i cant stop thinking about cuptoast's pork soda uuguhahah
WAAAAARNING INCOHERENT (NOT PROOF READ) TOMTORD RANT WAAAARNING ( i do not only ship tomtord. i am not an annoying tomtord fan i SWEAAAR! i love all ships, i just have a lot to say about tomtord)
i love how they depicted tom and tord's relationship. much different than the original pork soda animation. i really reallly like it because its more like how i like to think about their relationship!!! yearning, but hate. they cannot accept that they like each other, because their relationship is rocky and difficult, and not like it used to be.
the animation is beautiful. every once in a while i find an animation that ill watch a bunch for like a week because its visually pleasing or i like the story, and this is THE ONE!!! it felt like i was 7 years old watching it for the first time again.
fantastic job, toast!!!!!! i loved it and you did an amazing job!!!!!!!!!
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Vassago represents everything wrong with Helluva Boss
And it pisses me off knowing weāre gonna see MORE OF HIM
An extremely disorganized, yet very passionate rant, below the cut.
Letās break it down.
TOO MANY CHARACTERS
Who the fuck is this guy. This cast is already cramped full of freaks why do we need another one. With every character added, we take time away from the main cast!!!!!! Guys I want to spend more time with Millie I donāt want Vassago!!!!!! THERES TOO MANY PEOPLE HERE!!!
Vivzie projects are always cramped with characters. I get it, I like characters too. But itās like sheās treating it like an oc dollhouse and not a Story. Focus on the stuff you have established, donāt break away from it to talk about fucking VASSAGO
THE BAD WRITING PROBLEM
Vassago, the sopping wet red dye 40 parrot, was introduced in episode 11 of season 2. Heās been a blight on the show ever since.
Now, I donāt a have a problem with a character being introduced this late in the game. My problem is he kind of disrupts the lore with Stolas??
I thought Stolas was this lonely friendless loser, why does he suddenly have shooters? Who is this fucking guy where did he come from. Itās like they came up with him halfway thru the season or something. WHO IS THIS GUY????? CAN HE GO AWAY???
HEāS UGLY!!!!
Ok thatās just me being mean, his design is fine in a vacuum.
Unfortunately we arenāt in a vacuum.
Iām sick of all these birds, I really really am.
The thing that pisses me off the most is that heās supposed to be a pirate????????? Nuh uh nuh uh you canāt gaslight me like this. A couple of Xās on his kinky boots does not make him a pirate. I donāt care if he has golden riches or whatever, that does not read in his design
Thatās just something that annoys me about Vivzie designs in general
They never read as what theyāre supposed to be! A good character design should tell you everything you need to know about a character just by looking at em. There are a few helluva designs that I think are good in this regard
Like Striker! Cowboy snake demon guy!!! Few too many details for my liking but you can easily get a read on his personality.
Heās uniquely shaped and has a strong silhouette. Itās kind of peak.
A couple other examples of HB guys that I think are strong designs r Mammon, Stella, Loona (to an extent), and Octavia.
You know who doesnāt have a clear theme? Or unique features? Or anything else thatās good?
Yeah you guessed it
The thing is, I would actually like this design if it were in something else. And if the character heās supposed to be is a quirky parrot popstar or something. He looks like a quirky parrot popstar!!!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN HES A PIIIIRAAATE
THE SPANGLISH šš
*Spanish guitar plays when I enter the room even though Iām white* Hey guys
Surely there was a better was to go about implementing the Spanish dialogueā¦ā¦ cĆ”ntalo baby..
My hot Vassago take is that he should just be speaking Spanish. Theyāre all demons, just let him speak whatever. I also think that would be funny.
Anyways letās all point and laugh everytime a Spanish guitar or maracas or some shit plays everytime the Hispanic character speaks.
MERCH BAIT!!!! MARCH BAIT!!!!!!!
Guy who only exists to sell merch.
Obviously thatās not true, I donāt know WHY this pesky parrot puke bitch exists. But they sure are capitalizing on it.
Letās talk about the Pride merch drop lets talk about the merch letās talk about the merch drop
Did you know, not including group things, Vassago has 6 unique pieces of merch?
And guess how many Barbie has?
