A Helpful Interrogation -- [Copala feat Rajah]
In which Copper and Rajah conduct an interview with a very important person to the investigation.
@nala-calame
Further Reading: The Investigation Begins -- Copper and Taka Liars and Loopholes -- Taka and Rodmilla
[Dated June 28th]
COPPER: It had been a long three weeks since the investigation into InterPride had started. Rajah and himself were taking most of the interviews, at least here in Swynlake. The London department was handling the London office. Still, there was 194 employees top down, from the janitors to the board members, and all of them had to be interviewed.
Theyâd gotten through most of the bottom-feeders. Those were pretty in and out. It was only as they climbed the ladder that things were beginning to get tangled. Everyone seemed to have an opinion on Taka, many of them comparing him to his brother (and not particularly favorably in many cases). Some of them seemed frightened, but most of them just seemed--disheartened or unsurprised by the investigation.
Next on the list was Nala Calame, who had been talked about with much favor by her coworkers. Rajah and Copper both liked her too, but they also both knew that appearances could be deceiving and that they needed to set aside their personal feelings on the matter.
When she appeared in the doorway, Copper still smiled and gestured towards the chair that had been set out for her.
âGood morning, Miss Calame. We apologize for keeping you from work, hopefully this will not take long. Did you sign the nondisclosure agreement that the secretary had for you?â
The document had detailed that anything discussed here could not be discussed with anyone, especially those within the investigation. To do so could be considered an obstruction of justice and handled accordingly.
NALA AND RAJ: When Nala got the notice from the police that it was her turn to be questioned, she got the same feeling in her gut  she got whenever she was around Taka at all. It made her feel a little sick, a little on edge-- like something she couldnât put her finger on. For years, sheâd tried to ignore than feeling if only because Simba loved his uncle so much. Heâs so weird, Nala used to say, wrinkling her nose up. Sometimes Simba acted offended and other times he just laughed it off like Nala was joking, like of course Taka was weird, but weird in a good, friendly way-- the way that clowns could be weird.
But Nala couldnât get rid of that creepy feeling. Over the past year that sheâd returned to Swynlake, the feelings had doubled-over with guilt because Taka had been nothing but kind to her. Sheâd been put in an excellent position in the company. She had time to do her passion project with the Lyons Foundation. He let her hire her own interns, let her work so many hours from home after sheâd shattered her knee-- heâd been nothing but a kind and fair boss to her.Â
Still the feeling persisted. It was wrong, Nala had been telling herself for months now. She tried to weed it out. But it crept back in always, the guilt screaming on its heel.
Now? Now--
Nala felt guilty for not listening to her gut. Now everything was suddenly suspicious to her: every smile Taka had given her, every project and favor and nicety. What if heâd been trying to hide something all along and sheâd fallen for it? What if she had implicated herself in something and not realized it?
What if she was overreacting right now?Â
All these thoughts boiled away inside her as she arrived at the police station, led back at once to a room. She smiled at Copper and Rajah as she entered, giving a polite nod and offering to shake their hands.Â
âYes, yes I did. Thank you,â she said to Copper. Then she sat down, crossing her legs at once, trying to get nestled in the chair. âI... Iâll do my best to answer any questions you have.
And Nala would-- she just didnât know if she could.
COPPER: Copper chewed on his lip a little, glancing at Rajah as Nala settled into the chair. She was one of the first people from higher up that they were interviewing. Though, not the first person who had been around the Lyons family for so long. (In some cases, generations, even.) They hadnât interviewed Sarabi or Simba, who besides Taka were the last remaining Lyons--at least as far as they had been able to uncover.
Nala was just about the closest thing, according to everyone else. And, she was so sweet, both Rajah and Copper thought so. The likelihood of her having anything to do with this was slim. It made him feel awful about it, it made him feel tired.
He took a few steps to the side, turning on the camera recorder in the corner.
âThank you, thatâs appreciated. And, this interview will be recorded for the records, and anything said on tape can be used in court. You may, however, ask us to stop at any time, though, you must know a note will be made that you said things off record.â Â
Sighing, he walked back over towards the table and sat down in one of the chairs across from Nala, lacing his fingers together and placing them on the table top.
âNow, for the easy part, just the simple things, like how long youâve been working for InterPride, what you do for them, your relationship to Taka Lyons, your relationship with the Lyons family. Anything that you think could be of importance and we will go from there.â
NALA: The easy part?
Nala didnât find those questions so easy. It was funny-- if she and Copp had been out for coffee or tea and heâd asked her those things, Nala would tackle the question with a splitting smile, the words bubbling to her lips without pause. And itâs not like Nala didnât want to talk about these things now; she simply didnât know where to start. She wanted to be concise, clear, helpful, but she wasnât certain that she should be telling Copper the same things she would tell a friend. Or perhaps that was exactly what she was supposed to do.
