Podcast: Parents, Your Kids Will Love What You LoveāSo Love the Bible (William Osborne)
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Podcast: Parents, Your Kids Will Love What You LoveāSo Love the Bible (William Osborne)
Podcast: Parents, Your Kids Will Love What You LoveāSo Love the Bible (William Osborne)
This article is part of the The Crossway Podcast series.
Helping Our Kids Love the Bible
In todayās episode, Rusty Osborne explains how he has sought to model a genuine love for God in front of his kids, shares stories of hard moments heās faced as a parent, and offers advice on how to answer your kids when they say things like āthe Bible is boring.ā
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Topics Addressed in This Interview:
What If My Kid Says That the Bible Is Boring?
What If My Kid Says That the Bible Is Confusing?
What If My Kid Says That the Bible Seems Unbelievable?
00:55 ā The Role of a Parent
Matt Tully
Rusty, thank you so much for joining me today on The Crossway Podcast.
Rusty Osborne
Yeah, Matt, itās great to be here. I appreciate you taking the time and getting a chance to talk about some important things.
Matt Tully
As Christian parentsāyouāre a parent, and Iām a parentāwe all want to help our kids come to a saving faith in Christ. We want to help them grow in their love for God, and we want to help them grow in their understanding of Godās word. And yet I think sometimes as parents, especially with young kids but Iām sure this continues as the kids get older, too, we might not always know what thatās going to look like and what that should look like. This can be true especially as our kids are growing and changing all the time and our family lives are getting more full and more busy and maybe even chaotic sometimes. It just seems like sometimes weāre at a loss as parents for how do I actually serve my kids in helping them to understand Godās truth and come to love God for who he is? To start us off, have you ever felt that way as a parent? Is that an experience that you can resonate with?
Rusty Osborne
Absolutely. I think anyone who is raising children in the 21st century has felt the pressure of time and busyness weigh down on your family. As kids get older, they tend to get busier. We currently have four children: sixteen, fifteen, twelve, and eight. And so weāve kind of walked through a lot. Weāre not out of the parenting process yet. Weāre still kind of in the throes of it right now.
Matt Tully
In the middle of it.
Rusty Osborne
But with our sixteen-year-old, we remember what it was like to have one child, and looking back on that, things seemed so slow and so peaceful. As our girls have gotten older and have gotten involved in high school events and extracurriculars and sports, and then the boys come along and they have their things, itās very easy to go from Monday to Friday in todayās family without seeing your children, without engaging with them in any meaningful way, and certainly without talking to them about the importance of the Bible or even thinking about how the Bible impacts their day-to-day life. So, we have definitely felt that, we have wrestled with that, and continue to do so. So, Iām happy to talk about this. It is a topic thatās near and dear to me as a Christian parent, but certainly my comments donāt come from a place of having arrived or figured it all out. We are still evaluating week by week saying, That seemed to work. That was a failure. Weāre trying new things as we go along.
Matt Tully
Itās kind of sobering, to be honest, to hear you talk about how busy your kidsā lives get as they get older and into those teen years. Iām a parent of young kidsāyounger than yoursāand sometimes for us it can feel like our whole lives revolve around our kids, conversations with our kids, and helping them get their breakfast and get dressed and get out the door. It can be easy to take for granted all that face-to-face time that we have with them where we are talking to them about all kinds of things. Is that something that youāve noticed? Is there a sense that you wish you could go back to those earlier years when you had more of their attention?