Excluding group things she got, ONE āļø sticker
Weāre really out here giving the one-off waste of space ten gazillion things per pride drop and ignoring the pivotal lore character?
(The mistreatment of Barbie Wire will be studied for decades to comeā¦)
Another thingā
QUEER REPRESENTATION IN THE HELLAVERSE
Do you know how cool it is to have a show that is so openly queer? To have a show this big and still have LGBT characters in it? In this day and age especially?? Iāll never deny the impact these shoves have had with paving the way for queer stories to come!
That saidā¦.. ermā¦
itās not perfectā¦ā¦.
*Shakes my stupid tin can* please sir. pleose one nonbinary character for me⦠pliease sirā¦
Thereās nothing wrong with having a cast of pan and bi characters but yknow.. thereās a lot of other identities out thereā¦. we could mix it up sometimeā¦
another gay bird? alright thatās okā¦..
In that alternate universe where Vassago is a quirky parrot popstar, he can be a butch lesbianā¦. For mee
GRRRRAAAAaagg
When s3 is out we need to measure who gets more screen time- Millie or Vassago. I have a feeling heās gonna be eating up all the screen time with his hokey nonsense.
Anyways I think thatās everything. I cannot tell you how much he makes me want to rip my hair out. Whoās favorite helluva boss character is fucking Vassago he sucks so bad
BITCHES WOULD RATHER BUY TEN THOUSAND PIECES OF VASSAGO MERCH OVER ONE PIECE OF BARBIE WIRE MERCH
WHY??? WHY????? WHAT DOES HE CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY??? HEāS A FOOL!!!!!
Yall mind if a white boy speak a lil espanol? ?????? IM SO TIRED
Thatās it, Iām tired of thinking about Vassago. Bye
swerve is so important to agent 113 plot!!! i wish people talked about it more!!!
and all the possibilities of him meeting dominus, of him just seeing dominus, of rewind asking swerve about what he saw! and swerve being important to cdrw relationship with that!
and swerve... being important in general.
he doesn't look like he is in any major plot, he's not really a character with a big sad backstory or a big dramatic moment (because let's be honestāSwearth is not that dramatic). he doesn't have a particular character to be connected to; he sticks to everyone and has a potential to develop important relationships with most of the characters on the ship. he's a bit floating here and there, isn't he?
but then it's all in small details. ratchet gently respects him and his medic abilities. skids enjoys his company and is worried about him. cyclonus sees something in him! that grumpy guy! and understands him! velocity thinks he's heartfelt. misfire thinks they're similar. ultra magnus opens up to himāyes, drunk but it's certainly something! and it goes on and on.
and swerve does so many important things. he helps to cure cybercrosis. he has agent's 113 bullet inside of him. he, after all, opens a bar where everyone can rest and have fun. isn't that awesome?
and yet, he locks himself in that room. and yet, he hates himself to his core. and yet, he thinks he is not important at all. and yet, he needs to create a whole planet to get noticed.
hey everyone, itās me. I know I havenāt been around for a few months but I feel like I kind of owe you guys an explanation since I have kind of dipped but I genuinely missed this place and the community I had here.
in addition to me focusing a bit on college, iāll honestly say that the reason iāve mostly been gone is that my dysphoria has intensified far more ever since going back to college. I have been extremely brainwormed and kind of miserable about it and college has kind of been my only way to escape feeling so upset. I genuinely feel bad for dipping on you guys but I really didnāt want to subject anyone to my misery or just feeling super shit about being trans and having so much internalized dysphoria. Iāll be very blunt and say that I do not know when this is gonna be better. Itās the reason why I havenāt been in contact with as many people.
I know a couple of you follow me on my insta main account and Iāve been story posting more frequently on there so it seems like nothing has been wrong maybe, but I genuinely am just highkey tired of being trans and all this bitterness has really changed my personality for the worst. If you have any questions about my disappearance and shit and you want to send them in my inbox, I wonāt guarantee that Iāll respond but Iāll at least try to take a look at them.
