oh is the âmlm ships are fetishizationâ argument being slung at bylers now?? what a dumb fucking argument.
unless youâre doing something legitimately fetishistic (which i have at least personally not seenâsomeone could be doing it, but to my knowledge, the majority of byler shippers in the fandom are not) then, guess what? itâs not fetishizing.
also from what iâve seen, a lot of bylers are queer themselves?? so, again: weird take.
yâall arenât claiming this about elumax, elmax, or ronance (all ships i also like btw), which are also queer ships.. so is it just queer men you donât like?? whatâs the issue here?
what if a baby queer that likes byler sees the dumbfuck shit yâall are spewing and starts to feelâunrightfullyâgross and wrong? what if they start to feel bad about themselves over a fictional ship, of all things? homophobia is still wildly prevalent, and so easy to internalize. none of this is that fucking deep in the first place, itâs a gd netflix show. but the way you speak toâand down toâREAL PEOPLE is that deep.
dislike whatever ship you want!! but donât start acting like itâs over some moral high ground that you donât have. donât make queer people feel guilt over enjoying a queer ship. bffr.
also, shipping never used to be about what was canon: it was about what people could relate to, find themselves in, and enjoy. stop acting like this is more important than it is, and stop attacking people over it. particularly when youâre using buzzwords that donât apply and could hurt younger queer people.
for reference, before anyone tries to pull the âfetishizingâ shit on me: i am a queer, trans man. i like byler because 1) i didnât get to come out and start transitioning until i was in my 20s and also have been chronically ill+disabled+suffering with an ed my whole life, so i missed out on both being a ânormalâ teen boy and just a lot of my teen years in general. 2) at 21, i married my DM from my teenage DnD years and now weâre cute and gay!! iâm an artist and he is writing a book based on the DnD world he spent his entire life building. i edit it for him and draw his character art. heâs also building his own gridless role playing system akin toâDnD but differentâthat i do the art for. so i see a lot of us in the ship, and think itâd be cute to see that play out in the show.