Nala just didnât want to leave anything out. Justice, to Nala, was extremely important. It was perhaps one of the most important things in the world. Her stomach was already queasy with the thought she could have obstructed justice without meaning to.
But Nala just nodded, hiding her insecurity as best as she could. That was all she had to do: do her best.
âWell-- Iâve been working at InterPride as the Associate CFO for InterPrideâs Corporate Social Responsibility branch for over a year now. I think it's been about...a year and five months,â she said. âI began in January 2016. My primary responsibilities are to oversee InterPrideâs initiatives to give back to the community and support projects in line with InterPrideâs mission and vision to provide safe workplaces for people regardless of their Magick or Mundus status. A lot of my job involves-- overseeing contracts for expansions, making sure they meet environmental regulations and donât contribute to gentrification of at-risk communities, balancing our CSR budget and allocating funds...planning local fundraisers sometimes,â she added, thinking about last yearâs fundraiser for fairy home preservation. Though sheâd come in quite late on that one, mostly handling the execution, not the planning itself.
âInterPride also lobbies Parliament and sponsors bills that support pro-Magick efforts. Sometimes I help with those efforts but my counterpart in the London office typically does that,â said Nala. âI-- also, as my own personal side project have been preparing to start the Lyons Foundation with Sarabi Lyons.â
She wracked her brain but that pretty much covered the first part of his question. Nala took another breath.
âAs for my relationship with the family and with Taka...well...they raised me,â said Nala, smiling a little more. âMy father was a biology teacher before he came to work at InterPride himself, in the environmental regulations department. I grew up with the Lyons. My mother and Sarabi are best friends,â explained Nala. âI...went to school with Simba, I went to university with him-- we-- we were supposed to get married actually,â she snorted. She wouldnât have mentioned it but she was scared of including too little. âIt was a sort of outdated custom, my father is a very traditional Muslim man but-- he understood when we both mutually decided to break the engagement. Um, following...Mufasaâs death, I⊠I went back to London and was working at a nonprofit devoted to creating new technologies to ensure clean water in developing countries...but I came back when Taka offered me this job.â
She adjusted in her chair.
âI-- didnât know why he did but he told me he was worried about Simba and so he was moving the offices back to Swynlake to be closer to him. Simba has had a lot of trouble dealing with his fatherâs death soâŠof course I wanted to help and be there for him. Taka gave me this really amazing job, just a few years out of uni, and heâs supported the projects Iâve wanted to take on and gave me an intern. Iâve been rather happy, professionally speaking,â said Nala. And now she hesitated again.
It was that strange cognitive dissonance between her head and her heart. Her head told her that she owed Taka for everything heâd done for herself, Simba-- even Sarabi to some extent, taking over InterPride in the first place. But her heart had never liked him. Her heart found him a bit creepy, whereas Simba just found him âweirdâ in a âhahaâ way.
âOf all the Lyons though-- Taka and I have never been close,â she started slower. âI...didnât like that...he sort of came between Simba and Mufasaâs relationship in uni and a bit in college too. Simba would always run off to his apartment,â she said, rolling her eyes a bit. âI dunno if-- thatâs probably irrelevant. And I am grateful for everything heâs done for me. Iâm glad that I get to work at InterPride again and live here in Swynlake and be here for the Lyons. I owe them so much.â
COPPER: All the information about her job at InterPride matched up with the information that they had on file, which Copper flicked idly through as he listened to her spiel. All the dates matched, all the titles, and responsibilities. They didnât care about that. They didnât think that there would be anything wrong with it, anything suspicious.
What they wanted was information on Taka, not Mr. Lyons, CEO of InterPride. So far, they hadnât interviewed anyone who knew Taka on any sort of personal level. He didnât go out and get drinks with his employees. He very rarely visited their offices. They saw him in meetings and occasionally stalking the halls, but to many, he was a mysterious overseer. A stark contrast to Mufasa, most reported, who had treated his employees like family. That was what they were interested in. Knowing who Taka was, building a more personal profile of the manâit would help their case.
The whole thing about the marriage was definitelyâŠinteresting, but Copper dismissed its importance, what would it have to do with Taka, anyways?
It only got interesting after Mufasaâs death, the way Nala told it. Copper sat up a little straighter, as his gut simultaneously dropped downwards.
Copper had several follow up questions, they jumped easily to his lips. Perhaps it was because he was already suspicious of Taka, maybe that was why the threads were easier to draw between Nalaâs words. They all led back to one thing: Mufasa. It wouldnât be that shocking of a story, had to be, actually, one of the oldest of mankind: brother kills brother for his power. The Feyâs Goldânow, that was the piece that wasnât clicking. Which was frustrating, because thatâs what they had evidence on. Mufasaâs death? For all intents and purposes, it really did look like an accident, and any evidence wouldâve been washed away long, long ago.