Rusty Osborne
I think that as I reflect on how I parented my oldest child versus how weāre engaging with our youngest child, there are some significant differences. But I told somebody one time that if I parented my first child the way that I now think about my fourth child, I probably wouldāve just been a bad parent, because thereās a process that you go through as a parent. Youāre learning how to engage kids, learning how they develop in different ways, and you yourself are developing through that process. And so I look back at the first years that we had kids and I just remember, as I reflect, I feel like I was in a very neurotic space, if that makes any sense. I was very super concerned about messing things up. That was in a way that I think is absolutely natural and in a way that follows what good parents do. Good parents love their kids. They want to do everything right. They donāt want to mess them up. So I think thatās a natural developmental space for young parents to have a little bit of that anxiety built around the thought of I donāt want to mess this kid up. Iāve got this huge role to play. All of thatās true. But as time goes on and you see that kid grow and you see those developmental changes happen, you start to see perhaps I had less and less to do with those developmental changes, and you start to get a little bit better idea of what your actual role is in this relationship in a way that now, four kids later, I feel like weāre much calmer as parents. I donāt feel like thatās attributed to laxity. I donāt think weāve become lazy. I think weāve just become more aware of when we need to engage and when we donāt need to engage, and just having different perspectives as those days go on. But thereās a little bit of a mourning process as you see your kids get older. My second daughter is fifteen, and thirteen through fifteen Iāve been a little sad at times. Iām like My buddyās gone! Weāre off to high school and weāre doing volleyball and basketball. She loves sports, and I love that she loves it, but it means I get less time with her, and thereās part of me thatās sad about that. But then also trying to think how do I push into this new stage of life and be a meaningful father? I donāt need to do the same things that I did when she was six. Thatās not what she needs. So how do I transition with her into these years in helping her love God, love Godās word, holding her accountable in important ways, but walking with her through the good times and the bad times, and helping both of us grow as she gets older? A lot of those different perspectives I think develop over time as you see your kids grow and you have to think about what role do I have? Do I miss those days? Yes, but you love what they become in the process as well.
Matt Tully
You mentioned the word āroleā a couple times and the challenge that we can feel as parents in discerning what our role should be in our kidsā lives and in their development on all kinds of fronts. I want to ask that question in regards to when it comes to helping them develop a love for the Bible. Big picture speaking, how do you view our role as parents when it comes to teaching them to love Godās word and to then actually want to develop habits related to Godās word?
Rusty Osborne
The one thing that has been true in our family, with regard to everything, is that our kids, by and large, love what my wife and I love. I grew up in North Carolina. Iām a Duke basketball fan. My kids love Duke basketball. We did not go through a discipleship program in how to teach them to love Duke basketball. I have been a fly fisherman my whole life. All four of my kids fly fish. I love working with and training pointing dogs. My boys are walking right beside me in the field, and they love the dogs as much as I do. There are so many things about our family that my kids love, and we never made them do it. It was never a regimented exercise, but they went, Mom and dad love this, and I want to know why they love it, and I want to explore this more fully, and I want to get to the bottom of this. But all that to say is that I think thereās an element of that that ties into how we introduce them to the Bible and introduce them to the Lord. First and foremost, our role as parents, I think, is to love God and to love Godās word. Eugene Peterson says, in talking about teenagers, he says theyāre hypocrite alarms. They can smell a hypocrite a mile away, and the alarm goes off. And so thereās a part of parenting that just ups the ante on us as Christians that says Are you in love with the Lord? Do you love Scripture? Thatās the big part. And I think that when I think about the parents that I witness and the friends and the relationships I have where I see parents who have parented wellānot perfectly, but parented wellāI think these are people who love the Lord deeply, and they love his word. And that, I think, is the first place that we begin as parents is we have to say, This starts with me. What are the deep desires of my heart? My kids are going to see that and theyāre going to love those things. But I think as parents, we have to always begin to say, Are we leading by loving, or are we leading by instructing? Itās not that theyāre either/or, but both have to be present, I think, for our kids to genuinely follow us in a real encounter with the living God.
Matt Tully
When it comes to this topic of discipling our kids and helping them read the Bible and all of this, so often our mind does go to I need the didactic program. I need the materials, the training resources, the books. All of these can be so helpful and good, but we think in terms of teaching them rather than modeling it. Would you say itās fair to say that what youāre getting at is that maybe a love for the Bible is more often caught than itās taught? Is that a way to think about this?
