reminds me! there's that one buffabutt apologist that said "I really hate people who go, 'neat motive still murder' on Michinaga because this disregards the traumatic event he's been through"
Is the same person who completely disregards how Sara dying in front of Keiwa would be traumatizing for Keiwa.
I know... right?
Michi might have witnessed Tohru's death and while this might just be insensitive of me to point out, Tohru is STILL just a friend. And as much as I assume that Tohru MUST be very important to Michi.... you don't really see much him caring THAT much about Tohru or people that were in a similar situation as Tohru? Like when he realised that Tohru really died and dead dead and Knight Jyama was still NOT Tohru... he can still like ... abandon Knight altogether 'cos the real Tohru's dead anyway'.
I mean, I get it. They don't like 'us' disregarding Michi's trauma... but on the same vein, be fair and acknowledge Keiwa's trauma.
Also, as much as this addition was super minor and UNIMPORTANT, in the end of the day, Michi's father is still very ALIVE. Aside from Tohru, Michi's life was NEVER that GREATLY affected by the DGP... so whatever he did during the earlier games never really felt justified.
Like I don't want to compare traumas but (aside from Ace) the DGP really screwed with Keiwa's life a lot (and this not even included all the clowning). He had lost his PARENTS because of the DGP, and because of that he and Sara end up being orphans NOT by CHOICE (unlike ancertain cow running away from home) and to see his remaining FAMILY ... his sister DIE in front of him on the hands of someone that he thought could be his FRIEND. How could anyone think that Keiwa's trauma could be any lesser than the cow's? How could Keiwa NOT go crazy after that, even more after he was led to believe that his other important person (Ace) had also abandoned and betrayed him?
Of all the characters in the series that I'd excuse to go God of Destruction on the world, it'd be Keiwa.... AND Ace. We din get to see Geats III in action much anyway.... and there prolly be nothing left remaining if Geats III and Bujin Sword went on rampage together.
Unless Tohru was somehow a BIGGER presence compared to either Mitsume or Sara, I don't see how Michinaga's suffering be any greater than either Ace or Keiwa.
If they still wanna keep harping about 'Keiwa kidnap Tsumuri and used her' argument do recall that Michinaga ALSO made use of Mitsume's power for his own purpose and she's already IS on statue mode and had no will whatsoever. Michi is NOT exempt of their sins either.
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sorry, I just saw a tumblr post saying that Keiwa jumpstarted the apocalypse. It's one of those people who pretend to like Keiwa but really hate him with a passion.
Their words were ".... not to mention jumpstarting the apocalypse because 'his sister got killed'"
I will say this, Buffabutt can be excused for murder and literal manslaughter and being complicit in Beroba's Heaven or Hell game because of Tohru but Keiwa's apparently different.
Do I sound like I was angry in the last reply? 😃 Maybe i was... maybe I'm not 😃
But since I can't really tell if ppl are being serious or sarcastic, I thought I'd cover all the bases regardless.
And yes I AM aware of the aforementioned post... which had been a MAJOR reason that fueled most of my latter buffrage posts.
(regardless I'm still amazed that until now I never really get any asks from Buffa apologist directly trying to argue that their very misguided opinion was not wrong or their cow was innocent. which was really interesting tbh)
ANY mention of ppl trying to insinuate Keiwa started the apocalypse (without the aid of Beroba, Kekera and Jitt) will trigger my Bujin mode. Aside from any attempt to pin a fraud label on my tanuki. Cos really.... the one who truly came close to doing that is STILL the BURNABLE TRASH FRAUD. Oh, that reminds me... another missed opportunity would be for Michi AND Kanato to have a real co-op relationship since the combo of both of their wishes would practically grant them DECADE'S power... those two would've been able to start an apocalypse 😃
Putting this in read more to 'protect' some 'innocent, fragile' hearts 😃 If you react violently to this, it just proved that you're the intended demographic 😃
"Sakurai Keiwa was such a fraud--"
No you. At least my man didn't need to get like.... what? Three retcons (or more?) to his back story and character just to make him be more 'likeable' or more like a 'hero'. Yes, Kei-chan did make some mistakes esp during his darkest moments and owns up to it and he recognised his own weakness... and by the end of the day, he's still the SAME PERSON. Just like how Ace is still Ace even after it was revealed that Ace was not a normal human and Mitsume's child... or like how Neon is still Neon even after the revelation that she was just a replacement for Akari....
But has anyone ever said that Micchi is still Micchi? No? Not even Beroba... poor girl, she'd be the one most frustrated at all these retcons like where pretentious twit that act like he's going to change the world by his own hands but instead rely on sugarmommy to give him a fighting chance to winning a tourney or relying on foxy to fix the world and even trying to consult the supposed 'fraud' on what to do just because he lost his purpose once Fox cancelled the Grand End.
Also this 'argument'
"But what was their 'true' win tally if we remove the wins from Bujin Sword?"
Haha... weak. Then how about we question the true fraud's win tally once we removed all of THEIR wins gained from Jyamashin and all the other cheat wins?
wow. that person must hate Michinaga... they did not just call him a cow but a rotting cow...
I mean its an apt description considering his main buckle is zombie
Zombie is a rotting corpse after all 😃
Tho I feel like it's that they really hate The Cow TM that much, but the more ppl try to justify their defense of the cow so much the more one get aggressive in retaliation. At least in my case.
Like I know our Tanuki isn't always perfect... but seeing all the Tanuki slander isn't good for health. we also need our rant 😃
[It’s not a departure from what was established in the show.
Michinaga wasn’t able to convince Keiwa to abandon the dark road he set out on because he felt guilty for setting him down that path in the first place. That no longer applies in this case, especially now that Michinaga is in lock-step with Ace’s ideals. Michinaga using words to calm the kid down shows this growth as a character, not some sort of retcon because they never said “oh Michinaga has always been great with words, he’s got this”.