âThank you, Nala. Just a few follow up questions to that, if you will. Firstly, you said Simba has been having a lot of trouble with Mufasaâs death? Would you say it isâmore than a normal level of grief? And, do you know what might be causing it, if it is? Donât worry, heâs not going to get in trouble. Weâre just trying to get a full picture.â
Copper shifted a little in his seat. It was funny, because the thing that Nala said was probably irrelevant had sparked Copperâs interest the most.
âAs for Simbaâs relationship with Taka, would you care to elaborate a little more on that? In your opinion, how did Taka come between Mufasa and Simba? Did Simba not have a good relationship with Mufasa? Did Taka not have a good relationship with Mufasa?â
NALA: Nala didnât expect these follow-up questions.
Her eyebrows shot up, then furrowed just as quickly as they came. Questions about Simba-- which made her heart turn to steel in her chest, even though the guilt was cold as ice in the rest of her veins. Questions about Mufasaâs death, about Simbaâs relationship to Taka, about his relationship to Mufasa-- about Taka and Mufasa. Nala doubted any of this was relevant to the investigation. How could it be? It was all old news by now, years and years old. It wore heavy on her heart to think about and she didnât want to go trudging toward that old pain; unearthing it would make it burn.
But then again, what did Nala really know about what this investigation was and why it was coming to light now? She didnât know. And so now she worried-- worried for Simba, who was finally finding some peace after all these years, and Sarabi too. Her desire for justice butted heads with her desire to protect these people, who were the dearest to her heart.
âThatâs all a bit-- complicated,â she said after a half-second, and this wasnât a lie. It was complicated. Nala hadnât thought about the whole mess that was Simba-and-Mufasa-and-the-future-of-InterPride for a long time, but itâd been a heartache then too. âSimba loved his father more than-- more than anything. He wanted to please Mufasa and make him proud but his father didnât always⊠listen, I suppose, the way that Simba wanted him to.â
Nala herself had never really understood Simbaâs feelings there. She thought it was an honor to serve InterPride. And because she didnât understandâŠ
â...and I suppose Taka did listen, more than...more than Mufasa sometimes. Simbaâs always been very fond of his uncle too so whenever he got upset or didnât like what Mufasa told him, he just-- called up Taka or ran away to Takaâs apartment. I canât, erm, tell you a lot about Taka and Mufasa really. I only know what I heard from Simba and my own dad, who--well, Taka became COO and lots of people in the London offices thought it was a bit undeserved. Nepotism and all. But Mufasa always saw the best in people.â She nodded, her heart panging, as she remembered-- seeing Mufasaâs smile clearly in her head.
She missed that smile and the way she felt--strong and self-assured-- when he turned it her way.
âAs for⊠Mufasaâs death and Simbaâs⊠grief, I mean, he was...he was there,â she said much softer. She looked down at the table for a brief second before she met Coppâs eyes again. âDuring the car crash. He was in the car. I think itâs been harder for him⊠because of that and surviving when his father didnât.â
COPPER: This wasnât surprising either, not really. At least, not the part about a kid under pressure butting heads with his father. That was--normal.
What intrigued him was the accident and Takaâs relationship with Simba. Obviously it wasnât something that Simba discussed with Nala, which meant something. And they wouldnât get the full story until they sat down with the prodigal son, himself. He had this feeling in his gut that Nala didnât know anything, at least, nothing as to what Taka had been up to. She could just be a good actress, but heâd been taught how to look for a liar, and Nala did not seem like a liar to him. Which meant, outside of speculation, she wasnât really any use to them.
It kept coming back to the accident, Taka assuming the role of CEO. Had second in command not been enough for him? Had Simba somehow been involved? (That thought was very brief, and unlikely, considering Simba appeared to have no interest in running InterPride, though he was still benefiting off its profit.)
Copper nodded his head at her, rubbing a hand over his beard. He was weighing his options now. Leave things as they are, or press a little further, try to dig into Takaâs mysterious past (of which there was very little papertrail outside of his school reports--all which were rather excellent academically.) But, if he dug further, he ran the risk of Nala putting pieces together that they didnât want people putting together yet. Namely, that this was more than just a simple embezzlement case. But--maybe she could give them information without knowing that was what she was doing.
âDo you think it was deserved, then? Taka becoming COO? Taking over as CEO?â he prodded, trying to find the edge of her loyalty. âI know you said heâs given you free rein over your--Lyons Foundation project. Has he allotted similar freedoms to other branches of the business? Â Youâre Associate CFO, so, in your opinion are funds being allocated in the companyâs best interest?â
NALA: She raised her eyebrows at Copper. She was beginning to wonder what he was really after.