Rusty Osborne
Yeah, I think so. I am a college professor by trade, so I think about pedagogy, I think about learning strategies, and I think about teaching strategies a lot. Over the last few years Iāve been highly influenced by works like James K. A. Smith and othersā thinking about how we learn and how we process and how weāre formed spiritually and intellectually. And thatās impacted the way that I parent. I think about things like liturgy and structure, not just whatās the content that Iām giving my kids, but what are the inherent rhythms and liturgies of our home that are also communicating values to my children? What are the things that we repeat over and over again, and what is that telling them? I think that moves us more toward the language of caught, not taught. Now, again, I donāt think itās an either/or. In thinking about the program and the method, the 20th century was the century of method. Everyone wanted the strategy and method: Give me the program. But programs exercised without wisdom can do just as much damage as not even having a program. When you develop a strategy or a program and youāre not being observant as to Is it working? Does it need to be tweaked? When do we stop? When do we start?āa program doesnāt substitute wisdom. I think sometimes that can happen if we go, Well, if I just get the right strategy from the right person, then I can put this parenting thing on autopilot, and my kidās going to turn out great. And thatās just not how human beings work. Developing a human being is a very inefficient process. Weāre not making widgets when we are raising kids; weāre engaging with complex image bearers with all kinds of capacities, with different skills, different abilities, different responses; and thank the Lord that God has equipped us with the ability to react and observe and respond to those things. So, I think a lot of parenting for me has moved away from trying to find just the right tool or the right method or the right strategy, but to start saying How do I engage in this moment? How do we respond in this situation? How do we steer toward wisdom and righteousness in this situation?*
Matt Tully
Youāve painted a big picture about the heart disposition of us as parents and how that is going to then influence how we lead our children to love Godās word as well. Maybe answer the opposite side of that question: What should we not do in an effort to try to teach our kids to love the Bible?
Rusty Osborne
Thatās a great question, and Iām still learning answers to this question. I think some things that we have to be careful about are, like I said, I think we need to first off be careful about comparing our parental strategy and game plan to the people around us. Hopefully, if youāre a Christian then youāre living in Christian community and there are other parents doing things. I think thereās a real temptation for young parents to look around and try to go, Okay, well theyāre doing this and theyāre doing this and theyāre doing this . . . and to begin to evaluate whether my parenting is doing the right thing or the wrong thing based on what I see from other people. I think that can be very problematic and very discouraging and unhelpful. Comparison is always going to be a problem, but also comparison can lead you to start being unkind to your own children, because it encourages you to stop seeing your child as a unique individual, as someone whoās going to have different ways of learning, different modes of responding, and different experiences that, frankly, other children may not have. Weāve seen that with our four kids. We only have four children, but within those four children we have a very broad range of learning ability, of reading ability, of emotional responses. I think weāve had to adjust as parents to go, Okay, what was effective in helping our oldest child grow in understanding the knowledge of the Bible is highly ineffective in helping our third child grow in understanding and knowing God through the Bible. So, I think the first thing we have to be careful of is to not short circuit parenting by just looking around and comparing to what everybody else is doing. I think another thing we need to be careful about doing with the Bible is I think we need to be careful how we incorporate the Bible into discipline scenarios. I know that there are a lot of people who would encourage that if a child does something wrong, then we sit them down and then we point them to the the Bible verse where it explains what theyāve done wrong and walk them through that. And I think there certainly can be a place for that, but I think we also need to be really careful not to create this very negative association with a young child who thinks, Every time I get in trouble, I get sat down, then here comes the Bible. The end. It doesnāt take long for a young mind and heart to begin to associate this book with a heavy-handed punishment. And Iām not saying that we donāt talk about it, but maybe we just try to evaluate Am I allowing distance between addressing a behavior or a problem, and then talking about it from a biblical framework? Maybe itās a five year old who has colored on the wall or something. Itās addressing the behavior, and then maybe a few hours later after the tears have been shed, after the hard work of parenting has been done, maybe itās coming back and talking about Is that the way that God wants us to live? When we were doing that, do you think thatās the desire? Maybe allowing some distance between that, because it is easy for kids to begin to make that association, to start to see God as the one whoās the justification for my punishments in a way that perhaps we just need to be careful about how we incorporate the Bible into discipline. Not that judgment is not a reality, but I also would hate to think that Iāve taught my children to see the Bible and go Oh, thatās the book that comes with the gavel. Thatās the book that comes with the punishment. I would say No, this is the book that comes with the remedy. This is the book that comes with the solution and the healing. And so trying to think about how to engage in those ways. And likewise, I think also being careful with how we force the Bible into the lives of our children. I think there are places where we want to encourage accountability. We can build structure into a kidās life, but I think this is where we have to, as parents, start to read Am I beginning to push so hard that Iām starting to see a negative response to the Bible and no longer a positive one? And that can come with saying Well, we have these Bible verses and weāre going to memorize them and if you donāt get it done, then youāre not going to summer camp. Or If you donāt get these Bible verses memorized, no basketball practice. I think that can start to backfire in cultivating a love for the Bible. At the end of the day, we want our children to love Godās word. We donāt want them to read a Bible verse and make a face like they were just given a cup full of medicine. We want them to cherish it because the day is quickly coming when youāre not be there to spoonfeed for them whatās good for them. As one who is already looking at colleges for my oldest, itās mind blowing. Iām going In a year and a half, sheās going to read her Bible because she wants to, not because of me. How, oh God, can I help cultivate that desire that when sheās nineteen and lifeās falling apart in her first semester of college, she goes, āI want to turn to my Bibleā instead of a podcast, instead of a friend, instead of all of these other voices in the culture that will tell her what to do? How can I encourage her to say, āThis is a word thatās good for youāāso that she spends the rest of her life pursuing it?
