#long rant

Seriously, this nonsense needs to stop. The whole Alastor is a hypocrite thing might have been funny when it started, but it has gotten completely out of control, and now people are repeating that line that "Alastor is just as bad as Vox when it comes to touching people" with complete seriousness. I saw someone make a video to prove this point against Alastor, and to make it come even close, it still wasn't, they had to include everyone that Alastor had ever touched in some way. However, let's take a look at the people whom Alastor touches. Not hits or pushes out of the way, which some people are including in order to muddy the waters, because Alastor is touch-averse and doesn't touch people that much.

Mimzy, who is his friend and therefore would not qualify as an unwanted touch.

Niffty, who actually initiates contact more than Alastor does.

Charlie is the person he touches the most and most of the time, she welcomes it. Alastor uses touch to manipulate Charlie because touch is Charlie's language. Touch is how he convinces her to trust him. He would not use touch on her if she disliked it because it would damage the whole trust-building process. He has also used touch to guide and empower her. To Charlie, Alastor touching her shows that he is willing to get closer to her. I have seen a lot of people showing Alastor touching Charlie in S01E05 without showing that her reaction to it was happiness. His touch was very appreciated in that episode. Even after the whole thing where he teleports into her bedroom and gets her to make a deal with him, she willingly takes his hand on the way to Cannibal Town. That whole thing he did also ended up getting her out of her depressive state and motivating her towards moving forward

Husk is the only person whom I would say that Alastor touches in a non-consensual way. However, he doesn't touch Husk like Vox touches him. He touches Husk like Rosie touches him, because that is where he learnt how to handle the souls he owns from. He doesn't consider Rosie a creep, so that would not apply here.

Those are the people Alastor touches in the show. This post does a good job of showing the difference between how Vox touches people and how Alastor touches people better than I can. My point is you can't just erase all context to claim that Alastor touches people just as much as Vox. Firstly, it's not true, and secondly, it completely downplays Vox's actions. Alastor is not the type to see himself as a victim or think of putting too much thought into what he allowed himself to be subjected to for his goals. This is as close as Alastor allowed himself to get to complaining about all the stalking, and being forced to watch Vox have sex, and yes, the non-stop touching. If you are not someone who is touch-repulsed, you cannot begin to understand how or why that continuous touching is genuinely the most annoying part. I expect Alastor to be even more reluctant to let people touch him after this season because he has been truly touched out.

okay biiig rant incoming but just spilling out all of my thoughts about byeast 15 and the fandom

(note, critiques of the update are fine! as long as you aren't blowing things out of proportion, spreading misinformation, or attacking/accusing people or the devs, feel free to say whatever you'd like!)

also sorry if this isn't coherent im writing this randomly late at night because I've been just feeling so bummed out lowkey also please please please don't feel obligated to agree with me on everything here it's mostly my opinion

i also do NOT think the writing was the greatest thing ever, but I don't think it was near horrible enough to solicit THIS reaction from the fandom (again disliking the episode and critiquing the writing is all fine! just DONT do the things I mentioned above) I thought that the writing WAS quite flawed, but people need to also realize that the story is FAR from over and still has many chances to cover plotlines that haven't been resolved or explained

and despite the flaws I really enjoyed the episode personally

okayy now to start

White Lily: blatantly, her death was NOT suicide, nor was it promoting or telling you to kill yourself if you've done horrible things

yes, she did this KNOWING she would die, but that doesn't mean she was doing it TO die?? like ive seen someone say, this is basically like saying any person who's went to war knowing there was a good chance of them dying on the battlefield or just sacrificed themself for another commit suicide

I don't believe the story was trying to say that death = freedom either

it was that lily sacrificed her own freedom to give freedom to others, and nilla saying that he hoped she could find peace and freedom after all she's done, not that sacrificing herself and dying WAS her only way to freedom

her death was pretty much unavoidable anyway, it was a long time coming and had already been heavily foreshadowed in the narrative

even if she hadn't gone the route she went in the story, she STILL would have died

if she didn't succeed in staying awake in the rift, she would've died there

if enchantress was killed by something or someone else, she would die because of that

only thing I can think of with her not dying is a villain winning ending

if she didn't go in the rift, enchantress wins and finds her but keeps her alive since they can't exist without each other and she has to face the fact that the freedom for all cookiekind failed, everyone is dead or going to be absorbed, and there's nothing she can do

and in that situation for something she COULD do is kill enchantress, which would still end up with her death

also, people are believing that someone actually commit because of something a random person said with no evidence on TWITTER of all platforms??

