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Well, I’d be inclined to say someone’s a little biased towards a particular answer, judging by the wording here.

If you’re going to ask questions about John/June in a gender neutral way, where their gender is either a question or up for personal interpretation, it’s good form and common practice to refer to them simply as “Egbert”, or “Jegbert”.

John is the masculine form of the character. June is the transfeminine form. Egbert is up for viewer interpretation. This is why you do not refer to depictions of June as John, and vice versa. It’s rude. Always check the original poster’s tags.

John is what is definitively canon to Homestuck as we know it. This doesn’t make it any more or less valid than those who abide by June, but it is what’s canon. Some people use this canonicity as an excuse to be transmisogynistic, and that’s not acceptable.

Anon, I respect and appreciate the lack of confrontationality in this ask a lot. Quite a lot of people can get incredibly hostile and accusatory on both sides of the spectrum with regards to June vs. John.

You and I are both in agreement that they’re the same character. This much is true. I’ll absolutely respect anyone who is marking their pre-transition June art as June, and tag said art appropriately. Hell, if someone tags their art as both John and June, I usually play the safe route and just stick with June. It seems more respectful to me.

That said… They’re the same character, yes, but you have to keep in mind that while transfeminine June may have existed as a headcanon for a long time- I’m not disputing this, nor her importance/significance to anyone- so has transmasculine John. In fact, if I’m recalling correctly, that was the more popular headcanon of the two. Hell, some people even find comfort in the idea of John being a supportive trans ally, and I think it’s best to just respect what people are making content of/tagging their stuff with. You don’t know why someone is specifically making content of John over June.

If someone tags their art as John and only as John, then it’s most likely that they’re drawing John and not pre-transition June. If someone tags their art as June and only as June, no matter what she looks like, then they’re drawing fucking June. I tend to think of June vs. John the same way I think of any other different, significant phase of a character. I tag Aradiabot and Aradia Megido differently. Same character, different phase. I also take June Egbert and John Egbert differently. Same character, different phase.

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I think people are forgetting the fact that when someone transitions, they are the same exact person, just with a different presentation.

A lot of people act like John and June are effectively different people when that’s quite literally not how that works. I’ve seen a good amount of people basically make June be Jade 2.0, when June is actually just… John, post transition. Meaning… they’d have the same personality. And the same exact problems.

June is not going to stop being a bit of an asshole just because she transitioned. She is going to be the same person she used to be, with one more thing figured out about herself. Transitioning isn’t a psychological cure-all, it’s just a big step into truly being comfortable with yourself. June is not Jade. June is June. John is John. Jade is Jade.

Do you think this is a connection between wind and void as aspects? Or do you think it just alludes to John’s later role as the Heir of Breath?

I’m pretty sure that none of the quotes cited within the pages of Homestuck are cited properly. If I recall correctly, that particular quote is actually one by French writer François de La Rochefoucauld. I could be entirely wrong, though.