[ID. First panel, Nino sits at his and Adrien's table in school, he's angled to face Adrien, his right arm resting on the back of their bench and his left hand on the table. He's saying "I still can't believe I got Rose with "Ligma"..." with his eyes closed. There's a small amount of text next to his head that reads: "It was funny, but I still feel bad..." indicating he's saying it under his breath. Him saying this gets Adrien's attention.
Second panel, Adrien is facing forward at Nino. His face is set in a worried smile as he asks, "What's "Ligma"? Is it serious?".
Third panel, Wide shot of them at their desk, showing Marinette and Alya at their table as well, looking down at them. Adrien keeps an expression of now confused worry as Nino looks at him with an open mouth. Marinette is looking down at Adrien with both hands over her mouth as her shoulders shake with contained laughter. Alya is also covering her mouth, but her joy is less contained as she smiles. The word "SPEECHLESS" is written above them to help get the surprise the three of them feel across.
Fourth panel, a shot of Adrien alone, facing forward and covering his face in embarrassment as the statement, "Just found out what Ligma is" is pointed to him in a looping arrow.
Fifth panel, a wide shot of Ladybug and Chat Noir sitting on the edge of a building together. Chat Noir is sitting criss cross with his hands resting on his thighs, sitting forward a bit to show that he's listening to Ladybug. Ladybug is much more relaxed, leaning back on her right hand and holding her left hand up casually. She's smiling as she recalls: "And then he fell for Ligma! I feel bad, but I kinda wanna see if he'll also fall for "Candace"..."
Sixth panel, Chat Noir is now crossing his arms, raising an eyebrow, squinting his eyes, and tilting his head. His right cat ear tilts as well, while his left one stays straight. The words: "Skeptical but curious" are pointed at him with a straight arrow. He's saying, "And who's "Candace"?"
Seventh panel, Ladybug is looking at Chat Noir with a shocked expression, her eyebrows raised and her jaw dropped. She's sitting straighter, her hand is still resting on the ledge, but it's no longer supporting her. The same "SPEECHLESS" is floating above her as it was seen in the third panel, to show just how shocked she truly is.
Eighth panel, Chat Noir is sitting with his knees up to his chest as he covers his face with his hands in embarrassment. His ears are flattened and his tail is curled around his ankles. The words "Just found out who Candace is" is pointed at him with a straight arrow. End ID]
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@sillysiluriforme and i planned out kwami swaps for nino and alya! she did the sketch for this, which i have lined and colored :3 say hello to Crisemoisie and Miss Fortune
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i have been semi-formally bullied by @buggachat to draw this screenshot from illustrhater. i really really love nino's new look :3 djwifi for the win
i spent way too long sticking my drawing onto the background but it wouldve taken me even longer to sketch the backdrop so its fine. rest in peace my shoulders
Rewatching Wreckless Driver in French and it's hilarious how plain obviously on-screen Marientte's motivation is that she tries talking Adrien out of going to therapy to talk about Gabriel because she prioritizes her lies and secrets and knows Adrien is easily influenced by her
No, she isnt an evil ill-intentioned monster for this, but it's literally THERE. Not to mention, Marinette ONLY disagreeing about going to therapy when it comes to Adrien, everyone else she supports and perfectly understands what the their purpose of using therapy is.
This scene and characterization for Marinette and Alya doesnt even come out of nowhere, again, this is the episode right after Revelator. Said episode's conflict between Alyanette regarding Adrien's well-being, agency, and right to know the truth is straight up continued here on a smaller scale. And it's especially important because Alya here doesnt know 90% of Marinette's current motivations, lies, and other secrets anymore.
Marinette stans always yell about how superior their "media literacy" is (for ignoring and cherry-picking 80% of canon) and yet yall dont even wanna acknowledged that Alya being kept in the dark about everything by Marinette LOGICALLY means Alya is not capable of accurately assessing Marinette's true motivations. Cause how the hell could she at this point? lol Alya isnt saying "Oh, Marinette's problem isnt wanting to control how Adrien perceives his dead abuser who was Monarque so protect her lies on his expense, she just fears not being useful :)", Alya doesnt know that the former is even an option!
