Iām talking about Questionable Content, oh God what have I done
Questionable Content is an ongoing webcomic by Jeff Jacques, started in 2003 and updated once a day every weekday since he first started. Itās one of the biggest webcomics out there, certainly one of the longest running and it has an exceptionally passionate fanbase - myself included.
So Iām going to spend the next two and a half years of my life complaining about it.
Okay, thatās a tad facetious to say. I meant it when I said I was a QC fan. Maybe not as big today as I was a few years ago, but the fact is that itās been a part of my life for so long that I honestly canāt imagine a weekday passing without checking in on the ongoing lives of Marten, Faye, Dora, Hannelore and the other eight thousand and seven characters in the ongoing narrative.That may sound like a complaint but itās really not - one of Jeffās strongest points as a writer is how he makes his world feel properly lived in, and making damn near every character you see walking on the street have their own story that you can step in-line with them and watch unfold works to make the world feel real, feel properly lived in and populated.
Thatās not to say heās a flawless writer though, far from it. While he can make the world feel populated, he can have some of those characters drop off into the void of non-relevancy when heās grown tired of writing their stories. While heās fantastic at improvising a long-form story and making what were supposed to be one-off background characters feel important and fleshed out as if they were meant to be important the whole time, this comes at a cost of not much in the narrative being planned and it clearly showing. Jeff is an impassioned man who lets how he feels at times dictate the direction of certain characters and the plot at large - which is both the comicās strongest and weakest quality.
Ultimately, I like Questionable Content. Hell, I may go as far as to say I love it. But it also frustrates me, and nobody seems to want to really get down and dirty and discuss the comic itself. I see people gushing about pairings, I see people discussing Jeffās personal views expressed on Twitter, but aside from his small but passionate fanbase on the siteās own forum page (something thatās supremely well hidden in the site and youād only know is there if youāre actively looking for it), nobody really seems willing to give it the attention and deep thought I believe it deserves.
So thatās what Iāll be doing. Once a week for the next fuck-I-donāt-know-how-long, Iāll be taking QC, reading it and discussing its strengths, weaknesses and merits as a comic. 50 pages at a time, once a week, up until Iām caught up. Is this insane? Yes. Should I be doing this? No. Am I doing it anyway? You bet your ass I am.
Weāre starting tomorrow with the first fifty pages of Questionable Content. Be there. Tell me I suck. Send in your own thoughts and opinions as I make my way through this behemoth of a webcomic. Looking forward to seeing you there on the other side.
Oh, and one last thing - Iām very, acutely aware that Jeff Jacques isnāt a fan of people who over-analyze his work. He has been extremely vocal of this in the past. I highly doubt heāll ever find this, but if he does I have a very good feeling he wonāt be a fan.Ā
Jeff, if youāre reading this I have this to say to you: I donāt hate you, I donāt hate your work (as much as future posts may imply otherwise), and Iām certainly not here to criticize you as a person or your life. Iām going to criticize your work, and Iām sure as hell going to criticize you as an author, but you have my word Iām not going to step over the professional line to say youāre a shitty person because you drew the ha-ha pictures in a way that made me mad. Thatās stupid as hell and Iād never bring myself to that level.
...also jokeās on you if you hate me anyway because you can never hate me anymore than I already hate myself hahahahaaaaaaaaaah god i need therapy
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While Iām all for body positivity Dora, thatās kind of public nudity. Most cities tend to frown on that. Although this IS your personal business youāre doing this in⦠I wonder what the law for that is? Like, do you have to pay for a permit to allow public nudity in a location you own? Or do city laws take precedent?
ā¦Iām thinking about this too much, letās move on.
Hey, itās Raven again! Hi, Raven! And you thought I was kidding when I said the no-name character who showed up for all of one comic would come back as a regular character. This is part of the reason why I enjoy Jephās style ā he can, and does, very easily take bit players he made for a single gag or to fulfill one role and flesh them out if he thinks they can serve a purpose or if they entertain him enough. The most famous example of this will be roughly 2900 comics from now so⦠holy shit, I just realized Bubbles is 1000 comics old! Thatās crazy awesome!
Right. Sorry, some of you might not understand a word of what I just typed. Nevermind, moving right along.
Here we see the beginnings of Doraās next character arc, if youād like to call it that. I do have some questions about this as far as the in-universe time-scale goes, but Iāll touch on that later. Faye also invites Dora along to hang with her and Marten to indoctrinate her to the Hipster Lifestyle⢠to serve two purposes: First, that their relationship as a boss and employee is relaxed enough that theyāre comfortable doing this, telling us a lot about the way these two work together and the way this coffee shop is run without saying a lot. Second, this serves as the perfect in for Jeph to incorporate Dora into the main cast. From this point forward, Dora becomes a main secondary character, arguably a main character in her own right. The fact that she takes on a much more prominent role in this next batch of 50 comics and skyrockets to fourth-most frequent character is proof enough of that on its own, but weāll touch on all that when we get to the data analysis at the end of this post.
Back with Marten, Steve is encouraging him to apologize to Faye. He offers a⦠novel solution to keep Marten from being the center of attention.
Seriously, the sheer, raw confidence on this guy alone is attractive as hell. And Iām only mildly ashamed to admit that to myself!
I hope you understand why I donāt need to explain why I should, nay, must provide this panel without any other context.
Same deal with this one.
And this comic puts me into hysterics every time I read it. I swear, this isnāt going to devolve into me just posting comics and saying āthis is funnyā or whatever. I just really, really like this progression of events right here. I wish we could see more of this Marten more often in modern QC ā able to read a room quick enough to defuse the situation with absurdity or dry wit. It reminds us that, despite all evidence to the contrary, the boy does have a spine somewhere in that body.
