I think Dick should've hallucinated Damian at least once. Bc we know Mr.Peak-Mental-Health has a history of hallucinating dead siblings that he feels guilt over their death for.
I have a bunch of head canons about how Damian's hallucination form differs from Jason's and I may ramble about it sooner or later bc I have NOTES.
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A continuation of this post. About Dick hallucinating Damian along with Jason after Damians death.
Huge info dump about choices and more thoughts etc.
I LOVE Jason's hallucination design in the Nightwing comics. Like.... look at this dude
He looks sick as hell.
He also is more or less drawn with dot eyes so I wanted to keep up that design. But with Damian I wanted to give him a bit more of a haunting look. He carries a perpetually 'bored' expression (at least in the eyes) because that was what Dick remembered as Dami's 'default' expression.
I am running with the idea as well that the reason they are so heavily shadowed is because over time. Dick has forgotten what they look like, the finer details of their face but not their general outline. So his brain fills in the blanks by.... just not having anything there. Jason's shadowy appearance took a while to get to that point. But Dick knew Damian for less time than he knew Jason, so it took much less time for Damian to become that shadowy shell.
Also!! Jason talks, Damian doesn't. In the comics Jason is kind of just a little shit, but from what I've seen never outwardly antagonistic. He talks to Dick, jokes around and while he isn't hurtful. His presence alone hurts Dick anyway. Dick wishes he wouldn't talk so much, because as he loses more detail to Jason's face. More and more Jason's talking is starting to sound like Dicks own voice.
Damian is completely silent in comparison. No jabs, no quips, no barbs. He moves silently, makes no sound. And it absolutely eats at Dick. Where he can't get Jason to stop talking in his 'Not Jason' voice. He can't get Damian to say a word at all. Maybe because he already forgot what Damian sounds like.
However, where Jason is talkative when Damian is silent. Damian is physically affectionate where Jason is distant. Dick isn't sure how to feel about it. One he craves the connection that he couldn't ever properly get with Damian. Two, as much as he can pretend its real and that Damian is right next to him laying on his shoulder. The lack of pressure is more telling than anything and makes Dick hate the contact all the more.
Last bits:
Damian is smaller (not by a whole lot but still smaller) compared to how he was alive. That is because when Dick thinks of Damian he thinks of a child too small to be fighting. A child that was never really a child and that can now never grow up. He was too small. That's all Dick can think about sometimes.
The hallucinations don't interact! Jason does not acknowledge Damian is there. Maybe because subconsciously Dick has no idea how this version of Jason would react to Damian. So his mind can't seem to figure out how to make it work. Despite that though, Damian sometimes is seemingly staring at Jason. With what kind of expression Dick is never sure.
Also a cute? (more sad then cute but we will run with cute) drawing of Dick and Dami :DDD
Short design talk for Steph!:
Steph does not follow the 3 color pallet that the other two do. When doing some research on her time as Robin and looking at references for her design. I often mistook her headband as devil horns and when looking at other peoples interpretation of her Robin uniform I saw that particular design in play a lot. And I absolutely adored it. So it stays!
She has a more complicated design than the others. I wanted them to all have some sort of design aspect that was distinct but could be connected back to each other. (if that makes sense its 12 am and I am very tired writing this) So! Steph has Jason's more spiky shoulders and Damian's yellow outlining in his cape.
You know those comedy masks? Yeah I wanted her to kind of replicate those with her eye and mouth shape. Of course this can be messed with for more expressions. However, I wanted her to seem less intimidating.
The reason for the softer design!! Is that while she seemingly is more approachable than the other two. She is essentially a parrot of Dicks deepest thoughts/insecurities. His worst fears and late night thoughts are all repeated by her. Initially I was debating giving this role to Jason. But, to me, Jason was already this imposing and intimidating figure to Dick that I wanted to change it up a bit. She still isn't inherently antagonistic! She does not mean to be, but it is still Dicks subconscious and it will do whatever the hell it wants.
Lastly! Her and HalluciDami are the exceptions to my previously stated fact that the hallucinations don't interact. While Damian won't reply to her they are able to and often shown acknowledging or physically interacting with the other. This is due to Dick being aware of how they would interact with the other. Although these are (kind of) different versions of the current Dami and Steph they are similar enough to how they are now and then that Dicks mind can make the connection. However, with Jason he is so different now compared to how he was back then that Dicks mind cannot make that connection and therefore HalluciJason still does not interact with the other hallucinations.
ohhh there's actually a panel of supersons 2018 #3 that is exactly ur vision of dick's hallucination of damian! lol the scene itself has nothing to do w it i js thought id share it w you π₯π₯π₯
Ok So I went scouring for the panel is it this one?
Or one of the ones with all the supersons duplicates?
Either way I did kind of want to base Damians hallucination design off of how some artists make him appear super shadowy.
He is also super super heavily inspired by Juni Ba's Damian design. Bc I love this design sm.