20:03 ā What If My Kid Says That the Bible Is Boring?
Matt Tully
Thatās so good and so helpful. Iām just struck by how, as weāve said before, thereās not a program here. Thereās not a āfive tips to successā kind of dynamic to this. This is years of cultivating a way of thinking, a way of livingāhopefully primarily through seeing it in us as parents that has this effect. I wonder if now you could respond to a few more specific kinds of statements that we would hear from our kids. I kind of view this as a bunch of what if statements that parents might sometimes worry about. Theyāre waiting for their kid to come back to them with something like this related to the Bible, and they just feel like I donāt know how I would respond to these things. The first one would be What if my kid says that the Bible is boring? How would you counsel parents, briefly, to respond to that?
Rusty Osborne
Thatās a great point, and itās certainly something I have heard in my life as a dad. I get that about church. Itās not uncommon for us to have a conversation about how church is just boring. One of the things that we have tried to encourage with our kidsāfirst off, let me make a statement about that word āboring.ā I think that in many ways, the missing ingredient of childhood today is boredom. We frequently tell our kids, if they say theyāre bored, weāll say Thatās completely fine. Your lifeā
Matt Tully
Iām sure they love to hear that!
Rusty Osborne
Your life is going to be just fine. You have a good mind. You have lots of resources in this house. Go not be bored. Youāre going to be just fine. Boredom leads to creativity. Figure it out. and so theyāve heard us multiple times say Boredomās not that big of a deal. And so when they come to me and they go, Oh, reading the Bibleās boring or church is boring, Iāll come back to them and say, Well, thatās okay. There are a lot of important things that we do in life that we donāt do for the sake of entertainment. We are in this community and weāre in this room gathered with these people because something very important is happening. Itās okay that you donāt register the importance of that now. Thatās perfectly fine, and if youāre a little bored, Iām okay with that and youāre going to be okay with that. And I think what we try to do is point them to the transcendent importance of what theyāre doing in that moment. That helps them begin to cultivate a spirit that goes Iām not a Christian because itās meeting my immediate need right now. Iām building a sense of the Christian faith that flows out of ideas that are more like loyalty and allegiance and faithfulness than immediate satisfaction. I donāt just read my Bible because it makes me feel better. I read my Bible because itās good for me, and thatās the way that I respond to the God of the universe who has spoken. And so I think in those moments, and again, thatās not a heavy-handed discussion. Weāre just trying to gently guide them into saying, Hey, itās okay if youāre bored. I think we need to try to create a positive environment around the Bible. If a kid comes to me in a family worship context or a Bible-reading context like that in my house, Iām going Okay, am I maybe pushing too hard? Am I asking them to perhaps do more than theyāre ready to do? So if I tell my eight year old that over summer vacation you canāt go play outside until youāve read your Bible for twenty minutes, and he comes in and goes Itās so boring! I hate that! Part of me might step back and go Okay. Am I pushing that too hard? Do I need to reevaluate? How can I navigate that? So I think depending on the context we can think about how we might want to adjust or shepherd them through that feeling. But at the end of the day, itās completely fine if theyāre bored, and itās completely fine if they donāt see the importance of whatās going on, as long as they know that we know why itās important and whatās going on.
24:10 ā What If My Kid Says That the Bible Is Confusing?
Matt Tully
Hereās another what if statement that we might receive: What if my kid says the Bible is confusing?