And as immediate contrast, we jump here. This? This isnāt funny. This makes me not like Faye. This is actual abuse. And I know I talked about in the last post how including Faye retaliating against Marten physically and actually showing it happen in the comic rather than implying it with backfilling is the better method of storytelling but⦠Maybe itās because she created a visible bruise, maybe itās because of how candid she is about it, maybe itās because of my own personal fucked-up past relationships (which admittedly never got physical but still), but this feels infinitely different than the Faye Jeph is trying to set up. Heāll have to do a damn good job in later comics to win me back to thinking Fayeās a likable character again.
Also Dora is definitely a woman of her word. I hope the coffee shop was empty right then. Actually, I hope itās been a slow day from the point Faye started chasing her around with a dildo. Otherwise news might travel for all of the wrong reasons.
Faye tries to invite Dora over for festivities both as a friendly gesture because she expects her boss doesnāt get out much and because she wants to drag her from the dark abyss of Goth into the light of Hipster, only for her to turn the invitation down.
Not that itās going to deter Faye, of course. Also, QC is in wide screen now. I have NO idea how thatās going to be represented on Tumblr considering how narrow my current theme at the time of writing is. Maybe Iāll change it, I dunno, Iām shit with this sort of thing. If youāre reading this and the page doesnātlook like some faux notebook shit, I pulled myself together and fixed things. Go me.
Dora is being incredibly chill with this whole situation. Personally Iād be a hell of a lot more pissed. Although this does provide us with further insight to Fayeās character ā someone who sees her next step, bulrushes her way towards it and has zero plans where to go after that until she arrives at her destination. She is aggressive and decisive, but to a fault as she doesnāt ever seem to really plan ahead. Iād say this makes her the perfect foil to Marten as someone who plans obsessively but never has the spine to go forward with anything but⦠Marten doesnāt really do much future-planning himself. He obsesses over little things and gets stuck in his own head, but he never really seems to look any further than maybe next week. Hm⦠I want all of us to keep this in mind for an offhand comment like, 500 or 600 comics from now. Trust me, itāll make sense when we get to it.
And yet despite Fayeās self-assurance and aggressive nature, here she shows an outright refusal to accept or face the reality of the developing relationship between herself and Marten. Not just being coy, not just dancing around the issue, but straight-up not allowing herself to even consider whatās going down. Maybe Iām reading too much into this little exchange due to what I already know about her character, but this is an extremely unhealthy trait that speaks a lot to Fayeās character that she doesnāt want the world to see. Weāll be touching on this later.
I mostly like this comic for Marten and Pintsizeās reactions on the last panel. Marten makes a good straight man, and itās not often we see Pintsize share that role either.
Faye youāre really not helping your case right now. Although it is interesting how hard Faye is showcases how into him Dora is, considering she has her own feelings for him and I highly doubt sheād be 100% cool with the two of them going off to make out.
So here we establish Anthro PCs relationships with humans ā namely, theyāre basically glorified pets. Pets that have human-level sapience. Donāt worry, Jeph comes to understand the unfortunate implications of this as well, and he goes on to change this in future comics. And by āchange thisā I mean ācompletely re-incorporate how AI works in this universe and establish QC as a near-future sci-fi setting.ā But thatās not going to be for quite some time. For now, despite my poking fun at the horrific implications here, Jephās doing a good job taking the āfunny robot sidekickā thatās supposed to be in every webcomic and creating proper lore behind it, making it feel like it belongs in this world rather than be used as a comic relief character and only a comic relief character.
Granted the Anthro PCs as a collective are going to be used as just comic relief right now but, yāknow. Baby steps.
As said before, the fact that these guys are all fully sapient creatures makes the implications of this downright horrific. Also, thatās Ell. I have no idea if he ever comes back ā I donāt remember him coming back at all ā but Iām marking him down in the character statistics because heās named.
This⦠actually has some interesting implications. Marten mentions needing Steveās help with a date āthe other day.ā Does that mean he and Faye have known each other for an extremely short period of time? I highly doubt it, weāve seen a number of times the time has moved from day to night, and the comic itself certainly implies at least a few weeks have passed. So unless by āthe other dayā Marten means āa month agoā then Marten has been dating women on the side while Fayeās been staying with him. That⦠seems extremely out of character for him considering the circumstances weāve seen established in the comic thus far. Considering nothing else really comes from it and the fact if Marten was dating anyone on the side it would definitely be Dora, Iām going to go on the assumption Jeph simply made a mistake here and meant to say Marten was seeing someone a month or a few months back.
Sheās cut off by Pintsizeās destructive laser that heās using to assert himself as King among the Anthro PCs, donāt worry about it. What we should focus on instead is⦠well, this second panel here. On paper, this is really good. Weāre getting some insight to Fayeās character here, the cracks in her mask are showing. Weāre addressing the issue of her assaulting her friend and roommate, what she thinks about it, her current mindset and addressing that this is an actual problem. Sheās openly apologizing, sincere in her conviction and clearly wants to fix things.
The problem with this is of course the fact that this is rushed as fuck.
Part of this, of course, has to be the fact that Jephās comic by nature is married to the structure of a four-panel comic. We have to set up Fayeās conversation, allow her to continue, but due to narrative convenience she needs to be cut off before she can finish what sheās saying. So the laser cuts her off and after the panel of action, we follow-up and end with the punchline of Pintsize having been made King among the Anthro PCs. And I get it ā interrupt Faye before she can finish so you can keep the romantic ambiguity of āboys whom Iā¦ā Classic RomCom stuff. Problem is, this isnāt the time or place to do it. Keeping to the structure traps them into a situation where unfortunately Faye doesnāt have the breathing room to stretch this out and make it feel natural. This feels contrived from every angle and every sense of the word.
Easy way to fix this: Have this conversation take place while theyāre walking home. Establish she feels bad, have her bounce off Marten and have this conversation naturally. Then either you can have Pintsize cut her off at the end there or maybe even she stops herself when she realizes sheās saying too much. There are ways to make this feel natural. This isnāt natural. Still, credit where itās due, theyāre at least touching on this topic here. Part of me wonders if Jeph had, like, a mental map of where he wanted Fayeās character to go but because he writes these page-by-page it ended up stumbling along and falling flat. A written outline of events can, and does, REALLY help in situations like this.