even if that IS true, that's not the company's fault, nor is it a reason to attack and wish death upon the writers and employees over a likely false rumor

odd plug but I just think hyperhimes and some people in the comments adress this well

alright, now

Spice, Sugar, and Flour's fates: okay guys

they technically are NOT dead, their bodies are but their souls are still in the living world, and inhabiting a vessel (shami)

while they don't seem to have full control over things, they are probably still conscious and aware through those eyes and may even be able to speak through shami like souls do with the ultimate cookie

they are also obviously still appearing within the story- the bug forms of them could even be taken hold of by their souls and technically make them living again, though that's just a thought rather than canon

just remember that this ISN'T the end of their arcs, likely far from it

the devs have stated that the beasts have later story importance and may have more backstory explored (dominion of the beasts was only a peek, not the full story, as specifically stated in this whole video , plus more things that people seem to be forgetting)

Silent Salt: i won't lie, im definitely not sure what they're going to do with him, but he's DEFINITELY still story important, shamil is literally doing all this mostly to cause him the utmost despair, even with other reasons as well that is a main focus, as stated by him in the text itself

he also still has his own bug form, so I doooo wonder what that'll be about, quite interested to see if it's perhaps shami's version of how he previously saw him or tweaked to how he wants to know salt

also

Shadow Milk: ough

even if devsis HAS milked shami, that is NOT what they were doing in this story

he's always been set up, foreshadowed, and portrayed as a main villain and focus, I know i already talked about this but hjmbsn

the story has also been planned out for years, they wouldn't have pulled this out on a whim and change the lore entirely in a single year just because he got popular

his character and even some things about his arc had been foreshadowed before he even showed up as an npc anyways??

he's MEANT to be in the spotlight, he's MEANT to be a focus, and he always has been?? even before he was nearly as popular before he was now he was in two separate updates (theater of lies and wind archer's story whatever it was called again) and displayed as important

this has ALLLLWAAYYS been the case guys, don't blame the devs for just portraying his character how he's meant to be portrayed

the direction his story is going in also just makes the most sense- he's been betrayed and lied to about his entire life in his eyes, and is now also infused with countless other souls?? why SHOULDN'T he have gone insane??

i would go into more depth but I already talked about this and this rant is already ridiculously long

another thing- when they DO milk him, why shouldn't they?? they have high effort updates EVERY MONTH and have over 1000 employees to pay with a game that is FREE TO PLAY AND DOWNLOAD

if a character gets them extra money, why SHOULDN'T they use that to their advantage?? of course corporate greed comes into play as well but they NEED this money to keep content coming out so quickly

Sugar Swan: could this have been handled better? yes! but does that make it the most awful thing ever? no!

while I do think she could've gotten her own update she'll DEFINITELY have more story importance, this isn't the end of her dudes

also people seem to not realize that ovenbreak characters that come to kingdom do not HAVE to have the same personality/story down to the point

crob and crk take place in completely different timelines with different events and different characters- it would be more boring if they were just copy pasted exactly from their initial appearance other than having voice acting now

I don't really have much to say but I will repeat something else I've said that annoys me

cookie run players are extremely contradictory of themselves

before the update, everyone was BEGGING that sugar swan wasn't just an overpowered deus ex machina that saved the day, and then were angry when she WASN'T that after the update?? huh???

it's not just that though, they literally find a way to complain about anything and everything even if it was what they previously asked for

Ultimate Cookie: while this isn't really a debate in the fandom compared to the other things, a lot of people feel that their appearance was cut short and that they should be more important and just ???

they're most definitely not gone from the story, did you all just collectively miss THIS???

while I don't know what exactly will happen with TUC, they will have more importance

