Overhyped and underwhelming cartoon. I never bothered to look into the drama around vivziepop, but the pilot that was teased for almost two years ended up being nothing but all the trailers strung together and I was bored to tears halfway thru. Hearing about the drama on top of that was enough to make me unfollow vivzie and blacklist hazbin hotel. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ not surprised people are hoping it flops.

Oh that’s too bad. I loved it, it’s really ambitious. I hope it succeeds but with the way the animation industry is who knows. I only watched one trailer and the animation was so gorgeous and different it really hooked me so I’ve been supporting the project ever since. I’m happy it’s getting a season and wish them luck because they’re going to need it. 

@equalseleventhirds Just to clarify (sorry), I'm just saying that Basira's most prominent trait to Jared was "cop", while Melanie's was "skinny" and Martin's was "weak". To me, that reads a lot more like Melanie is /notably/ skinny, and the others are average. But we have additional evidence to say Martin is bigger. ("I'm not exactly the smallest guy", etc) We don't have that for Basira. Unless there was maybe something her VA or Jonny confirmed that I haven't heard?

Thank you!! That’s honestly my goal when drawing him. Soft and adorable

Just out of curiosity, are you saying that the thing Jared Hopworth said about Melanie (calling her "the skinny one") means Basira is canonically fat? Seems fairly flimsy, given that he only specified the three people there, (Melanie, Martin, and Basira) as "skinny", "weak", and "cop" respectively. I mean, we have far more evidence for Martin being a big dude than for Basira being anything other than average. Obviously, you can headcanon whatever, but to say it's /canon/ that she's fat seems a bit of a reach.

i mean if you read what i said, i in fact said that it’s canon that basira is fat or at least not skinny. various other people have taken this to mean the same thing, and this has been a discussion point in fandom for A While, but your personal reading is up to you, i guess. i’m not sure what ‘far more evidence’ you have that martin is big, given that we p much have the exact same ‘not skinny’ scenario plus him saying that he’s ‘not the smallest guy in the world’, which is one (1) more not-very-clear comment.

i’m also gonna go ahead and say that given that frank voss is fat, fandom’s interaction with basira is, again, gonna be heavily influenced by their perception of her voice actor, which is a fairly large part of how some of the more upsetting comments from fans become upsetting. so she’s about as canonically fat as she is canonically a poc, which is to say, not but we can infer.

omg i was just talking with someone else about those two episodes, I’m pretty sure I went to art school with like half the characters of a perfect vessel lmao. 

THIS IS DELICIOUS THANK YOU!!!!!

2. Nelson has a classic mediterranean complexion -- olive skin, dark hair and hazel-green eyes. Hair’s a bit more on the auburn side though due to influence from his father being a redhead.

3. Nelson is about 5′7″ He’s a little short. He and Michael are classic height difference boyfriends.

5. Nelson cannot dress himself very well. He’s usually business casual -- sweaters, blazers, button downs, vests. He doesn’t know what casual wear is. For a special occasion, he’s very much a suit vest and nice trousers sort. He likes to keep his sleeves rolled up because he has very very nice arms. If it’s cold enough he three-piece suits it up to high heaven.

8. He’s American! Specifically he’s from New England and he has a slight Bostonian accent. He grew up moving all around New England, having been born in Manchester, NH, but moved between Waltham, MA (area outside Boston), Freeport, Maine and Manchester. His parents still live Waltham.

9. Before Nelson moved in with Michael, he was living in Lukas housing. In fact, it wasn’t even a multi-room apartment. He was living in a studio apartment with the world’s smallest kitchen and living space. All his belongings were mostly contained to the four boxes he had mailed over from the States. He never totally unpacked because he and Michael got together only about six months after he moved to the UK. He still has boxes packed even now.

19. He likes children but they’re not for him. He doesn’t mind being around them, in fact he used to offer to babysit for some of the children of the non-bound employees of the Institute. At least until the Spiral started to mess with him. How would he explain to someone that their baby got eaten by a fear entity should one of them wander through one of the doors?

24. He’s not too fond of anyone in the Lukas family particularly because now, after discovering things about the fear entities, he’s noticed how strong the Lonely was in his apartment. He was positively livid when Peter took over the Institute and on more than one occasion tried to lock him in the Spiral. It did not work. He hasn’t met many of the other avatars, but I’m quite sure he would loathe Michael Crew and Simon Fairchild -- Nelson requires an inhaler and he wouldn’t like being around them much. Though I imagine Simon would probably enjoy antagonizing Nelson.

27. Aww this one’s cute. I think he admired how dedicated Michael was to his work. After he learned about what it is Michael had set out for with Gertrude, he found his dedication and his sacrifice to be something rather beautiful. Stupid, but beautiful. Also how he never let his stress show and could actually manage it rather well. And how even though he was so strained from work he never let it affect their relationship negatively.

43. He has CLASSIC millennial humor. Jokes about being dead inside, being overworked, the economy, the world ending. Quintessential millennial humor. Makes comments about how joining with the Spiral is going to damage him a LOT less than his student debt.

45. Oh my god, he’s such a hypocrite, but he’s so annoyed by disorganization. And yet he has a Pepe Silvia display in his office over all his walls and ceiling. And being a Spiral Avatar, it’s almost laughable. He also is highly annoyed about people giving non-answers to questions. Hates it. Absolutely hates it. He hates insincerity and deception. And he is the worst Spiral avatar ever. Worst.

47. Not easily. He wasn’t sad when Gertrude died. He holds her responsible for Michael’s merging with the Distortion and never forgave her. He can only forgive if he can understands what someone has endured to suddenly realize they need to apologize. 

48. When he was younger, he used a fair bit of drugs. Primarily weed, but he was known to use coke on occasion, but if only to energize him during his work. But most of his vices now involve energy drinks and caffeine pills. He doesn’t sleep much anymore due to insomnia. I would also call wandering the Spiral’s hallways a vice. He gets the same sorta high from being in there that he used to get from drugs. Actually the Spiral itself messing with him is kind of one of his vices. He actually enjoys it now.

59. He used to have quite a bit of self-loathing but as he’s proven himself as an academic, he actually kind of thinks he’s hot shit? Sometimes. He’s still a nervous wreck and constantly aware he’s making an ass of himself. But when he’s not mentally telling himself he is the most awkward person in existence he’s like ‘Hey. I’m the best shit in this entire Institute.’

61. To people meeting him for the first time? Probably one of the only normal people to work in the Magnus Institute. Seems very educated, very charming and well put together. Knows how to speak to others without the indication he’s a wreck of a man. To those who knew him. He’s one of those people who gives off wild conspiracy theorist vibes about, but in the way where the shit he talks about is actually very sound logic and he’s a bit of an eccentric genius because of this. Both sides of the coin will agree he is very sociable and very pleasant in conversation.

64. Recording his research. Picked it up from Jon and now he can’t get out of it. Also bugging Helen when he needs answers. Unlike Jon, Helen gives him more legitimate answers because they’re sort of hiveminded together. Also constantly asking people if they want tea. He picked up putting hands on the shoulders of people he’s talking to, and he got that from Michael.

72. Projecting a little here -- he loves synth music. Namely the Alan Parson’s Project and Musical Miracle. The Mind Electric is one of his favorite songs.