Then again Iām giving writing advice to a version of someone who existed fifteen years ago. Iām sure heās got this all down himself nowadays, right?
Payoff to the previous comic.
Not only does this crack me up every time I read it, it also shows that Faye and Marten have gotten onto the same wavelength of humor. Theyāre also comfortable enough with each other that they can imply for a moment sexual favors before completely derailing the implication with the absurd. This is a far-cry from when Faye was trying to burn Marten with her mind back when Pintsize merely implied the two of them share a bed with each other.
Granted, it does kind of fly in the face of Fayeās reaction back at the LANPark. Still, good moment.
Speaking of Fayeās characterā¦
Here we have Fayeās explanation for why she hides her southern accent. Makes sense.
And here, her explanation as to why she doesnāt use contractions⦠Iāve already said my piece on why I feel this makes zero sense, letās move on.
And here we properly draw attention to Fayeās scar and establish the fact that her scar is a sore spot for her⦠was that a pun? It felt like a pun. Anyway, more and more itās becoming clear that despite her outgoing nature, Faye has a LOT she keeps close to her chest.
Okay now I know that one was a pun, Iām sorry.
Point being, thereās a lot to Fayeās character we havenāt found out yet, plenty yet to explore in future comics. And Iād also like to point out, this? This is an extremely natural way to establish things about Faye, right here. This feels like something that would actually come up in a conversation rather than planted there for the sake of the audience, and I appreciate that. That said, this in conjunction with the last few moments makes this feel more like itās time for Jeph to introduce and explain aspects of Fayeās character all at once, which deters a little bit from the natural feeling of this moment in particular. Or maybe Iām just being pedantic, I dunno. In a bubble, this comic works.
And here we get a flash of the personality weāll see in Raven in the future. Just a spark though, the flame hasnāt risen up quite yet. Also a little detail about Dora that⦠again, doesnāt quite make sense given the timescale Jeph has established. Iāll touch on it later in this post when we find out exactly how old Dora is.
This⦠is an aspect of Martenās personality that we never really touch on. Actually, this kind of goes toe-in-toe with his interest in Final Fantasy. Is Marten a fantasy buff? Does he enjoy escapist literature and media? Would he be super into Game of Thrones when it comes out as a series? These are questions that⦠unfortunately, donāt really get answered. I donāt know, I feel like these aspects of who Marten is ends up getting forgotten on the cutting room floor later on in the comic. Maybe they were only included as an off-handed joke, maybe Marten just developed as a character differently than what Jeph originally envisioned him as. Either way, these are parts of him that I think would be wonderful to bring back, especially with his current job and relationship in present-day coics.
Again, like a LOT of things Iām bringing up, weāll get to that later.
In case you forgot that Faye is genuinely interested in Marten, a reminder and an assertion: She isnāt justĀ interested in the skinny boy. Sheās got it bad for him.
But, like a lot of things involving her personal life and feelings, she openly refutes them ā not just to Dora but to herself.
Having gone out to give Dora a new look and indoctrinate her into the Cult of Hipster, Dora McPalerThanWhiteBread ends up sunburnt. Martenās home, he has the lotion, we all know where this is going.
Heaven holds a place for those who pray⦠I wanted to follow this up with a clip of Sonic from Tailsā story in Sonic Adventure saying āhey hey heyā but surprisingly enough, that particular soundbite isnāt available anywhere. There are plenty of Letās Plays that poke fun at it, but nothing with that line in particular.
Anyway, letās talk about time frames. Dora said she got into the whole goth and coven stuff in High School and only now gotten bored of it. Sheās 26. Letās be EXTRA generous and assume she got into it in Senior Year, and she graduated at 18. Thatās eight years this has been her life style, almost a third of her life. This wasnāt a phase, this was a genuine life style choice. Either Jeph got the timing wrong, or this is genuinely an identity crisis on Doraās part because seriously, when somethingās been a part of your life for so long I donāt blame you for not knowing where to go from there. Iām just surprised it took 8+ years for her to get sick of it. Then again, maybe thatās normal. I dunno, you can tell me if thatās a normal human thing. Iām literally autistic so I genuinely donāt know.
Setup⦠and also begging the question why you would give a libido to an AI, or how one would develop it naturally seeing as robots are incapable of sexual reproduction.
I havenāt really mentioned it until now, but Doraās like aggressively bi. I can dig it. Guys and gals are both pretty in their own ways.
Ignore the lack of color for a second, Jeph wrote up this comic when he had like zero time and couldnāt color it in before he uploaded. Again, we have the HINT of something that Fayeās on the cusp of admitting that says more about her character only to be cut off once again. This feels a bit more natural than the situation at the LANPark. Still contrived by nature of Jeph introducing a conflict to purposefully cut her off, but an understandable narrative contrivance.
Also, remember when I mentioned the joke about the government level laser would come back as an actual plot point? Did you think I was joking? No, here we have Agent Turing (I canāt tell if thatās clever or if I should roll my eyes at this) here to take Pintsize in, dismantle him and take the dangerous laser back.
Faye takes it well.
Can you guess what consequences she suffers from assaulting a government agent? Iāll give you a hint ā itās about the same as the consequences she suffered from burning down an apartment.
Payoff.
And finally, we round off this batch of comics with Fayeās expert lying skills to fool Agent Turingā¦
Ah yes. The ever-deadly Space Owls. Not nearly as scary as Space Bears, though! Theyāre horrifying!
ā¦not buying it? Yeah neither did my professors back in college.
As per usual, letās compare a panel from the first and last comics in the batch to see how Jephās art style has improved.