This is not rocket science. Look at what's on-screen. I promise you, CHILDREN know that Alya is missing the context she choose to forget. Because there was a whole episode about it. The episode right before this one. What a crazy coincidence, right? :D It's almost like that's story-telling and the story is trying to tell you something lol
Marinette is not some innocent idiot who cant comprehend what therapy is when it comes to Adrien specifically or a poor little saint of a girlfriend who cant bare the thought of not being the one to heal her boyfriend like the broken dove she thinks he is.
Marinette didnt want Adrien to go to therapy because her secrets are more important (that's nothing new, she literally risked murdering him to protect the secrets and lies she keeps about his life and on his expense), but Alya having reacted the way she did in Revelator and now not being aware of Marinette's secrets and motivations means Marinette was simply put in a checkmate where she couldnt keep trying to talk Adrien out of therapy without looking like an irrational, selfish, and abusive asshole.
That's all that happened here. And even that didnt get her to agree. Instead she gave Adrien broken and sad puppy dog eyes
Cause she doesnt even voice an argument, she just silently begs that Adrien will disregard his mental-health for her benefit and comfort again.
And the fact that Marinette doesnt talk for this "resolution" is important, because this way its only the two characters who dont know her secrets and motivations who will make up whatever excuse for Marinette's behavior again that makes sense with their limited information while marinette herself once again lets herself be given any excuse and reward/ consolation prize (of still getting to have power and influence over Adrien cause that's what the Love Square has come to for some reason) while all that's asked of her is to not go on a rampage on the spot and give a painted little smile as "support":
It's so obvious whats happening here and the French original voice acting isnt hiding it whatsoever lol You have to be Narnia-deep into delulu-land to ignore all of this in favor of claiming that Alya is SOMEHOW CORRECT with her assessment of Marinette's motivation and mind-set despite being stuck pre-s5 finale secrets-wise. Alya is pretty much convinced to be interacting with a different Marinette than who is actually in front of her (but even that is the norm for Marinette in pretty much any dynamic, especially the Love Square though)
And to put a perfect little bow on the matter, the end card even shows Video Game Marinette not using her weaponized love to aim for Adrien's ghosts to help him, she instead uses her weaponized love to aim at HIM:
Marinette's love is HURTING Adrien because Marinette never listens to anyone around her and ignores everything being said the second she gets the opportunity to disregard it, because waiting for validation is nicer and apparently more important.
So basically, exactly what he end of Relevator already told us. Where Marinette, well, whimpered to a mind-wiped Alya that she's afraid Alya would ever hate her for secrets and lies (without giving Alya and context whatsoever) and then took this Alya's unknowing invalidation of her previous self that knew ONE of Marinette's big secrets, to completely ignore the second chance Alya gave her in the battle because Alya "changed her mind and learned her lesson so no need to care about anything battle-Alya said"
Because it doesnt matter that Alya previously said something else entirely when she knew the truth,
And that Alya made it crystal clear that she wont be complicit in Marinette's massive lie this time because she thinks it's disgustingly wrong and thinking Marinette is the only one who knows any of this and therefore gave Marinette an ultimatum that she can either agree to come clean now immediately, so Alya wont have to lie as she stays by her side, or accept that Alya will wipe her own mind and Marinette can come clean by herself later which is more difficult:
(lets not ignore how straight up disgustingly Marinette is using and manipulating Chat Noir here to get him to unknowingly keep the secret she herself said he wouldnt stand for either to the point where he would tell Adrien the truth behind her back. Like, girl. This is repulsive behavior that's made even worse by this being the only time since s4's Ladynoir conflict "resolution" that Marinette TOLERATES Chat Noir getting to do and be more than her small pet who's only worth and skill is to worship her and be her tool and sacrifice because him showing initiative "stressed" and "oppressed" her, so he had to stop. Very telling that NOW she suddenly wanted him to develop his powers, and ONLY this one time for this specific purpose that only benefits HER, and ONLY when he was denied any actual agency in making this decision. She truly has so much RESPECT and healthy love for her kitty, doesnt she? :)))