Rusty Osborne
Well, I think as a parent I would say Youāre right. At times it is difficult. I donāt think thereās anything to hide as a parent. We donāt have to go to our kids assuming that we have all of the answers, and I think theyāll see through us pretty quickly if we try to have all of the answers. I would immediately follow up and go, Well, help me understand: What are you talking about? What part are you struggling with? I would try to steer that from just an overarching kind of emotional dismissal. To say Help me understand. What are you talking about? Is there a passage that you read that you were struggling with? What do you mean? And then that way you begin having a conversation about a specific issue that you might be able to address. But a kid who just goes The Bibleās confusing is just emotionally saying I donāt know what to do. I donāt like this. Itās not fun. So as a parent, Iām asking how do we push through that to identify a real problem? I remember one conversation with my youngest. One time I was tucking him in, he was pretty young at the time, and he said I want my brother to sleep in the room with me. I donāt want to be alone! And classic pastor-Bible professor that I am, Iām like Buddy, youāre never alone. Youāre never alone. God is always with you. And then just on the mark he just goes But I want someone with a body! I need somebody with a body. And in this kind of moment of just truth-telling and honesty of a kid, heās like Yeah, Godās here, but I want a body! I want a person that I can see! In that moment of honesty, I walked over to him, I gave him a hug, and I said Iāve got a body. Letās talk about that. What does it mean that God has a body? The Bible tells us that God actually took on a body. And so in that moment of him being really frustrated that God was not in the room with him and he couldnāt see him, we were able to think about what does it mean that God came and dwelled among us and took on a body that we might know who he is more fully? So I think in those moments where kids are confused or frustrated, start to ask specific questions: What is it that youāre talking about? Is there a specific issue here that we can get at?
26:50 ā What If My Kid Says That the Bible Seems Unbelievable?
Matt Tully
Hereās one more what if statement that maybe is more relevant for slightly older kids who are thinking on a deeper level about Godās word and what it says. Thatās the question What if my kid says that the Bible seems unbelievable? Theyāre reading through it themselves (maybe for the first time) or theyāre reading some of the miracles or theyāre reading about Christās resurrection, and theyāre kind of wondering how do I know this actually happened? How would you respond to something like that?
Rusty Osborne
Thatās a great question, and I think itās a great question to ask in this venue because I think thatās a question thatās every Christian parentās nightmareāthe moment that this cloud breaks over your head and you go, Oh my gosh! What if my kid isnāt a Christian? What I think immediately follows is this theological panic. Thereās this real disorientation, and I think in that disorientation thereās a lot of temptation for us to react in rash ways. So, all of a sudden Iāve never thought that my kid couldnāt be a believer, and theyāre asking questions about the faith, so we give a We donāt ask that question kind of response. Like Weāre not going there. We shut it down. I think thereās a lot of temptation to go there out of this fear that goes Oh my gosh! What if my kid doesnāt believe like Iāve wanted them to and Iāve prayed for them to and like I do? I think the best response to that is to remember your own theology as a parent and to go I did not make this kid. I am not going to save this kid. This kid is a creation by God, who is going to be saved by God, and I have a role to shepherd and to steer and to instruct, but I canāt make them love the Lord and believe in the resurrection and believe in the virgin birth. I cannot produce that in my child. And I think once we remind ourselves what we already believe, it helps us respond in a much more loving, peaceful way to that person and say The Bible does call us to faith. It calls us to receive by faith things that we cannot explain. I have embraced those. Your mother has embraced those. This is part of what we believe life is centered around. Iāve told my children I canāt make you believe the things that I believe. Thatās not Godās design for me as a father. My role as a father is not to force you to believe things and force you to love things. My role is to point you toward them, to steer you toward them, to shepherd you toward them, to show you the glories of the gospel. But you have to believe and receive this message of hope that comes in Scripture. And as a parent, I think that interaction, obviously, should drive us to prayer. It should be a wake up call. We immediately feel the limitations of what it means to be a parentāI canāt save my own kid. Oh God, have mercy! But also, I would say take a step back and think about your own spiritual journey. I think as a parent weāre so often tempted to hold our kids to a higher spiritual standard than we held for ourselves as we were being sanctified and growing in the gospel. I guarantee every person listening to this has had a moment where you have wrestled with the reality of God, with life after death, with is the gospel real? That is the stuff of Christianity. Thatās the stuff of being an apostle, looking at Jesus with your own eyes. And so letās be careful not to apply a spiritual pressure to our children that we have not even held ourselves to, and let them wrestleāthatās an important part of the Christian lifeāand know that our job as a parent is to walk with them through the wrestling and not try to give them answers to have them go around it or to sidestep it, but to look at them and go Sometimes this is tough. I will pray for you. Can I pray for you right now? Are there other things I can pray for you about? As your kids get older, you really do have to take more of a pastoral role that looks at that teenage daughter or that teenage son and goes Iām not here to fix you. Iām here to love you, Iām here to pray for you, and Iām here to walk with you through the hard things that life is going to bring. But Iām also here to point you to the hope that is in the gospel. And just trying to be proactive and pushing into that relationship when thereās a lot of life stage issues that are wanting the door shut, wanting the parent to stay out. But be willing to engage and go Itās okay if youāre wrestling. Iāve told my children I donāt want them to ever feel like they canāt talk to me about their theological questions. My heart would be broken if I felt like my teenagers couldnāt come to me and say, Iām having a hard time believing this. I would feel like Iāve done the wrong thing. I want them to feel Dad cares about me, and that if thereās any place I can go and talk about the struggles of my faith, itās with him.