It looks like heās trying to get the proportions more⦠realistic? Theyāve moved from ācartoonsā to ācartoon versions of actual peopleā and itās⦠eh, alright I guess? Personally Iām more of a fan of the more cartoon-ish style in the beginning of this batch, but beauty and eyes of beholders and all.
So overall, what did I think of this batch of comics? Personally, I think the humor is improving dramatically, this batch had the most comics that had me laughing aloud so far. And bringing Dora further into the limelight was a smart move on Jephās part ā sheās just so likable, I want to see more of her. But as for the inter-personal conflicts⦠eh? It feels weaker than last batch. More is happening, progress is being made, but it feels⦠contrived. Artificial. It was the worst in the LANPark, but because that drew my eye I kept seeing every other piece of exposition as just that ā exposition. Maybe Iām biased, Iāll fully admit that. Iāll also admit that the bit about Fayeās chest-scar was a well done piece of exposition without feeling like exposition.
Faye is climbing up the ranks and getting closer to perfectly equal screentime with Marten across the whole series. Speaking of Faye, in this batch she pulled into first as the character in the most comics, the first time sheās been in more than Marten since the beginning. And Doraās been in so many this last batch, she jumped up to fourth-most reoccurring character juuust behind Pintsize.
Iāll catch you next week for the epic conclusion to the Pintsize laser saga! And yet more insight on Fayeās past ā hope you like ice cream! See you then.
The very first comic of Questionable Content, posted way back in 2003 and what would eventually be Jeff Jacquesā claim to fame, the reason why everyone remembers his name and what has made him a wealthy man today.
ā¦ās alright.
Of course, by modern standards itās not very good. This was the early 2000s, the wild west of online artists who had nothing more than an art creation software and a dream. The Webcomic Review has a VERY good post about it right here, which explains what the landscape of webcomics were like around this time and why exactly Marten has a pet robot (tl;dr, EVERYONE had a pet robot in ye early days of webcomics because Megatokyo).
But aside from the⦠awkward art, this comic at least serves to set up the protagonist (as far as weāre aware right now, weāll get into the roles of protagonists in QC later). Heās a lanky, assumedly average guy who hates where he is in life but doesnāt know what else to do or even where else to goā¦
ā¦as he goes on to spell out two comics later. Heās unassuming, not really much you can say for or against him, miserable and stuck in a rut in his life that heās too scared to escape. Sooo basically, freshly graduated college students ā the exact kind of audience a RomCom like this would go after.
Oh, did I forget to mention?
Yeah, QC started off as a RomCom.
This young woman is Faye, and she immediately cuts through the bullshit with an aggressive but to-the-point introduction of herself and her intentions.
While aggressive and to-the-point, sheās also set up as someone who meshes with Marten and Steveās interests well enough and quickly makes friends. This is probably best exemplified in the seventh page, which serves two purposes:
Purpose the First: Showcase Marten and Faye have a shared niche interest, immediately establishing chemistry between the two of them. Be it platonic or romantic, theyāre quickly hitting it off and, being a RomCom, will serve as the first rope potential shippers can grasp onto.
Purpose the Second: Jeff is a MASSIVE indie music nerd and he wants the fucking world to know it.
Also Pintsize is there doing funny robot things because 2003 webcomic.
Itās not long before this initial relationship is set up that two issues serve to sew the seeds of initial conflict:
This, likewise, serves two purposes: To show where Faye works and create a believable life for her to exist in when sheās not in the story with Marten, and as previously stated to sew potential romantic conflicts in the future. Jeff employs this tactic many-a-time throughout the course of Questionable Content, beginning a conflict and letting the implications sit with the reader while life goes on in the regular comics. Is this good writing? I honestly canāt say. Is it always done well? Oh good God no, some plot beats are outright dropped or left to sit for so long the reader straight-up forgets itās there with this method. But does Jeff make it work? Itās all on personal taste Iād say, but personally it sits well with me.
Also, for those of you wondering why it looks like the word āhumpā is just pasted onto the text bubble in post⦠well it was. The original comic implied sexual assault much more overtly, using the R-word instead of āhump.ā
*Away from mic* Wait, can-can I say [NOPE]? Better not to risk it? Alright, fair ānuff.
But yeah, this was pointed out by readers to be pretty fucked up and it was swiftly changed, for good reason.
Later that night, Faye asks Marten to dinner with her. Platonically, of course. And here I believe I should point out the dynamic of their relationship as it stands ā Faye is the aggressor. Marten is basically a doormat. Whenever something happens, Faye is always the instigator, be it going out to dinner or tagging along with him when heās getting shopping done. This will feed into their relationship dynamic and sets up a decent inter-personal conflict: Marten is far too passive to reach out to Faye and make the move to start something, but Faye, despite how openly and quickly she attaches herself to Martenās life, never takes that step into making it romantic. The two clearly have the hots for each other, but their respective personalities make it so neither one crosses that threshold.
Yes I know this is basic character writing for a RomCom 101, but the fact that so much about these characters are said in 12 four-panel comics says a lot. It hooks the reader quickly and gets them on the page Jeff wants them to be, and I respect that.
And in the next page, Fayeās aggression takes on a new level, albeit extremely briefly.
This is an isolated incident of actual physical aggression rather than implications and threats in these first 50 pages, but it becomes a trend as we go along ā one that feeds into Fayeās character, mind, so itās not just physical abuse for humorās sake ā so just keep it in mind as we go along.
Also on a personal note the actual restaurant they go to is simultaneously the worst and best idea Iāve ever heard of:
This is horrible. I should not encourage this. And yet some dark part of me finds the concept utterly hilarious even though I know Iām a piece of shit for liking it.
Actually, now some part of me wants to do the exact opposite ā advertise a place as a steakhouse only serve an all-vegan menu. It feels less mean but just as funny to me.
ā¦oh right, the comic.
After sharing dinner, exchanging banter that establishes good chemistry and parting ways, we come to this comic that Iām only showing because Iām a slut for good puns and I will take any and all opportunities to share with people.