Leading to Marinette straight up deciding that she will let battle-Alya leave her because that way she's back to being buried alive underneath lies and Marinette can try to continue loop-holing herself into not having to change anything despite that breaking battle-Alya's trust (too):
because now Alya "agrees" that this is MARINETTE'S secret, SHE is the poor victim and HER comfort is what's most important, not actual justice or Adrien's well-being and dignity, Chat Noir's agency and dignity that battle-Alya only helped Marinette deceive because she literally told Marinette to IMMEDIATELY set things right and come clean which includes to CHAT NOIR, and even Alya's morals she made very VERY clear
Marinette ended Revelator by giving Alya the Chat Noir treatment. Bury them alive underneath lies and only listen to them invalidating whatever they said before because now she's tricked them into having a completely wrong perspective of reality and of HER
But sure, please, tell me again how Alya in the episode afterwards Wreckless Driver TOTALLY has all the needed information to accurately assess Marinette's motivation and mind-set regarding her not wanting Adrien to go to therapy about his father's nature, despite the show going out of it's way to fully establish that ALYA DOES NOT KNOW THE MARINETTE IN FRONT OF HER BECAUSE OF MARINETTE'S LIES:
No seriously, try and convince me. Oh, and please use actual canon episodes and scenes as proof to back your argument up. I'm not taking any vague "canon isnt canon and the cherry-picked vibes are telling me Marinette is incapable of being FLAWED flawed, she's actually stupid beyond compare and doesnt know what she's doing but pure and owed full control anyway, and its everyone else's fault and responsibility to make up for that by putting her first" speeches as proof that coincidentally avoid using recent images/ gifs ect and mostly talk about these characters as if we're still in s1-s4.
Theories & Thoughts About "Secret Protocol", "Nemesis" 's New Trailers & Clips, Things in Season 7 + Yap about Alya [SPOILER WARNING!!!]
💥Release Dates: 1st August "Secret Protocol"; 8th August "Nemesis" (English Dub on Disney), while the first 4(?) episodes of Season 7 should come out from the 20th of November onwards, but it might change!
We also finally got the full LoveSquare official poster (I'm sure they were waiting for them all to be posted before they can destroy the LoveSquare in the show😔)
[Temporary "Read More" for SPOILER WARNING! ⬇️]
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AHHHHHH🔥🔥🔥 YESSS!!! I knew Heartfixer was screaming to me "She is getting akumatized again"!! She's so cool, a Marble Laser-Shooting-Supersonic Angel!!! She also has a Sword and a Shield it seems!
Akumanette with Wingsssss and no pupils!!! *Kinda* (conceptually) like my LB Akuma design I made back when we thought LadyChaos was her!😯 (ik the design is different)
MARICHAT FIGHT MARICHAT FIGHT MAR-
I was expecting Ladybug this time, but apparently she snaps as Mari(?) again, makes sense ngl! And LB could still happen in s7-8 👀
EDIT: I Read a comment that said "Angel of Darkness" and... Lmao what if they designed her as an angel as a reference to this historical fandom trend🤣
Angel Of Darkness 🚫 Angel Of Marble ✅️
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I think the KungFood akuma in Secret Protocol won't last long, he's probably just a distraction before Crysalis shows up and the Heroes spot her and hunt her down (CN Fighting someone on the rooftops and LB running in the Catacombs?). It also seems that Alya(?) is using an illusion(?) to look like Ladybug while they're fighting KungFood and also while Marinette(?) is Akumatized into the Marble Angel 👁👁
Some people think it could be an intentional akumatization to make Crysalis lose her tracks, it doesn't look like it, but maybe THIS is the akumatization Mari will strumentalize into a plan, basically what I theorized Heartfixer was gonna do (turn a real upsetting event into an opportunity to remove suspicions about her ID/discover more about Crysalis), but honestly any Maribug akuma could've worked like that (it wasn't something I thought specifically for HF)
Also we discovered Chat is mad because KungFood kidapped Marinette (is that really her?), which is kinda what I was expecting (someone threatening/hurting Mari or her family)
LOL she's having the time of her life for sure
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This gotta be the continuation of Sadnansi's endscene!! Or at least it's identical to how I imagined it and they're talking about Gabriel! I even made a Comic/MiniFic about this scene's possible follow-up! (If it's not the same night as Sadnansi, maybe it's them meeting after Mari's akumatization?)
What if this is gonna be in the last few minutes of Nemesis: she gives him the letter, he opens it and then it ends on a cliffhanger which continues in s7 right where it left off: we see him reading it and his reaction! That's gonna be the plot of the two parter episodes of s7? That's my theory🤔
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ALYA, A NEW "ENEMY"?
