#njwank

This story has kinda’ been twisted a lot throughout the fandom, I’ve noticed.

Now, it’s probably great to hear directly from the source so this is the link to what actually happened exactly from the person it happened to.

I’ll just give a brief summary of what happened from her words in case you don’t feel like reading it, although I highly recommend that you do.

 The con this took place at, was NJCon.  Now, the ‘Mystery Girl’ actually had a really intelligent and thought out question to ask.  The question was:

“I’ve loved seeing Dean’s character become more comfortable with himself this season.  As a bisexual {this is the part where everyone went ape-shit and she didn’t get to finish}, I’ve noticed some possible subtext, as seen in ‘Everybody Hates Hitler’ that Dean might be coming to accept himself as something other than straight too?  I know you’ve said you know Dean better than anyone, so, in your professional opinion, as the preeminent scholar on Dean Winchester, if you see that as a valid interpretation of what’s going on with the character this season.

The questions fans were going to ask were actually screened before the con and they only got one question per person.  Her question passed the screening, so basically, she should have been fine.

What really bugs me, is that as soon as she said the word ‘bisexual’ everyone in the audience groaned….Like, they actually were that freakin’ rude about her stating her sexuality, wtf?  She then tried to continue but as soon as she got to the word ‘subtext’ everyone started booing and shouting things at her.  Then Clif stepped out and asked her, “Are you really going to ask this question?”  to which she tried to explain to Clif really quick what she was getting at with her question (which was really about Dean’s development as a character) all the while the crowd is still going A-wall.  So, Clif then says, “Don’t ask that.  Please, Just thank them and go.”

Now, she says that he didn’t say it in an angry way or anything, so she holds no hostility towards Clif because he was just doing his job.  She then asked Clif, since it was obvious she wasn’t going to ask her question, to tell Jared and Jensen that she meant no disrespect and then said into the microphone, “I meant no disrespect at all, thank you so much.”  Apparently, Jensen was incredibly confused and said, “I still don’t know what the question was….” and such.

So, apparently, Jensen wasn’t even talking to her during this, she says that he was merely trying to keep the crowd engaged whilst she relayed her question to Clif.

She states that she is not angry at Clif nor Jared or Jensen, but annoyed with the crowd (as she should be) because the minute she said her sexuality they groaned.  She points out that the end result of the question was just supposed to be Jensen going in depth about his characterization of Dean.

So, yeah.  That’s about it.  She also said that she’s not as irritated about that situation as she is about the fact that nobody could stop focusing on that one moment in particular instead of how great the con was in general.

I don’t see why that question would have been such a big deal?  Or anything dealing with queer relations like, wow.  I can see why shipping questions wouldn’t be allowed, but she was literally just asking about Dean’s character,like, I cannot believe people could be so rude as to actually boo her for that.  

whoooooie friend i'm sorry this is a late response but i've been mobile tumbling and i didn't want to answer this without xkit and tags and stuff.

okay, so, in the supernatural fandom, one of the yearly conventions is call njcon.  in 2013, at njcon, there was a panel where jensen ackles was answering questions.

and this girl stood up and asked her question, and she started by saying that she's bisexual.  mind you this takes a huge amount of nerve to say out loud to someone you admire, particularly in front of a large group of relative strangers.

the crowd doesn't let her finish her question.  they start booing her almost as soon as she outs herself, and it gets really bad when she starts her question, which was to ask about the apparent bi subtext in dean winchester as a character in season 8, and if that was going anywhere

because you know, she's bi, and she thinks it'd be really cool to, y'know, be represented on her fave show by one of the leads.

but yeah, the crowd didn't even let her finish asking her question because they assumed that it was a destiel question or something.  and jensen was a douche about it too iirc and the whole thing left an awful taste in my mouth

he's not a bad person?? that's what i think people aren't getting; those of us who are upset at him are upset because he's NOT an asshole, he's a good man who openly loves his fans

so we want him to be BETTER so that he doesn't accidentally exclude parts of his fanbase because he doesn't realise how hurtful the things he says can sometimes be, we want him to be better because we believe he CAN be and that he would WANT to be if he understood

he's never going to learn if nobody will accept that he can make mistakes and call him out on them. that's the only way anyone learns. but god, i wish someone like kim rhodes would sit him down and explain things to him. (i'd say misha, but i still think that while he's definitely trying and he's further along the road than jensen, he's still not quite there yet.)

I'm not sure 'most people' weren't hurt, to be honest. I just think that the people that were hurt have been shouted down by the people who weren't and call anyone saying they're hurt 'jensen haters', or have had their hurt delegitimised to the point where they question their own reaction or hide it

but that's not really the point; i don't honestly care if 'most people' weren't hurt by it, plenty of people i've seen were, and this isn't a new thing for jensen

for your sake, i'm glad you're not hurt, honestly i am, i wouldn't wish hurt on anyone

but when you say 'i'm sorry you're hurt, but it's not their fault, it's a misunderstanding' you're saying 'you misunderstood this thing and so it's your own fault you're hurt'. whether you mean to or not.

i'm honestly not sure how someone can look at the video, in the context of jensen's other comments along these lines, and in the light of clif's subsequent post on his facebook calling anyone who was upset wrong, and not be hurt, personally, or think that he's at least somewhat to blame

i'm not sure how someone can watch spn, the absolute kingmaker of queerbaiting and bullshit (with the exception that proves the rule being charlie), and not find it even a little upsetting or think that it's at fault

no, it wasn't a misunderstanding. at best, it was people being rude as fuck and jensen being thoughtless. there was no misunderstanding there. i'm hard pressed to think of a way there could be.

i'll be honest, i'm very, very tired of discussing this. i fought long and hard on clif's facebook against wave after wave of people telling me i was oversensitive, or just pissy, or that i was ruining the fun. i cried, multiple times, and eventually had to leave the thread. i cried watching the video. i'm glad you clearly weren't affected as badly as me and others were. but as respectful as you're trying to be with this message - and i do genuinely think you had no ill intent - you are telling me i'm not allowed to be upset with jensen for making comments - consistently - that hurt me. that i'm not allowed to be upset with the show, or the crew, for creating an environment so heterosexist and yet homoerotic that it outright encourages me to ship and question sexuality only to turn around and foster and encourage a crowd to shout down a fan for mentioning the words "bisexual" and "subtext" in the same question.

Repent and seek Chuck, because you have screwed over and sent hate to an innocent person.

She has gotten so much hate she's thinking about deleting her blog. All because she sent a text message to someone and it got misinterpreted and made into a rumor that she NEVER intended. Meanwhile, she was doing VIP events with me all weekend in New Jersey and didn't even realize any of this was happening until she got home.

Fandom, I don't care why you think it's okay, sending hate is NEVER OKAY. We need to stop this culture where sending accusations and hatred and booing and shaming is a valid response to a situation. It never, ever is, and you NEVER know the whole story.

If you don't want to read this, you're very welcome to scroll past this post. If you don't want to read this and do it anyway, you're very welcome to suck my dick. 

I am ~shoCKED that unfounded rumors would spread through tumblr so easily.

thanks hon ;)

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