Feb 9, 2021
I'm going to buy another GoT book on my birthday (july 18th).
Heck yes!
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I'm going to buy another GoT book on my birthday (july 18th).
Heck yes!
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Sansa thinking of killing Joff but not doing is a mood
book! petyr baelish being completely sarcastic is my reason for livin
Leak discussion
Leak about to be discussed, dont read further if you have no desire to potentially get spoiled.
From what ive seen, grrm said the ending of the show will be similar to the ending of the book.
I havent read the books. So correct me if im wrong. But from the bits and pieces I did read, there's this wildling Val who Jon is into?
I dont know anything more than that. Dont know if she's dead already. But, and im saying this as a jonsa, could showJon going to the wall mean bookJon links up with her?
Are they more endgame than jonsa (in the books)?
Val isnt in the show but showJon going to the wall might be the closest thing that happens if they are endgame in the books?
Could that be the reason why jon ends up at the wall according to the leaks?
Tell me your thoughts pleaaase, I wanna be wrong about this
So I started to listen to asoiaf's game of thrones and in one of Ned chapters (when he rides south with Robert) they talk about the warden of the East. Then Robert says it is promised to Jaime. I... dont get it. In the books the whole vow about lands doesnt exsist in the Kingsguard?
Im only like in the beggining but the only thing that Ned opposes is the fact that Jaime will inherit the West from Tywin and then control both East and West.( and you know him bitching about Jaime per usual). In the TV show Jaime cannot inherit anything, its one of the conflict points in the Lannister family, the whole heir issue.... help?
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Flashback to 2013
For those who dismiss either Deceptive Politician Jon or Endgame Jon & Sansa as recent ideas, borne only from shipper wishful thinking post-S6, please read.
MEAHWHILE, both Jon betraying D thru deception *AND* Jon & Sansa as endgame, are theorized SEPARATELY by online fans BECAUSE OF BOOK QUOTES.
AUGUST 30, 2013. Dream Star, a male ASOIAF forums poster, compiled 3 other posters’ thoughts (danm_99, WeirwoodTreeHugger & Dr. Pepper), who all believed “sweetness” in the J/D undying prophecy of “ A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness” was a bad omen.
“ In ASOIAF, though, "sweetness" and "sweet" are very strongly linked with treachery and deceit (covering up foulness), poison, sinister people, and death, and this is especially true of D's arc. “
Then, DreamStar lists 48, FORTY-EIGHT! BOOK QUOTES to back this up.
They concluded 4 possible outcomes:
It’s Jon vs. D in the end as many speculated & he kills her.
D falls in love with Jon & love kills her (via childbirth or fatal blunder)
D forms an alliance with Jon & Jon dies.
As sweetness is associated with treachery & deceit in D's arc, Jon betrays her in some fundamental way.
Link: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/96024-sweetness-as-a-negative-in-asoiaf-the-blue-flower-in-the-wall-of-ice-and-danys-future/
MAY 19, 2013. Blindestspot posts on Tumblr “ I think Jon/Sansa stands a pretty good chance of happening. “ At this point, in both the books & the TV show, Jon & Sansa are geographically far apart and they have never had a close relationship. Despite this, based upon BOOK QUOTES, Blindestspot makes a compelling case why Jon & Sansa will be endgame and correctly predicts Jon & Sansa to be the first Starks to reunite.
“If one believes in dramatic irony, it is that thoughtlessness in regards to each other (and possibly Sansa’s anvilicious “that could never be” when thinking about seeing him again) that gives them the best chances of being the first (if not only) Starks to reunite. “
“And maybe there will be some twisted poetry and romanticism in Jon/Sansa as Ned and Catelyn 2.0.”
“Of course, other people find Jon/Sansa creepy bc of their (pseudo-)incest. Ironically, it’s exactly this which makes me believe in Jon/Sansa as a real possibility. See, without the incest, Jon/Sansa is a tired, tired trope about a damsel in distress and a dragon-riding/slaying hero. But with the pseudo-incest it becomes the most outrageous and surprising plot twist. “
Link: http://blindestspot.tumblr.com/post/50820774456/jonxsansa
I’m not saying either idea will come true, but in 2013, did you predict Jon & Sansa to be the 1st Starks to reunite? Did you predict they’d be portrayed as Ned/Catelyn 2.0? If not, then I suggest you check these 2 posts out and not dismiss the ideas as without foundation.
You already stopped to think that Petyr once refused the invitation of a whore and did not join in with the fun saying that he was SAVING himself to someone else and he was kind of "forced" under the circumstances to make love to Lysa, in the future. He probably never enjoyed true pleasure, for it must have been quite uncomfortable to do that while the woman screamed like a siren. He died without being able to do this with someone reasonable :(
Petyr, you snake, after all, I'm sad for you.
Even knowing everything he's done, at least that's an "admirable" act. I can count on my fingers how many men in Game Of Thrones have kept themselves to enjoy pleasure only with that person they truly love.