(Pintsize totally won that round with the John the Baptist zinger by the way, if Iām allowed to judge this.)
And one page later, we get the biggest shake-up in the comic thus far:
Itās established Faye herself ended up burning down the apartment because she burnt toast, but thatās not really important. I know, the fact Faye BURNT DOWN A BUILDING isnāt important sounds completely ridiculous, but follow me here ā the important thing for this setup isnāt the how, but the why. āHow did Fayeās apartment burn down?ā isnāt the question Jeff, nor the audience, is intended to be asking, thatās merely a vessel into the situation weāre in ā the answer of āWhy did Fayeās apartment burn down?ā which is, of course, so Marten and Faye can become roommates and facilitate future antics and further their relationship. Familiarity breeds into both affection and conflict, and the obvious case of āWell you two are already living together, arenāt you?ā will serve to further the flames of their potential relationship with one another.
ā¦granted, a better reason to create this setup wouldāve been nice, and from a writing standpoint itās ridiculous that Faye never suffers any consequences for burning an entire BUILDING down, one that had many more people than just her in it. If present-day Jeff wrote this plotline⦠actually. Now that I think about it, Jeff DOES re-do this plot point and make it make a lot more sense and have a lot more impact on everyone involved.
But weāll get to that when we eventually talk about Brunā¦. Three thousand and something pages from now.
Either way, my point stands: This plot thread serves mostly to create the situation weāre facing now, one where Faye and Marten end up living together. This shake-up to the early comic settles us into the new status quo, one that weāll be riding with comfortably for the foreseeable future.
Further evidence of Fayeās aggressive and troll-ish nature⦠one that may or may not play into future revelations about her, now that I think about it.
Remember what I said about sewing the seeds of drama? Well here we stand now ā a misunderstanding, or the beginning of genuine conflict between these two?
The answer is⦠they talk it out like actual goddamn adults, avoiding a stupid, unnecessary fight.
Honestly? Kind of refreshing. But what makes it better is the following page:
Sure, there are other stories that do this better, Iām not denying that. But isolated in a bubble, this stands by itself and, frankly, works well enough for the story Jeffās telling.
Also say goodbye to Sara, once she walks out that door she goes to join the little sister from Family Matters and the big brother from Happy Days on the twisted Island of Irrelevancy, visiting the story only when she can spare the time to craft a raft out of banana leafs and... where was I going with this?
ā¦okay, personal story time. The Walmart Iām doing contract work for this week has a CD display of new-ish albums, and honest-to-God I completely forgot music CDs were even a THING. MP3s have spoiled us, and I now feel old for some reason.
Right, getting back on track.
I wanted to show this comic to establish three things.
1) Marten is the kind of person who sits on things that bother him and lets them stew for awhile. As established in the previous image I showed with Marten and Steve at the music store, itās been at least a day since what happened with Sara and Martenās still thinking about it. This, for better or worse, becomes a core part of Martenās character moving forward.
2) Faye, for all her faults, is a genuinely good friend who cares about Marten and knows when to channel her natural aggression into support rather than ribbing.
3) This is another comic that always makes me laugh whenever I read it. Yes I know thatās much less of a real reason than my other two points but let me have this dammit.
This particular page itself isnāt terribly important to the ongoing narrative but I wanted to include it because it introduces QCās unquestionably best character, Jim. Hi Jim! I like Jim.
(Heās a minor character at best but heās just so earnest and fun and every time Jeff brings him back he just gets better and better.)
Oh, and for those who were skeptical that the more-than-platonic interest was mutual between Marten and Faye, the next two issues serve to showcase that⦠yeah, both parties TOTALLY have the hots for each other.
The first of those two comics, by the way, gets called back to much later down the line. And the fact that Faye speaks in a southern accent is more than just a joke, itās going to be touched on more later.
Jeff says in the description of this comic that this is based on personal experience, and it shows ā this is the most backbone Marten displays to my memory.
And in the very next page, weāre introduced to a new character ā although you wouldnāt guess it from her appearance.
Thatās Raven. I like Raven. Her personality changes a ton once sheās properly introduced as a character and not a nameless employee, but for posterityās sake: Hereās her very first appearance in the comic.
Thereās only one more important comic to touch on in this batch of fifty, and itās about both Marten and Fayeās families:
While this could be as simple as a āhar-dee-har, my family drives me up the wall,ā this comic serves to say a lot about both characters once we know more about their families. Both Marten and Faye actually have very good reasons why they donāt want to see their respective families or go back to their hometowns⦠Faye especially so. Weāll touch more on that when we get more into her backstory.
Before we wrap things up, Iād like to do a quick comparison between page 1 and 50 to see in what small, subtle ways Jeffās artistry has improved:
Thereās not a LOT of difference, but the small details really showcases just how different they look. Small changes from the placement of everything on Martenās face, to the size of the eyes, the width of the eyebrows⦠Itās good shit.
Overall, what did I think of batch 1? Well⦠for an early 2000s webcomic, itās engaging. The characters are likable, the plot is progressing at an enjoyable pace, and Iām already on-board to see if Marten and Faye will get together. I mean, I know the answer, but my point stands.
Also because Iām a freak or something and like data compilation I went ahead and kept track of who showed up in what comic and made some numbers for it:
Not counting the one guest comic and two non-canon pages, Marten showed up in 45/50 pages, being in 90% of the comic so far.
Faye was in 38/50 pages, taking up 76% of the comic so far.
Pintsize comes in third place being in 15/50 comics, taking up a paltry 30% of the comic thus far when compared to the screen time Marten and Faye have taken up.
Likewise, Steve has been in only 8/50 pages, making up 16% of the comic up to this point.
Sara was in 5/50 pages, making up 10% of these first 50. That percentile will grow smaller and smaller with each update, believe you me.
