I assume you're asking about the secret boss in the AU with my version of Mike? 😂 (Maybe I should come up with an AU name...)
Either way I haven't thought much about it other than some joke ideas since I don't really have any ideas for a new character to fit that
One of the joke ideas is just Mike building himself a weird tiny mecha, Pickle Rick style (If you've seen the episode, you know exactly what I'm talking about lol) but that's a bit too silly pfff
Another one is Omega Host, similar to Omega Flowey, because they are a LOT more powerful than they let on, but they also have a lot more going on behind the scenes and they could use some help getting rid of strings that are holding them 😔
Both of these also imply that they get separated from each other so uhm 🤔 idk
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what do spam and swatch think about host and vice versa?
It's sad because a lot of problems that happen end up circling back to Host, but in the end, they always struggled to form a proper relationship with Spamton. :(
During the addispam/big shot era, Mike always tried to make Host feel included in the calls that they made, and Host did end helping a lot behind the scenes, but due to their disability, the fact that the best way for them to talk to Spamton was through the phone left them at a disadvantage :(
Even before they lost their voice, they already struggled connecting with others (Which was why they were targeted by Gaster in the first place), but Host still cared a lot about Spamton, they both did.
When Host's constant use of their ability to connect to Cyber City began to deteriorate their mind, they still insisted that they were fine and they could continue to make the calls. But when things went south for Mike and Spamton, Mike had to quit the calls in order to get Host to stop using their powers and not completely fry their brain. Host's worsening state was stressing him out and he began to subconsciously blame Spamton for it and taking it out on him.
This in turn got Host to feel super guilty over abandoning Spamton, and they were devastated when they learned what had happened. Mike on the other hand was convinced that Spamton could handle himself.
Spamton knew about Host, but most of his communication was with Mike :') He knew they were there and that Mike was fond of them, but he didn't really know how he could talk or connect to them. He also didn't know they were deteriorating, so when things got sour with Mike, he became convinced that Host was also in on it and he got to resent the two of them :')
I like to imagine that when they meet up years later in Castle Town, that they would be able to finally talk more. They're both secret bosses and even though Host is absolutely traumatized over turning Omega, I like to think that the two of them could bond over that. ;; And the knowledge of Heaven/Light World (Mike also knows about it, but he still struggles to fully understand it.)
As for Swatch, Mike was always iffy about them 😂 he was kind of over-protective with Spamton and when he realized he was crushing on Swatch, he was really disapproving and annoying about it because he didn't want Spamton getting distracted from his work. Host on the other hand found his crush cute and encouraged it while getting Mike to loosen up a little.
Later on Castle town, I imagine Spamton had confided to Swatch about what really happened with him, so they were left with a very negative impression. 😂 Meeting Mike, Swatch is underwhelmed because of how tiny he is, but they're unsure of what to think about Host.
Even when Spamton and Mike get on better terms, Swatch still doesn't like him, but they don't mind Host as much since they're nice and polite and only become hostile when Mike gets harmed. Maybe they could become friends... :)
How do you come up with concepts/find Inspiration for projects like your ch3?
Warning - I got overexcited and started info-dumping and ended writing a LOT and I don't ever know if it's helpful so uhhhh sorry about that! This is long...
Thank you for the question :)
Creating original characters has been my passion for way over a decade so tbh I don't really think about it too much, it kind of just happens
Characters end up living in my head and doing their own thing and I have no choice but to watch and document it LOL jkjk
But yeah, for chapter 3 I've literally only made Mike and Host and have hardly developed anything around the TV World aside from the stuff that I have shared and the backstory of those two
I guess I could share my thought process when I was first making them? I don't know if that would help, but I do enjoy sharing stuff like that ^^
I'll start by saying that I never wanted to make a Mike design because I knew from the start that I'd become extremely attached, and lo and behold, that's exactly what happened hahaha
Host was never a character in the earlier concepts, I'm writing my fic "To Give You Heaven", and while "Mike" has been mentioned in my other fics as kind of like a vague evil entity that torments Spamton's memories, for the Heaven fic, I wanted to focus more on the relationship between the two.
And in order to have that, "Mike" needed to actually be a character rather than just an evil voice just so their relationship actually had anything to it.
I've never been good at writing villains, every time I write a mean villain-esce thing, it never feels natural to me, and I do admit that that is the reason why Mike (And Host) turned out to be a lot more morally grey than most other interpretations I've seen ;;
aNYWAY, THE DESIGN UHHH
Host was never meant to be a character
I actually started writing Mike in the fic before I tried to draw him, and initially him and Host were the same entity.
I was mixed about it because everything in the game points to Mike being the TV character but I kept thinking about how "Mike" is most likely a pun for "Mic/Microphone" and I had seen some fan designs already that interpreted him as a microphone so I was really into that idea, but I also liked the TV Head idea so I started with them being the same character, so it was just Mike commanding this empty husk of a TV Head, who was also him???
Or he was a microphone built into the TV Head's body?? They both had the pink and yellow eyes at some point, and they'd move in sync, but that kind of went nowhere.
Then that whole thing kind of started developing into the whole parasite/host idea, and the TV Head got the placeholder name of "TV Host" (Because haha pun) and then just "Host" and then slowly became their own entity so that's how they came into the picture.
But having not one but two characters talking to Spamton at the same time would kind of felt weird and the relationship Host originally had with Mike was also a lot more hostile, so I ended up making them mute.