Honestly I love Alyanette's friendship so much, they have been amazing together, especially in season 4!! She has been so important in Marinette's life and she's the reason she had the strenght to continue being LB and the Guardian when she was crumbling.
I've been defending her for her crashout in Revelator as I think she had a valid point and she was simply mad that Mari hid such a terrible thing from everyone, including Adrien, who should've been the first one to know; as well as I still belive she's right to be mad once she discovers it again and I'm sure they're gonna make up eventually...💜
But, after reading the s7 synopsis, I think this argument is going to be more serious and prolonged than it seems... We might find ourselves in a spot where there's an uncertain future ahead between the two.
So I have to say my thoughts on their friendship, about some red flags(?) I've noticed over the years, but I've brushed off as just simple cartoon silliness or just simple character flaws, which can now suddently turn out to have been foreshadowings of Alya's true nature all along? [IT'S NOT SALT, IT'S SOMETHING I NOTICED OVER THE YEARS THAT ALWAYS MADE ME RAISE AN EYEBROW, It could litterally be completely irrelevant if it's not intentional writing for some PlotTwist!]
There have been some istances in the early seasons that made it feel off and I'm NOT talking about the "believing Lila" thing, litterally every character (minus Adrien) believed her and she technically also apologized in s5 (but got cut after storyboard phase for some reason). Instead I'm talking about those times she pushed Mari to confess her feelings to Adrien, even when she didn't feel ready and Mari openly told her No.
Like in 'Horrificator' when she pushed her to be the protagonist actor to replace Mylene (who ran away crying), so she could get a kiss from Adrien and Mari initially refused as her role was being the Director, not the actor, and said she didn't want her fist kiss to be like that. But Alya convinced her anyway (and this event caused Chloe to get mad) instead of letting her check on poor Mylene (who got akumatized in the meantime)
Or in 'Reflekdoll' when Juleka was having a panic attack and Mari was trying to help her, Alya decided to push her to become the model replacement, so she could pose with Adrien, Mari tried to refuse, but Alya successfully convinced her. This way they left Juleka alone, she got akumatized & Mari got blamed for this happening, when instad she and Rose were the most concerned about Juleka not feeling well (this never sat right with me ngl).
Or in 'Copycat' when she said she didn't feel ready to phonecall Adrien and invite him to the Movies because she wasn't prepared enough, but Alya pushed the Call button anyway, Mari said her nonsense and the whole "steal the phone" drama happened to delete the message, this way she couldn't show up to the Statue event as she was busy breaking into a locker (Alya checked on her for updates on this 'secret operation') and Theo got akumatized.
She was also the one who gave Marinette information about where Adrien was a bunch of times, like in "Stormy Weather" Mari was busy babysitting Manon, suddently Alya shows up and tells her that Adrien was having a photoshoot in the Park. Mari said she didn't know about it, but couldn't go regardless, because she had to babysit the kid and Alya still convinced her to go watch Adrien's shooting.
Same with "Puppetter 2" where Mari was babysitting Manon again, but Alya informed her Adrien was going to the museum and convinced her to come with Manon, this caused the akumatization later: DJwifi ignored the kid after they said they would look after her, while they left Adrienette in a room together (Mari said she didn't wanna stay in the room alone with him btw, ik she's avoidant and overdramatic, but she still said she didn't want it)
As an example of what I mean, you can see how Alya did this again in the Webisode "Busy Day", where she appeared at Mari's bakery and told her Adrien was going to the Cinema later, Mari refused her offer to go, because she had to help her parents bake macarons, but Alya kept insisting (fortunately, instead of abandoning Mari's parents to do all the work, they decided to call Julerose to help, so they could finish faster and then Adrien & Nino showed up to the bakery on their own)
Maybe I'm just overthinking and this IS just silly cartoon stuff/character flaw which isn't that deep and it's irrelevant to the plot, but if it is... Then somehow I saw this "Alyanette Breakup" coming??