Jim was in 2/50 glorious pages, making up 4% of the comic up to this point. And that was the best 4% this comic had to offer, let me tell you.
Raven, although still unnamed, Iām counting ā sheās in 1/50 of the first batch of pages, making up 2% of screen time.
Tune in next week as we continue onwards to pages 51-100 where weāll be introduced to the next major character in the series, whoās mere existence will further the plot more than anyone weāve previously met. See you then.
No Faye, it only looks that way because heās playing Final Fantasy X-2. Good God, I just realized that Final Fantasy X-2 is someoneās first experience with Final Fantasy. Thatās a depressing thought. Although someone starting out the series with Final Fantasy XIII is probably way worse, now that I think about it. At least X-2 had fun.
ā¦huh? Oh right, the comic. You sure youād rather not listen to me write an essay on Final Fantasy, instead? I have this great point about how Final Fantasy IX has the most emotionally impactful narrative but as a game it only really clicks with long-time players of⦠no? Okay fine, letās get back into QC.
The very next comic has Marten getting a tax return check for $1,100, and being the wise adult that he is, decides to spend that money on a new guitar. Tagging along, Faye brings up something that gives us new insight on her character:
And clearly didnāt bore her, considering how much of that information she retained. Here we have yet another example of a shared interest between these two, Marten clearly being into Guitars if heās invested enough to blow a fat wad of money on it and Faye carrying around quite a bit of information on the instrument herself. Iāve made the point in the last post, but to reiterate ā at this point in the comic, itās clear these two are clicking as far as interests go. They can keep up with each other, can and have provided support for one another, and challenge one another⦠okay granted that last one isnāt entirely true, itās clear Faye challenges Marten more than vice-versa, but still. There is a clear, acting relationship dynamic between these two, whether platonic or romantic. The reason why early QC works as well as it does is because these two have clear characters to them and their relationship FEELS real ā they feel like people youād know whoād really be friends ā or maybe more than friends. This is Jephās character writing at⦠well I hesitate to call it at its best because to imply he peaked as early as the 53rdĀ comic would be an insult to him as a writer, and Iām not looking to do that here.
Iām looking to do that a little bit later on in this part when we discuss Fayeās ācharacter quirk.ā
Before that however, weāre going to get a little bit on insight on Marten:
The story is elaborated on in a future comic, but here we get Martenās backstory ā traveling across the country for a girl, the relationship falling apart and leaving him stuck in this part of the country. This will go on to explain several of his character choices, including Pintsize (although thatās something weāre not going to approach until MUCH later on). It also further elaborates on Martenās character as a whole: He doesnāt make many active actions as a whole, but when he does, it tends to shift the entire dynamic of how he lives. He decided he wanted to follow this woman across the country, and that action ended up completely upending his life. Could this be part of the reason why Marten is so passive? Does he skew towards this lifestyle because heās been ātrainedā to take any kind of affirmative action as an intense, life-changing event?
While Iām not certain myself, and I have a damn good feeling Jeph wasnāt thinking that far ahead when writing Martenās character, itās an angle Iām willing to continue exploring as we further our journey down this comicās history.
This comic was written in 2003. Iām half-tempted to believe Meme culture can be tracked by indie bands now. Wonder if there was any zeitgeist with neo-nazi indie bands ten or fifteen years ago then, if that theory holds true?
ā¦I just made myself really, really sad.
Later on, Pintsize proceeds to eat a cake when he really shouldnāt ā again ā and we are gifted with⦠this lovely image.
Okay. I understand Pintsize is an AI, so it makes total sense for him to be able to be uploaded to a PC like this (ignoring for the moment modern commercial hardware canāt possibly support the resources necessary to maintain human-level sapience and ESPECIALLY not in 2003), but this is one of the freakiest fucking things Iāve seen from this comic. Mostly because at the time of writing weāre on comic 4000 and AI as a whole take an entirely different turn in the world of QC around that time, so⦠this is just kinda surreal to look at.
ā¦Weāll get to AI in regards to QCās universe later on when it becomes more relevant. Needless to say, it becomes one of the core āthemesā of the comic as a whole.
The narrative reason for this turn of events is simple:
Pintsize is now in a new visually appealing model, capable of moving his joints around so he can do more than just stand around and talk!
ā¦also one that has a horrifying government-level laser built into it! Believe it or not, this DOES become a relevant plot-point later and itās not just for the sake of a gag. This is a great example of Jeph taking a tiny detail he may have originally written in as a joke and building off it to create conflict⦠although Iāll be getting more into that later on when it actually DOES become relevant.
Pintsize agrees to turn the laser off, and a few comics later Marten and Steve go to the bar to discuss their lives ā specifically Martenās love life.
Further showcasing of Martenās passive nature and his straight-up lack of confidence.
Say goodbye to Sara everyone ā for real this time, Iām fairly certain this is the very last time we ever see her. I could be mistaken, but I highly doubt it. Plus, while we donāt see it in detail we get enough information to gleam Steve as Martenās exact opposite ā charming without being overwhelming, confident without being cocky. Steve is just straight-up a cool dude, and itās easy to see how he can easily get into relationships while Marten stays there floating along, too scared and/or passive to make the move that comes to Steve naturally.
Wait. Shit, I may have the hots for Steve. Abort, aboRT, ABOR-
Iām showing this in part to showcase the next point of conflict and also to draw attention to the new style Jeph is trying. Heāll do this throughout the run of QC, trying out brand-new styles to see what fits and what doesnāt. Iāll be including this in my comparison pictures at the very end of this post to give a clearer image of what changes and how he improves⦠although you can see even in this comic heās struggling against old habits as Martenās face in the final panel looks drastically different than in the rest, looking more akin to how he looked in older comics. Thatās okay! Habits die hard, itās worth applauding the fact that Jeph is trying. God knows I canāt draw to save my fucking life, so Iāll always support artists trying new things.