Iām sorry again it has just been a few months of disassociating and only being able to escape my woes and worries from being at college. You have all the right to be upset with me for being gone for so long and I donāt know when Iāll kind of return, but I hope it can be soon. I just really need to fix myself fr and Iām really tired of being trans and being stuck in a womanās body LMAO
twisted finn rolling around in puddles of ichor is cute until you remember its basically the same material as his blood and it would be the equivalent of a human rolling around in blood which is coincidentally the plot of iron lung and wait how did we get here anyways its my personal theory that ichor is a (although slowly) corrosive material and the ichor in twisted finns fishbowl thats replaced his water and also him rolling around in ichor puddles leads to the wound where his legs are missing to never fully heal or close and eventually slowly wither away at his glass until after years and years theres nothing left of him sorry i needed to talk about finn for a moment
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My personal interpretation on kirbycaden (and caleb244 a bit) is someone who is very pathetic and powerless due to his own mentality. The Kirbycaden account wasnāt actually that active during the forum arcs (by the actual Kirbycaden), so I couldnāt possibly say whether or not Kirbycaden really had many friends during that time.
That led to me characterizing him with high barriers and a lack of friendships, I tied that into his zombie identity. If you were something everyone fear, then nobody would see you. If you have nobody, and everyone who attempted to get close, was seeking you out for business purposes, then it would be hard to trust anyone.
Caleb244 is known to be bitchy, known to be a dick. And Iām sure that bothered the shit out of Kirby when they first met prior to Choka. He was everything he didnāt want to be around.
Yet for Caleb, he didnāt mind being around Kirby. Caleb himself can probably relate to having a high barrier, due to the fact he thinks itās every man for himself.
Despite them both having these trust issues, the way I view them reacting is very different.
Whilst caleb244 goes straight into aggression, Kirbycaden goes to sobbing before his anger.
Kirby trusted Choka, and I believe that was the first one he truly had let him āinā. She promised to be there for him, comforted him, played on all of his insecurities, and this caused to form some bond with Choka. Finally letting someone in.
(Fear on ao3, by patchesofcut)
So when Choka, and Vice versa caleb244, was revealed to be fake. I can imagine how he was shattered, very emotionally upset. Probably unable to get out of bed for weeks, whilst coming with terms that he still does love Choka, and vice versa towards Caleb, yet he still had to fight back.
Although instead of āfighting backā to make sure people understand the fact Kirbycaden been hacked, he did it more so he could gain some form of attention from Caleb. Because thereās truly no undoing the damage he did to his reputation, whether he got his accounts back or not, heās pretty fucked.
And when Caleb244 didnāt give him the response he wanted, leading to a sense of sadness or even more anger. I tend to swing both ways for my works, if I do write. Whatever thatās my yap.
"616 sam is not military propaganda, unlike the mcu"
Lol. Lmao even.
MCU does the thing where they get money from the military and/or permission to shoot on aircraft carriers in exchange for a passing look over the script. They can ask to cut things, and if (big if) they're not specifying what to include, they're at least being catered to in advance of requests (I.e. things are included because they reckon the funding people will like them). Marvel can go along with them (e.g ca:tws, captain marvel, tfatws, ca:bnw) or refuse the changes, take their ball and go (e.g. the avengers 2012)
The above has an odd effect on the films. All 4 projects listed have anti military themes and contain unsubtle critiques of the US gov and military. Captain Marvel and tfatws openly shit on the war on terror as a concept, for example. However, all these projects portray Military Good Guys doing heroics. And all portray aspects of the us military in a positive light (e.g. the veteran support stuff in tws is absolutely propaganda, glossing over a common complaint about the military leaving vets out in the cold after their tours end). This is thematically shallow but it does please the funding guys.
For the comics, this specific financial relationship does not exist. (Although I would not be shocked if over the years specific comics and runs had been funded by the government (and not just wwii era stuff), or been commissioned top gun-style as recruitment material.)
Pro military, pro war, and (idk how to put this as a European but) being very weird about America in a way that is indistinguishable from paid propaganda - this is so common in marvel comics that you barely notice. As far as Sam is concerned, there are some stand outs:
Sam's early appearances are censored by the comics code, which renders his radical politics subtextual and cloaked in innuendo. (This leads to him being interpreted as less radical and more centristy by people who can't read, which then leads to him being written that way in future comics). The comics code is complicated but to be clear, by 1970, marvel absolutely did not *need* to be compliant here. They could have got out of that situation, they could've challenged it legally, they could've just ignored it (which they often did for other aspects of it for the next 30 years). But no.