I was hoping to be wrong, cuz I still love and trust her so much, she's been so important to Mari, who needs her in her life! She made great points this season and I thought she was being the voice of reason while Mari was being weirder than usual, but instead, it seems the "Civil War" is actually gonna be Alya vs Marinette?😭 (Very cool drama tho, in my head it makes more sense than LB vs CN civil war even! I think Adrien is more likely to go in a neutral side instead -aka: away from everyone-)
I can't lie, she still has given me weird vibes this whole season, but I couldn't put my finger on why. I even thought she was actually showing her character development and she was better than ever! The contrast between her rationality vs Mari's wildness was so fun to watch in s6! But my mind still kept telling me something was off for some reason, no idea why! Because, other than these situations that I didn't like, I think their friendship has been wonderful and one of the sweetest things in the show!
Could it be that this new attitude somehow highlighted those behaviours she showed in the past, in retrospective?? Could it have highlighted that she used to be her enabler and accomplice in the past, now suddently she's eyerolling and scoffing at Mari's crazy plans and getting annoyed whenever she doesn't tell her something? What changed?
(Like, in contrast, the crazy plan in "Gigantitan" was something they ideated together, it wasn't Mari alone, Alya was just as hyped to partecipate, if not more, they both created it and then called the girls to join)
But "let's not get wet before it rains", as we say in my country ("let's not get ahead of ourselves"), since the scene we see in the trailer by itself does show she has a slightly less angered reaction than the one in Revelator and there's still the chance they make up towards the end of the episode and the akumatization could still be half-staged or just Mari's immediate reaction to Alya leaving the room while angry at her! (Ripping the picture is still crazy if it's somehow staged in any way tho). It's mostly the Synopsis of s7 that worried me, but it's still possible she's not the traitor in question? Nathalie could be the traitor too
I Love Alya, I hope she manages to understand why Mari did it (while still holding her accountable and still being rightfully allowed to be angry at her) since she has seen how bad it has affected her mental health lately, she SAW it and they talked about it in Sadnansi!😭💔
...This New Episode of Miraculous Secrets About Alyanette Came Out While I Was Writing This Post... Uhhh Sus Timing...
ALSO IF ANYONE COMMENTS "WHy ShE uSiN ThE MiRaCuloUs Of illUsioN If ShE HaTes LyInG HaHeA" IMMA RIP UR HEAD OFF (/nm /sarc), litterally every character has something either contrasting or complementing their Miraculous power, it's intentional, pls shut up😂 /silly
Speaking of, last sus thing imma mention is how Lila's debut (Volpina in s1) had a plot point about the Fox Miraculous set before everyone (the characters & the viewers) discovered a Fox Miraculous existed in the first place, so I've always wondered if that was just to match Lila's love for lies or it's going to connect her to Alya's storyline in the future somehow?🤔
Btw I drew a little sketch of Alya's Miraculous Fusion and Mari wearing that gorgeous QiPao a while ago (after Gloob did that 300k comments thing on insta), u can check em out if u want! I was (and still am) a lil burned-out by exams, so it's nothing great, but I'm gonna post more art soon💕
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NEW PEOPLE TO TRUST
Speaking of, they also mention New Allies Marinette discovers she can trust more openly than ever before and I've seen many people say it's her parents... At first I was rolling my eyes when they said she's gonna reveal her ID to Sabine, but what if they're onto something? They're the first people who came to my mind as well when I read the synopsis and seen the clips from the trailer!
The one where she's wearing the QiPao especially: she has completely different emotions in every shot they've shown so far and Tikki is floating next to her, looking in the same direction as her (Is this scene from Secret Protocol or Nemesis??)
Otherwise it's Fei or maybe she's gonna open up more than ever with Kagami? Felix? Zoe? Luka? (Nah he's on the beach and he isn't new) An unexpected Miraculer that has been on the sides so far? Idkkk, could even be Aglae or "Blonde Cerise" and it's a long-term trap by Crysalis for s7, but would Mari reveal her ID to this new classmate/person she isn't very close with? Hmmmmmh
Anyway another thing from the synopsis is that maybe we're getting the Ladynoir Identity Reveal (if "the unthinkable" is not referring to Monarch) , The season 6 one already had some clues, as I said in my Adrien finding out clues Post👀
[Also in the new poster are they're looking at Tikki?? Or Uncle Wang?]
For the Gloob logo in their trailer... Do you know about the emoji spoilers that were posted while ago? The Nemesis one had a Moon emoji... (unless it's not about the literal Moon but it refers to the Marble Angel)
Also that's the old akuma design, does this mean anything?