She supposed it didnât matter. Nala was not a liar, as best as she could be, that is. She did lie sometimes, but this was all anonymous and honestly...she didnât feel a loyalty to Taka the way she felt to Simba and Sarabi and Mufasa. She should. She knew she should. But everytime she saw Taka in that chair at the long conference table, looking over the rest of them, king of the proverbial jungle, she thought to herself-- It should be Simba.
âHonestly-- no, I donât think itâs deserved. Taka was more or less estranged from the Lyons for a period. His parents and him, I knew they had a difficult relationship-- it was only Mufasa who wanted Taka involved. But-- like I said, I think Mufasa saw the best in people. And if he trusted Taka, then-- well, he was right for the job,â said Nala though her gut told her otherwise. âAnd CEO, I mean, Simba was in no state, so it was either the board nominated someone who wasnât a Lyons or promoted from within or Taka, as the last eligible Lyons, took over. It wasnât an ideal situation.â
In fact, as she said it, it felt too convenient. But maybe that was just Copper, planting seeds of doubt in her head. (But no, no-- something about it wasnât right. Nala felt a little sick.)
âErm, as for my job well-- I, I proposed the Lyons Foundation with Sarabi Lyons. Iâm not sure other employees have taken that initiative. My other projects have all been in the work for years and years though-- developing communities takes a long time-- really, I...I think all my projects come from Mufasaâs yearsâŠâ
And she trailed off.
Because even she thought that was suspicious now.
She looked directly at Copper, knowing that he could feel the shift in her mood too. She didnât bother to hide it. So Nala sat up straighter. âYes, Taka has not afforded me any new projects since I started.â
âNo new projects?â echoed Sheriff Patel. âDo you know if your London counterpart is handing that?â
Nala shook her head âNot from what Iâm aware of. Like I said, sheâs basically a lobbyist. Her duties are a lot different than mine.â
COPPER: It wasnât an ideal situation.
Except it was, for one person.
Copper looked at Rajah when he spoke and he was glad to know that his partner was on the same page as himself. That this was highly suspect. If it was Copperâs place to say (and it could be, if he wanted it to be), heâd ask if Nala found any of this suspicious, but he had a feeling she was already on her way there, and at the moment, he didnât want to encourage anymore putting it together on her own.
He had a feeling she was the type to take justice into her own hands. Maybe that was because the first time heâd met her, her best friend (whom this investigation involved) had tried to beat a man senseless. Albeit the bastard had deserved it, but, birds of a feather. Which meant Nala could get herself into trouble if she started poking around. Copper felt the urge to curb any sort of suspicion for the moment.
And, he was going with his gut on this one: Nala didnât know anything. Sheâd basically confirmed what they already knew: that Taka was not well-loved among the InterPride Incorporation, that he was estranged for most of his adult life from his family, and most importantly; that the funds were not being allocated properly. But, she wasnât involved in crunching the numbers. They would know more when they got the analysis back from the financiers theyâd sent the last five yearsâ worth of profit to.
âI know this seems abrupt, but I think that is all we need from you at this time. Thank you, Nala. Your testimony has been helpful and we will probably be getting in touch with you in the future to discuss a few of the things we went over today in more detail. Iâd like to remind you that what transpired today cannot be discussed with anyone, InterPride employee or otherwise. Now, if you have any questions, feel free.â
He gestured invitingly, leaning back in his seat a little.Â
NALA: And just like that, it was over just as it started.
Thatâs how it felt to Nala, who briefly frowned. She had just felt like she was beginning to understand the point of all this. Copperâs questions had nudged at doors that had remained closed for years now and Nala wanted to push. She wanted to be on the other side of the table, if she were even more honest. Because what else had they found out? What picture were they putting together with all their pieces?Â
Part of Nala wanted to open her mouth and tell Copp everything-everything-- all about Simbaâs accident in detail, at least, what she knew. That wasnât it really strange that Mufasa, even slightly drunk himself, would get in a car with a wasted Simba? Wasnât it strange that Simba would insist on driving in the first place? That Nala hadnât even seen Simba after heâd been taken aside...by Taka. Heâd disappeared after that.Â
And then, when he did turn up, Mufasa was dead, his arm was broken, and everything had changed.Â
The only problem was, if Nala did open her big mouth about all this, what if Simba got in more trouble? She couldnât get Simba in trouble. He didnât deserve it (even if he thought he did) and Kiara didnât deserve it. Berlioz didnât deserve it. So Nala kept her mouth shut about these details, knowing deep down that they were her puzzle pieces only.Â
She just needed to figure out how to fill in the rest of the gaps.
So Nala just shook her head and smiled small at Copper and Rajah. âNo, nothing springs to mind right now. But-- Iâll let you know if it does or if I think of anything,â she said. Or if I discover something else.Â
Nala stood up then, still smiling politely. âThanks so much Sheriff Russell, Deputy Patel.â