Iām mostly including this panel for two reasons: The fact that Fayeās stuck in the closet right now ā if you donāt get why thatās funny, you will in about 3700 comics from now ā and the way sheās talking. Do you notice something different about the āfeelā of Fayeās dialogue? Keep an eye on it, Iāll try to include more panels of her talking from this point onward.
Anyway, Marten dismantles the previously established conflict by revealing he managed to get Fayeās prescription for her and got her a new pair of glasses.
Mark this as the second time Faye has actually displayed real physical aggression against Marten.
Again, depending on how much you know about AI in QCās world from future comics this could either be a lot funnier or a hell of a lot less funny. Although⦠the subject of AI mortality would make for an EXTREMELY interesting plot point in more recent comics. Remind me to touch on that when we get further along.
Again: Pay attention to Fayeās dialogue in this comic, especially in that last panel. Youāre noticing it, arenāt you? The fact that she sounds a little⦠different? Give me a little more time, I promise Iāll touch on it a little later.
Hey, guess what? Itās later!
Faye does not punch Marten whenever she says something nice about him. In fact, she has ever only assaulted Marten twice ā both times for completely arbitrary reasons not related to her saying anything to or about Marten. Nor has Faye ever spoken completely without contractions, as you see sheās doing now. Later comics will go on to point out how odd it is that Faye only speaks with contractions when sheās drunk and dips into her southern accent⦠when weāve seen in previous comics that she is capable of speaking with contractions and talking like a normal human being. This change has shifted the entire āfeelā of every line of Fayeās dialogue, as she no longer āsoundsā like the Faye we started the comic with.
These are both examples of a writing mistake that a lot of long-form regular updating writers make, be it fanfiction or daily comics ā retcons. If youāre reading this, you most likely know what a retcon is. For the few of you that donāt, a retcon ā short for retroactive continuity ā is the practice of in later works of an ongoing series introducing a fact that changes what was previously established in previous works. This is most commonly seen in Superhero comics from Marvel and DC, but the kind of retcon Iām talking about is more common on smaller scale works, like fanfiction or unedited novels or ongoing RPs.
See, when the writer realizes they wanted to change up something, introduce a plot element that would require them to go back and change something previously to make it make sense and find that for whatever reason they canāt, they may go ahead and introduce the plot element anyway while assuring the reader that no, of course this element was always included. Thatās whatās happening here ā Jeph had an idea for a plot element he wants to include, realized he canāt exactly go back to older comics and change them considering itās a regularly updated webcomic, and so decided to retcon these facts by introducing them like theyāve always been a part of things and assert their truth while continuing on.
Not that I can necessarily blame the man ā in a situation like this, realizing thereās an important plot element that you want to work with but canāt due to you leaving it no room in what youāve previously published, thereās not much else you can do besides either retconning things or accepting you canāt introduce that plot element and just move on. However, there are other ways you can work with this that abide by previously established continuity and lets you introduce a plot element you want to introduce. For example, Faye punching Marten: You could introduce it as something she feels more comfortable doing the longer sheās around him. Have more frequent comics of her following saying something nice up with a punch, let us see her actually assault him more, and draw a correlation between her getting more comfortable around him and her getting more physically aggressive ā something Jeph does touch on later, so it is entirely possible to introduce this new dynamic without asserting things have happened that we clearly see havenāt happened.
ā¦as for Faye not speaking in contractions however, thatās just stupid. Itās a gimmick for her character, plain and simple, without adding anything to her as a character. If you want something big to showcase sheās keeping herself restrained, just continue as you were, having her speak in a southern accent when sheās drunk. That works as a fun gag to attach to her character without seeming like a dumb gimmick. And Iām sorry to say⦠this whole āFaye doesnāt speak in contractionsā thing? Itās a dumb gimmick.
Okay, now that Iāve gotten that all off my chest, letās introduce ourselves to the new main character of QCā¦
This is Dora, the owner of the Coffee Shop that Faye works at. Sheās a cool cat and (seemingly) supremely chill. Sheās introduced as another secondary character like Steve, but will swiftly become a mainstay character and join what will become a growing ensemble cast.
Also, potential conflict is seeded when itās revealed sheās totally crushing on Marten.
And if you doubt Fayeās assessment, letās hear it from the woman in question herself.
Also say hello to Doraās cat. The cat has a name, I just canāt remember it for the life of me considering the little fella joins Sara on that island eventually. But yeah, Dora DEFINITELY has the hots for Marten, sewing another potential seed for conflict later on ā Marten and Faye are certainly in the āwill they or wonāt they?ā phase, and here sits Fayeās own boss with a clear, vested interest in Marten. Will she make a move and push Faye to take action? Time will tell.
Jeph enjoys trolling his audience, and Marten is suffering because of it.
Dora goes on to establish herself in the readerās minds by having a clear, distinct personality that bounces off Fayeās beautifully. They banter so comfortably with one another it makes it so much fun to read, which goes on to make Dora a more appealing character to the reader. The more she talks, the more you want to see her because sheās such a genuinely charismatic individual⦠which can further serve to establish her as a very real conflict in the potential Marten and Faye relationship. After all, whatās a greater spanner in the works of this āwill they or wonāt they?ā relationship than a character who will gladly say āYeah, I willā that the audience likes enough that they are completely on-board with seeing go through?
The most dangerous thing to a romcom relationship is a third wheel that a good portion of the audience prefers over the teased relationship, and that creates good drama.
(Also Saraās name is spelled wrong but eh itās not like sheās around to complain anyway)
ā¦that said, Dora goes on to assure Faye that she has no intention of swiping Marten off his feet away from her when itās clear Fayeās interested in him. Then again⦠the more Faye insists sheās not interested in him, the more likely it may be that Dora believes her.
True story, I found this concept so funny that in a campaign I ran a few years ago, I actually had one of the players ā who was supposed to be stuck as a worker in a dreary 9-to-5 job that heād desperately want to escape to go onto adventure ā be labeled as the Office Bitch. My only regret is that I didnāt print out a real business card for his player. That either would have gotten a laugh from the table or gotten me punched.
