suggesting she should contact me or even let me know that there was an issue he suggests she goes right to copyright and its the reason why youtube is fucked up right now. Its because people think like him. 

Raven, If your reading this or if this info gets passed along some how I want to tell you a little story. Last time when the narrators got together and did a secret santa, I drew your name... I was thinking long and hard what to get you and I bought you this MineCraft Bat thing, I understood that you where upset with how your channel was stagnated and how allot of your friends where growing in popularity and you where not. I understood you had depression of sorts and I wanted you to have a gift, a gift that even though someone may not be in the room with you that someone at least cared about ya and something you could hug when those times get honestly dark http://prntscr.com/96vzt8 I bought ya a plush because Honestly I considered you a good friend... No one in that Secret santa bought me a gift, and I guess I see how this goes... the jerk who gets nothing is a waste of space while the person who is totally willing to consider someone a WASTE of HUMAN LIFE is of course good. 

It fucking hurts, It honestly fucking hurts to learn that people who you respect are dicks... That as much as you want to talk shit out that you can’t... that the only way I can talk about this is in a public forum.... God I love to be reminded how fucking pathetic I honestly am compared to allot of other people, rather its not getting a gift or just knowing that in the community the only people who are hated more than you are Snuff Bomb and King Spook. That the only people that will talk to me are Awesome peeps like @thecreepymessenger @Blameitonjorge And my good friend @tatstopvideos... Most of my support comes from beyond the community. 

What would u feel if u watch a drama that is old ?? :v curious :)

you make me laugh.

get outta here.