Host's connection with Gaster also came from their whole sign language thing and how it hints at that "Beware of the man who speaks in hands" phrase. Host's initial concept also had holes on the hands, but that got scrapped because it felt a bit too on the nose LOL
Side-note, but Host's concept of the floating sign language hands is actually a recycled idea from an AU version of another unrelated OC of mine, I wasn't doing anything with said AU OC, but I liked that part of the design so I wanted to reuse that.
My thought process is all over the place rn, but yeah the main idea for them was just me being stubborn and not wanting to make a TV Head Mike, but still wanting to have fun with that expectation.
Basically I just wanted people to go "Wait, Mike's the microphone???" Which I think is really funny
I kind of expected people to not really care much about Host because of this, but the reception to them has been so positive, I'm really surprised ^^
I'm a sucker for characters who are "opposites attract", so you'll probably find a lot of that in them
Talks a lot vs Can't talk at all, Extrovert vs Introvert, Short vs Tall, Aggressive vs Calm
But I also wanted to have parallels with Spamton! And I really liked the idea of Spamton being "manipulated" by Mike, who ironically is not only smaller than he is, but physically powerless to do anything on his own.
I think I mentioned it on Twitter but I'm not sure if I did here, Mike and Host are also inspired on the Swatch/Spamton and Seam/Jevil dynamics, where it's just "weird little guy" and "emotional support non-binary shopkeeper" LOL whichhhhh built the expectation of Mike being a secret boss, but I wanted to be stubborn so I said "Uhm actually it's Host" because they're the one with the Gaster connection and between them and Mike, they're the one who's more prone to getting manipulated by someone with bad intentions, Mike kind of ends up protecting them in that aspect
Hosts' Design hmm
Their design was based on the TV Sprite from the end of Chapter 2, and their blue tone was originally colour picked from the sprite itself, I couldn't decide what their eyes would look like so I didn't give them any, and even though it's not present on the sprite, I gave them the colour bar mouth anyway (Omega Host has the normal non-coloured teeth similar to the sprite, because that inconsistency bothers me a lot haha)
As I mentioned above, the floaty hand idea is recycled from an older OC, and also because I couldn't figure out what their arms looked like so I didn't give them any.
Their shoulders are inspired on those bulky square camera heads, with the green part being the camera len, but they're so stylized so I'm not sure that part of the design actually translates too well. I based their body on a TV remote, couldn't decide on a leg design so I just made them solid blue as well.
Tailcoats are kind of a weird staple of my designs so the addition of it is just a design clutch, but also an excuse for me to repeat the colour bar pattern haha
I should have mention that the green on their design is the same green from the Spamton NEO's strings, I kind of wanted the green to kind of symbolize "connection" of some sort, which is why I added it to the shoulders and wrists, but also Mike's cord.
Mike's Design
He's literally a microphone with eyes and funny face, what do you want me to say LOL
He was inspired on the smiling face that you see when you go to the basement, but at some point I inverted the order of his eye colour and I forgot to fix it so his eyes are the same as Spamton's glasses
Back on the opposites talk, while Host has no eyes, Mike is literally a goofy face slapped on a mic, he's so tiny that I had to make his eyes and mouth huge to make up for it
He's inspired on one of those metal retro microphones because I wanted to imply that he was older with a vintage ish look (He's like on his 50s), and I think his silver colour ended up adding to that because I personally associate the silver with older people, but also him being shiny kind of helped give him an important look I guess?? I'm not sure if that comparison makes any sense.
Him and Host also have the cute matching bowties because of the TV presenter vibes, Mike's green cord is because of the Spamton/Sneo connection and hhhhh Yeah that's all there is to it really
On his own, he's literally just a microphone so he looks best when together with Host,,
I don't know what I say about Mike's design with the body, he's very simple. Asymmetric suit to match his eyes, pink and white because I felt like the yellow would be too much, and the cord actually being his tail is kind of a funny gag,,, Because I imagine he tries to act very intimidating when he's just a mic, but then when he gets his body fixed, others find out that the cord was a tail and paired with how tiny he is, it just makes him weirdly cute and I don't know, it's just a cute interaction hahaha
But yeah, I'm not sure if this helped in anyway or if I completely missed the point of the question ;v; My process is just throwing stuff at the wall until it sticks and just work from there, and also not worry too much about getting characters perfect in one go because the development is gradual??? Most of my inspiration comes from Deltarune/Undertale itself, as well as reading people's theories on the game
I've been making characters for a while, it kind of just happens so I don't know what advice to give other than "This is how I did things, so if any of what I said helps, uhh go for it??" qwq
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seeing Mike being upset as hell at Spamton when he thought Spamton showd a dead host
that--
I feel BAD for him
He's hanging in there and refusing to show any weakness towards anyone in Castle Town, but he's absolutely not doing well :'D He misses Host a lot and blames everyone in town for what happened to them
AAALSO A QUESTION FOR YOUR MIKE DESIGN!
why cant Host just leave Mike you know
Detached? M just curious
Aaaaa I'm still developing them so sorry if my replies are a bit weird hahaha Thank you for asking though!
They can detach from each other no problem! But Mike can't move on his own so he needs Host to get around. They usually prefer to stay plugged into each other
I still need a better reason for Host to keep Mike around, even though one of the reasons if that they enjoy his company, need him to talk for them when they can't communicate by themselves and he's the only one that gets them :) Maybe they have kind of a weird psychic connection when plugged together??
I imagine Host is more vulnerable to Gaster's influence, who is the reason they're mute to begin with, and whatever fucked up stuff Gaster puts in them, also transfers to Mike so they get to be both messed up at the same time :)