This here is Scott, Martenās boss. Heās a cool dude, but for reasons that will become evident later on we donāt see very much of him. At first, I thought he was going to end up being the future husband of Martenās father ā and if you havenāt read through QC yourself that sentence will probably completely catch you flat-footed ā but looking it up later I found that Marten marries a man named Maurice, not Scott. I only thought they were the same person because theyāre both blonde and the art style changes so much later on anyone could look like anyone else.
Actually, fun fact: I started reading QC when 2512 was the most recent comic, so before she was introduced I thought Faye and Marigold were the same person because of how drastically the art style changed and I only recognized ācurvy white girl with glasses and brown hairā.
Anyway, Scottās pretty chill and⦠yeah. Yeah, thatās pretty much it. Heās a chill dude to work for, and thatās probably the only reason Marten hasnāt outright quit his job yet. The worst job in the world can be made tolerable with a good boss, and the best job in the world can be made unbearable with an awful boss.
Further evidence of the lack of contractions hurting the way Fayeās voice comes across than anything else. Seriously, is it just me or does this not sound like Faye? Like, at ALL? Iām open to being told Iām wrong, just⦠seriously.
Aaaand here we have Steve officially having broken up with Sara. Also, itās a small thing but like Iāve said, Iāll give Jeph credit where itās due ā that visible wince on Martenās face is the most expressive any of his characters have been thus far. Good work man, Iām happy to see you improving with your art!
After drinking together, Marten and Faye decide to go to an all-night diner for some drunken late-night pancakes when we get this bit of information from Faye:
That is Faye, if you can figure out which of the two Martens your fist will connect with. But yeah, the fact that Faye speaks in a southern drawl while intoxicated went from a joke to actual character ā sheās legitimately from Georgia and thatās her natural way of speaking. Which may raise the question to the reader, why does she repress that voice so much? Donāt worry ā they touch on it in later comics. For now though, another round of applause to Jeph for slowly and organically creating new information about his characters.
Faye is clearly not telling the whole story ā the lack of eye contact being a key indicator of just that. Still, weāre getting a little bit more information on her, and the fact that she kept her wording vague leaves a lot to still explore in her future. Needless to say⦠it was a LOT more than just her mother being over-protective that led her to moving up north.
Martenās just kind of accepted his lot in life by this point. Although when I was first reading through these I honestly thought this was going to be the headbutt-into-crotch moment.
Once again, if you havenāt read through QC yourself that sentence made zero sense to you. Iām kind of giggling at the thought of someone reading that and doing a double-take, actually.
Finally, we have the last comic of this batch, setting up a bit of conflict for our next batchā¦
Wuh-oh! Marten walked in on Faye changing! One really nice detail is that you can see the scar on Fayeās chest right there in the first panel, which means Jeph had a LOT of Fayeās backstory already planned out while he was drawing this stuff. Which just leaves me to wonder⦠how far back did he have this planned? When Faye first showed up in the third comic? When he had her start speaking in a southern accent while drunk? When he decided to have her stop speaking in contractions? Iād love to ask him, but I know for a fact he wouldnāt give me the time of day. Oh well, either way: Heās got shit planned out, shit that we wonāt see until Comic 500 or so, and thatās always good for a long-form comic like this.
Like last time, letās do some quick comparisons between the first comic of the batch, the comic where Jeph made a clear and active effort to change the art style, and the last comic of the batch:
It looks like Jeph found a happy medium between the style he was originally going for and the newer style he tried to incorporate, keeping the relative size and position of the charactersā facial features while rounding out everyoneās faces, making things much less angular than previously. The bodies are also beginning to get some real texture to them, looking closer to real human bodies than stick figures with a shirt.
Overall, what did I think about this batch of comics? Well aside from my complaints about Fayeās lack of using contractions and the sloppy way Jeph tried to incorporate that into the narrative, I thought it was better than the first batch! Marten and Faye are getting into a comfortable rhythm with each other, and weāre falling in-line with that rhythm ourselves. We just met a new character whoās going to be a mainstay of the series and in the few comics sheās shown up in, sheās made her presence stick with the reader. Even if I didnāt know how important Dora would become, Iād be saying Iām looking forward to seeing more of her.
You know what time it is now? Thatās riiiiiight! Data compilation time!
Between comics 51-100, the following charactersā proportional āscreen timeā as it were are as follows:
Marten: 46/50 ā 92%
Faye: 45/50 ā 90%
Pintsize: 12/50 ā 24%
Dora: 8/50 ā 16%
Steve: 6/50 ā 12%
Sara: 2/50 ā 4%
Scott: 2/50 ā 4%
Doraās Cat: 1/50 ā 2%
And the grand total of each characterās screentime, not including non-canon or guest comics, from most to least time shown:
Marten: 91/100 ā 91%
Faye: 83/100 ā 83%
Pintsize: 27/100 ā 27%
Steve: 14/100 ā 14%
Dora: 8/100 ā 8%
Sara: 7/100 ā 7%
Jim: 2/100 ā 2%
Scott: 2/100 ā 2%
Raven: 1/100 ā 1%
Doraās Cat: 1/100 ā 1%
Yes, Iām counting Doraās cat among the statistics. Iāll change the name when I learn what the critterās name actually is. Also, I was reminded that when the Secret Bakery becomes a thing later on in the comic there will be another character named Jim, with this particular construction worker being called Jimbo instead. Iāll change the name properly when heās called āJimboā proper in the comic, donāt worry. Iāll be doing my best to keep this list from getting confusing⦠itās in as much my best interest as yours seeing as I want to keep track of everyone properly.
Tune in next week when we see the exciting conclusion of this spicy āMarten happening to walk in on Faye undressingā drama! And Dora flashing someone. See you then.