nh/hnt fans being completely disgusting is unbelievable, they even surpass their craziness every day
showing homophobia and misogyny because there are people who say that hnt's character meets with patriarchal stereotypes
leave aside that her crush on a boy causes her to be a terrible character, (and yeah, it reinforces a patriarchal idea)these people are calling sns misogynistic but they downgrade their favorite to a girl who gets married
most of the answers are "hnt marries naruto, she won" as if it were a good thing?? what if the guy married your favorite girl out of pity and now she lives crying because he abandoned her I don't understand where the importance of her winning and sasuke not staying with naruto...
they talk about marriage as if Kishimoto didn't mention that marriage is a punishment for naruto to reward hnt
"l love misandrist women" LMAOO are you guys serious? her character is literally a total man-worshipper, she ditches her sister for a man, ditches her family and bodyguard for a man and she even neglects her daughter to be behind that man. what misandric woman are you talking about? If she were misandric, she wouldn't be loved by dudebros first of all
Calling sns a fetishist because they call sasuke with female pronouns is funny to me, they fetishize the gender roles that nh has but ok?
say“just let sasuke be a boyy” in response to people feminizing sasuke. they’ll complain it’s mischaracterizing, as if
1. his gender expression would dramatically change his personality
2. he’s some ultra masculine character canonically?
He’s associated with common symbols of femininity, like yin, the moon, snakes. He has soft features and is drawn to be a bishonen, and was mistaken as a baby girl by kushina. they will bring up heteronormativity, saying we just want sasuke to be a woman in our ship becauseof course, femininity = woman. Doing crazy logic to basically claim gender nonconformity is actually regressive in contrast to what, a masc4masc relationship? As if irl masc4masc gay men dont discriminate against feminine gay men bc of their own internalized homophobia/misogyny
naruto/sasuke being hypothetically feminized in fanon explorations, doesn't make the dynamic heteronormative. queer people reapporiate the social constructs of feminity and masculinity outside of the patriarchal cishetero dyad, it's expansive and resists normative expectations of gender. feminine men and masculine women are not being actively fostered by society, and that's why there are countless stories of feminine gay men and masculine lesbian women, in particular being killed and hate crimed by bigots.
they are also obsessed with sex, thinking like nh always has it because "they have two children" but of course, sns can't publish fanarts, some meme or some content like that because they fetishize!
I still remember how obsessed they were when naruto and hnt were in another dimension because in their heads they would fuck and make the "red-haired uzumaki". talking all the time about how nh fucks, but if sns talks about how beautiful their relationship is, how they love each other...it's just fetish....
although they consider sns as misogynistic, it won't change that hnt's character is for the male consumer, as her character only revolves around one man and nothing else. "She- she decided to be a housewife!" no? She's a fictional character, and her creator, a misogynistic and sexist man, chose for her to remain a housewife. he even says that if you like hnt, it's because of her big breasts.
and even if they want to defend her by making her a boss, it doesn't change the fact that she is a submissive doormat... which even feminist women have criticized.