Timekeeper Cookie: just going to say that jesus christ guys her not smiling in two different frames does not make immediate mischaracterization

it's likely either for shock effect, more expression in the animation, or just to show how serious this whole situation is

dealing with shami isn't going to just be a walk in the park dude teeper had already been worried and preparing for this in ovenbreak

i WILL say that my previous statement about ovenbreak characters not being the same in kingdom does not apply to this entirely, they can change her up a bit but hopefully not too much since this timekeeper is the same one as the one in ovenbreak rather than one from a different timeline

this may even give us more insight on teeper backstory considering that guys

I think that the four most recent Flavor Foley songs aren't only about change. I've seen many people talk about how Static, Spoken For, Human and Ego Renegade Boy are all respectively about needing stagnation, needing change, willing to change and already having been changed. I think that this isn't the only motif connecting these songs, though - they are also about how we depend on other people's perceptions about ourselves.

First of all (and one of the most obvious ones in that regard), Static. Miku desperately needs attention, needs the constant human connection, because her entire existence is dependent on her being perceived by others. She constantly addresses the listener - aka the one who is watching the show - begging them to keep watching, to look at her, to stay. She’s terrified of disappearing, which I think refers either to the fact she's alive only when the tv is on or to her show getting cancelled if people don't watch it. Therefore her existence depends on other's perception.

Secondly, Spoken For. This song is pretty much the opposite to Static: where Miku loves and needs the attention, Teto absolutely hates it. None of her decisions are her own because of the fact she relies on her fans’ perceptions. She puts on a mask that was forced onto her by other people. She's failed to even be human now - only a blank slate that you can turn into anything you want. She hates her status, she doesn't know what she is under all the masks, she only knows that the pressure she's put under causes her suffering. She's begging for help, once again relying on someone else, this time hoping they’re merciful, and not trying to force her to be what they want. Her entire identity is based on how she's perceived.

Now we have something a bit less obvious - Human. Miki sings about being a robot and wanting to become human, but how does outward perception come into play here? Well, Miki is basing her own humanity on what she’s learned from other people, she keeps asking if what she’s doing and feeling is human. She relies on how she herself perceives humanity and how others will perceive her when she acts on what she's learned.

Lastly, Ego Renegade Boy. Len is seen as a killer, despite simply living his truth. He's also kind of an outlier among Miku, Teto and Miki: unlike them, he doesn't rely on perception, instead disputing it or just not giving a fuck. He's basically saying that the people who accuse him of killing his past self and still perceive him as Rin are just wrong and he won't entertain their wants just to appease them. He breaks the mould, showing that you don't have to reply on other's opinion about you to create your own identity.

theres. a COUPLE headcanons involved!! and just to note these werent my final designs (aside from Rhys oh RHYS UGH HES SO PERFECT) cough ehm but yes. expect some more future daemos boys art, eventually.. some tidbits (rambling) under the cut about the designs + headcanons and analysis C:

huge rant underneath btw. i went.. a little wild..

I saw a comment on YouTube that said "One of them is a narcissist with serial-Killer tendencies, and the other is a serial-killer with narcissistic tendencies ." And thats very spot on for my interpretation. The biggest difference is why they did what they did.

This is going to get very, very long, so im putting it under a read more

like OH MY FUCKING GOD IS IT THAT HARD TO USE A FUCKING PRONOUN😭😭 god forbid someone doesn't fit into your perfect box of what queer is in a COMMUNITY WHERE THE WHOLE POINT IS TO NOT FIT INTO A FUCKING BOX

Am I the only one who's getting pissed at all the systems who are attacking folk- primarily Fictionkin- for using terms? And adding onto that, that are just complete dicks to Fictionkin folk? (This is pretty much a rant ,, also probably gonna be made into a video by me, so yk stay tuned)

. . . "Section one: Terms" ! !

Like "source." Because buddy im not going to hold your hand when I tell you this but, 'source' isnt a system exclusive fucking term. Source means from which something comes from, please learn basic English. Source can be used for fucking anything, by anyone, for any reason, as long as 'from which is comes from' is how theyre using it.