Matt Tully
How do you balance giving your kidās space to wrestle and encouraging that even to some extent, because we do want their faith to be their own? We donāt want them to believe just because we believe, but how do you balance that space with, on the other hand, being proactive as a parent, with pointing them towards the truth, pointing them towards the answers that we have come to and that we embrace as true? How do you that?
Rusty Osborne
Thatās a great question. The question throws you into the question of what method do we do. Iām a big proponent of classical education pedagogy. I think that there is a real reality to how children learnāmoving from grammar to logic to rhetoric stages in development. I think that in the early years catechism is huge. I guess somebody could hear me and be like Man, this guyās just like anything goes. Thatās actually not true. In the early stages, we were very much intentional. Weāve read cover to cover as many childrenās Bibles as we can get our hands on, our kids are doing catechism at school and at home, and theyāre memorizing Scripture. So I think all of those things are extremely important. But itās also much easier when theyāre younger. Again, itās just not as hard to get a six-year-old kid and say, Letās do this! Letās have fun! And theyāre like Yeah! Time with dad! Time with mom! Letās do it! And itās fun then, but eventually that relationship does begin to change. And so thatās where Iām talking about that as they get older, forcing a thirteen-year-old to do catechism is now entering into a different parental space where we have to go Is that beneficial? Are we now still accomplishing the same thing with Suzanne sitting on the couch just shooting daggers with her eyes at dad the whole time while reciting āTo glorify God and enjoy him foreverā? Thereās some disconnect there that I think can be detrimental. But I think in those early stages, itās definitely where we try to lay the foundation of Scripture memory, of just filling their life with the Bible in multiple ways. One of the things that Iāve come to love is our house is filled with animals. We have dogs, we have cats, we have chickens, we have pigeons. Weāre regularly engaged with the animal world, and one of the things that I love talking with my boys about is I love to pray with them as weāre working with animals and to say things like, Hey guys, letās just stop and letās just thank God for puppies. Arenāt they just so fun? And theyāre like, Yes! I think Iāve just helped them see that God is not the God of adults, that God is not the God of big, fancy things, but God loves puppies just like they do, that God loves their chickens just like they do, that God cares. Iām not getting into theological discourse here. Thereās obviously a distinction in the way that God relates to the created world, but I think it helps my children come to know God as Creator, as God, as one who gives life, who gives good gifts. I want my children to grow up going, All of the good things that we have in life are from my heavenly Father, and I know how to stop periodically and just go, āThank you, God, for these good things that we had today.ā And so I think trying to build the Bible and build prayer into everyday activities becomes so important in those early days and in those early years. As life changes and kids grow into teenagers and they become more aware of everybody else around them, you now have laid a foundation that you can look at your twelve-year-old or your fourteen-year-old and stop and say, Hey, you know what? Letās pray. Letās pray about this. Letās get our focus. I know thereās a lot of pressure. I know itās a hard day. I know youāre getting ready to go into a tough situation. Letās ask God to be with us here. And thereās context for that. Thereās context for that, and thatās meaningful to them. That isnāt just an Okay, hereās a dad praying thing. Theyāve grown in their ability to bring God intoāand see God at workāin the everyday life that theyāre living.
Matt Tully
Rusty, thank you so much for helping us as parents and maybe as those who arenāt parents but nevertheless have young people in their life that they have an influence onāthat theyāre mentoring or working with in some wayāhelping us see how we can think about what it looks like to help kids come to love God and love his word in a deeper way. We appreciate it.
Rusty Osborne
Absolutely. Itās been a joy.
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