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that part. and adding the question that if everyone talks about Fiona's dad and Shawn's wife, why is no one talking about Ned Brower and his wife Sarah Jean Morris, aka Jake's mom?

and Elysia might not have as many imdb credits or isn't as famous as these other people but she graduated from the nyu tisch program which is one of the most renowned programs in the country so she's got to be considerably talented to even get into a school like that and finish it. being young and not having yet had the chance to put her name on the map in good ol' hollywood isn't her fault, that's just how it is. everyone's gotta start somewhere and if production/Noah agreed to give her a chance for whatever reason why would she decline that? I'm not saying praise her to high heavens for something we haven't seen yet, but you don't have to tear her to shreds for something you don't even know yet either. can y'all just wait and see how she does on the pitt before putting her through the meat grinder? using her relationship to pball to get a role doesn't make her less of a hardworking nyu tisch graduate who deserves a chance.

btw famous alumni who did graduate from there include Aubrey Plaza, Kristin Bell, Philip Seymour Hoffman (RIP), Alexis Bledel, Martin Scorsese, Matthew Gray Gubler, Chandra Wilson, Elizabeth Olsen, Raúl Esparza, Daniel Dae Kim, Peter Krause, Lisa Edelstein.. i could keep going but the point should be clear. the full list is on wikipedia tho if y'all curious.