And dont get me started on "past memories" because oh my good fucking gods, YOU DO NOT OWN PAST MEMORIES. Past memories means past fucking memories ,, memories that someone has from the past, shocker.

"Doubles" buddy. Buddy. Buddy. Buddy shut up. Doubles mean 2 of the same thing, which yet again isn't system exclusive.

"Source mates" FOR FUCKS SAKE. We already went over source so ill explain mates; mates meaning 'close with one another.' ,, just because you slapped 2 words together- both of which you dont own- doesn't mean that you own the god damn term.

. . . "Section two: Being Rude to Folk " ! !

"Can I use we/us pronouns?" "Why would you need to?" Oh buddy. Where to start with this... YOU DONT AND CANT OWN PRONOUNS. Like ehhh??? Anyone can use we/us if they want to, system or not ,, you cant own things like fuckin pronouns. "But theyre not plural so why would they need to use them!" Oh my good gods, because they can?? Maybe they feel more comfortable that way, maybe they feel less alone when they say it, maybe BECAUSE ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS?

"I never understand why Fictionkin need to track "shifts" Not shifts in quotation marks ,, Im gonna guess thats because they think shifts are just a knockoff for fronting, but im gonna hold you hand and say ... Its not. And they wanna track shifts because they can?? Is it harming you? Is it hurting anyone? Is it taking away precious resources? No? Then shut up.

"But Fictionkin is just fictives." No?? The clear difference being Fictionkin dont have multiple personalities, but identify as something. If you can see the clear difference in that then its your own fault.

. . . "Section Three: Systems invaliding Fictionkin folk" ! !

(Im not typing all that out) Oh so we're invaliding folk now? That great. No, not all Fictionkin are systems who are mislabeled, and you saying that is extremely invaliding but also just fucking rude. Theres a very clear difference between Fictionkin and systems, but people never care to learn the difference. The difference being: Fictionkin identify as a fictional character or species. Systems being folk who have experienced trauma at a young age to where they didn't form one sense of self/personality, so now have 2 or more identities.

(Also not typing all that out) Buddy, so many people believe in past lives and reincarnation, just because someone past life is fictional that doesn't mean you get the right to invalidate in and say it isn't real? This is literally just a Dick move. "But its fictional!" WHO CARES. 60-90% of Fictionkin who believe in past lives believe their identity because of the multiverse ,, amd I swear to gods if Yall start to try and hate on people who believe in the multiverse oh my gods.

(Not typing it out .. These are long ok) Ableism I see, ok. Oh no, im not going to gloss over how this is completely ableist, no. Calling people delusional is ableist. It harms folk who do have delusions and demonizes them for having said delusions. But let me also say you cant diagnose folk through the internet just by one thing, thats not how it works. As someone who activity has delusional theres more to it then just one thing ,, but just identifying as a character isn't even a delusion.

. . . "Section four: Fictionkin invading system spaces" ! !

"Fictionkin shouldn't/cant use simply plural." Ignoring that simply plural is shutting down ,, yes? They can?? Simply literally has an opinion to say youre no a system. "But its a system space" its a logging app. 'System' apps are usually the only apps that have what Fictionkin (and otherkin folk) need to keep track of their kins ,, as far as im aware theres no apps made specifically for Fictionkin, and even if there was i can practically guarantee that systems would take it over and use it as their own, because it would work pretty- if not identical- to system apps. "Just use google docs or something" you are literally spitting anti system phrases. Same reason why systems use simply plural instead of google docs; too many, too much. So get over it.

"Fictionkin are invading system discord servers" this point does have some marite behind it, but its not sound. Many Fictionkin join system servers because get this ... Many system servers are advertised as Fictionkin welcoming/safe ,, theyre Fictionkin servers too.

And lastly for this point: very few Fictionkin are actually joining system spaces ,, and even the few that are that doesn't mean the majority are. All you do when you say Fictionkin are invading system spaces is demonizes Fictionkin and hurt the folk who havent done anything.

If youre a system (or just someone) who genuinely thinks like this please please please for the love of gods tell me why, because I can not wrap my head around this.

Extra screen shots of things I didnt care to respond directly to/already basically covered under cut