Incidentally, when they finally got out of the shrivelled remains of the code in the 2000s, they mainly took the opportunity to write more gratuitous sexual assault in their comics (im barely exaggerating). The women got (even) more naked and worse things happened to them. Not to be politically radical, not to be left wing. Not even to let the gay characters be gay (that took another ten years).
In the 80s, sam is portrayed as believing that Ronald Reagan himself could be talked into being a great president. Embarrassing. The man was openly racist.
Sam gets saddled with military bs despite canonically never being a soldier (and being subtextually anti war in those early appearances). He refuses to ever work wjth shield in 1970 and then basically lives there in the 80s/90s. He gets stupid framing and terrible quotes.
Speaking of the 2000s, post 911, marvel goes full jingoism for a while there, like a lot of American media at the time.
This is also around about when sam gets saddled with a "romance" subplot that dabbles in raceplay shit... featuring the second of marvels "sexy nazi teenager" characters from the era. Unsalvageable. Not what I would consider a more progressive take than the movies.
It's also when we get cap!bucky and sam getting some of his most overt "black sidekick" treatment. The idea of sam being given focus and interiority is not even on the table: he is here to support the next white guy.
I guess this is kind of off-topic, but beyond simply how much the military is literally featured and how much people say "America fuck yeah", the idea that the comics are more progressive, more woke than the mcu is pretty dumb. They are often far worse. And in fact, the vast majority of Sam's history has something up with it (the buckycap storyline isnāt even particularly bad for him, it's just emblematic of something).
And OK maybe you could say it's unfair to compare racist comics from the last century to modern films. Maybe we should only make the comparison within the time frame that mcu sam has existed.
In which case... eh? Post 2013, Sam has some generic sidekick writing, some focus as cap, and a copious heap of sidelining.
In terms of the political themes? Idk it's mixed. People critise the mid 10s cap stuff for being centristy. People (me) criticised symbol of truth for being unfocused and irrelevent to Sam's character. He does start SoT working for a politician for no clear reason. I guess that isnāt the military, but it is weirdly "for the government" for Sam's character.
Despite the fact that the military funding arrangements leave mcu films in this weird space thematically, I do think it's worth saying I could never picture mcu sam saying "America fuck yeah" or any such variation of it. I think mackie knows the character too well to let it get to that (see his comments before bnw that got him harassed by chuds for weeks). Meanwhile, 616 sam has been saddled with more dumb quotes than I could count. Probably because all it takes is one dumb writer (who maybe can't read) and an editor who doesn't care.
I'm not making any clear point here, but just... can we stop glazing the comics like this? Can we stop using the fact that people havent read them (and no ones read all of them) as a way of convincing people of narratives that don't hold up because we won't get any pushback?
Idk i like Sam's original 616 backstory (not the dumb retcons) more than his mcu one. And i specifically like how 616 sam is not a soldier. But then again mcu sam was college aged when 911 happened, he canonically had just lost his mum when he signed up... idk i can see it for him. It makes sense.
616 sam is an eternally youngish, telepathic bird prince, who was college aged during the Vietnam War (which he subtextually, but not explicitly opposed). Mcu sam isn't and didn't. They have subtly different personalities, different looks and are different guys. Idk I like them both, and I think it's fine.
It was fine when "I" would just make short undetailed animations, but it's always been full of advertisements and very slow, and now making this big project, it has terrible storage and has been even more buggy than before. They also recently had a big update that really just made it all more confusing and they added an AI feature which "I" hate AI, and it definitely shouldn't be put in a art app of all places.
Flip a clip is glitchy, adding sounds to it doesn't work properly for "me", it overloads you with advertisements, and just doesn't make sense anymore.
"I" thought bunny games was gonna be much shorter when "I" was first planning it, but "I" just kept adding stuff. "I" planned to find a new app for animation after "I" finished bunny games, but now "I" plan to make a lot more episodes. "I" donf really know what to do...? Cause all of bunny games is in flipaclip and if "I" where to switch over to another app "I'd" have to re-draw some stuff to keep consistency so things would look slightly different and it would add more work to the whole process, pluse "I" would have to learn how to use a whole other app.