Dooms Geats being a departure from the Ace we know was already explained in the movie. In the 1000 years that lie between Dooms Geats’ time and the events of the show, Ace lost his faith in humanity after observing them for that period of time. His friends died out so long ago that and nothing really changed. That’s why he has the white hair and blue eyes. He’s become a dispassionate arbiter of human lives. That’s not a retcon because we had never seen Dooms Geats up until this point and our present-day Ace remains the same as always.
The only “retcon” you claim that I can somewhat agree with is the Michinaga being part-Jyamato bit. But even that’s super minor because they can always say that continuous use of the Jyamato buckle results in a permanent physiological change that can’t be reset, only suppressed. Beroba even mentions in the movie that that part of him is never going away. It’s not that big of a deal.]
and the guy who kept on insisting that the vcine was a huge retcon overall is being downvoted to hell lol.
This will be a LONG RANT. Kinda a pity i cant direct this rant at them.
because he felt guilty for setting him down that path in the first place.
And I thought said 'guilt' would be a strong motivation for Bitchy to try THEIR BEST to convince Keiwa to leave the dark side. I dunno blaming Keiwa for ruining the world was Bitchy trying 'hard' to convince Keiwa to leave Jitt and Kekera? I dunno him justifying killing Sara and the other parasite victim as inevitable since they can no longer be saved was bitchy's way of expressing his remorse? I din knoe blandly saying you killed someone's sister was 'great' way to show that one was feeling guilty? Not until being almost killed by Kekera did Bitch ever admit that he was wrong/commited a grave mistake AND SAID SORRY. But apparently that was how some1 supposed to show that they're 'repenting'. Don't tell me Mich's had been reflecting on his wrong doing all these times while still acting an arrogant jerk who did no sin. Cos he sure dont look like it. Like until he accidentally 'killed' Sara and saw how devastated Keiwa was afterwards, that guy didn't seem bothered about the other kills he had committed. Before or after. Did that guy ever think about Sara when he dropped Keiwa to their death during H&H stage? Don't think so.
MichCow couldn't convince Keiwa to escape the dark side because he felt guilty abt Keiwa? You gotta be kidding me. If he was really feeling guilty, he'll do EVERYTHING he could to get Keiwa back... instead of giving up.
What a ridiculous joke. (i so need a Spanner react gifs) 😧
Ace lost his faith in humanity after observing them for that period of time.
He’s become a dispassionate arbiter of human lives.
That's just lazy writing. Like are they really saying there won't be any other humans having the same heart as Keiwa Neon Win Hotaro Rinne Spanner etc being born/designed throughout the span of those 1000 years? For the dude who insist on 'Hate the sin and not the sinner' it felt like a regression of Ace character to turn White Ace as evil. Why don't we get a goth Black Ace instead? As in white Ace starting to rot away and leaving the darkness... creating black Ace? Then THAT Ace could go evil for all I care. Or have Suel corrupt Ace from the inside. That made more sense than the whole 'become dispassionate' stuff.
Beroba even mentions in the movie that that part of him is never going away. It’s not that big of a deal.
But it DID go away post-JGP, right?
It's no big deal they said, it's minor. Yet post jyamashin onwards Mich DID act like the part of him that turn Jyamato had completely go away; not the way Daichi's Jyamato healing ability and Jyamato powers remained intact post Keiwa's wish despite losing all the other 'perks' he got from eating the fruit frm his Tree of Knowledge, but more to how Neon's and Kanato and Mario's Jyama-zombification went away post game completion. Also the very fact that this was only mentioned in this v-cine already screams retcon. Like the writing suddenly wanted to make the half jyamato thing relevent again despite forgetting about it for almost the entirety of the Yearning and Creation arc.
they can always say that continuous use of the Jyamato buckle results in a permanent physiological change that can’t be reset, only suppressed.
Thing is.... DOES Mich even use Jyama buckle THAT much to cause perma change? Was Jyama buckle on the same level of Boost Mk II in that sense? There wasn't any mention of that.
'It isn't a big deal' but isn't Jyamato Awaking about Hazuki, Haruki and to an extent Daichi and fam and the cow trying to find their place in the world despite their Jyamato side? So shouldn't the plot about Mich actually still retain his Jyama bit be treated better instead of only mentioning it when its convenient?
Like it'd made more sense if it was established that the true source of Jyamashin's power was due to the Jyama cells and not just the Goddess's powers. Also the whole Jyamashin not effective against Jyama armour n Premiums should've be explained better. Like why is it like that?
And one would've think after being turned into half Jyamato undead the guy could show some empathy/hesitance before taking down the parasite Jyamato (Like how Keiwa hesitated abt attacking Rook, even more since these are actual ppl being turn to Jyamato instead of copying the appearance of their 'fertilizers') but nah... he treat em the same with any other Jyamato. Mich still treat things black and white with the same unfeeling attitude. Heck I'd even buy the reasoning that he refused returning to society post JGP was just him self aware then he's no longer full-human and dont fit in. And not cos he's supposed to be dead. cos then the lead up to JyamaAwaking din feel cheap. But the show not doing that, did they?
Like ppl find it hard to believe how the show treat Neon's mom's change of attitude (which is actually not that much diff either) yet when that happened to Michi suddenly the drastic transition from ass to not!ass was 'believable'. For eg. Mich never really properly show how he changed from wanting ALL Kamen Riders to die/want to crush all KR (cos anyone who accepted the drivers to get the wish are inherently selfish and don't deserve to get their wishes granted) to 'I want to save them from their greed/want to protect other people's happiness. Esp when the guy spent a good part of the earlier arcs acting like it's fine if players get killed in-game by the Jyamato... showing that he DON'T care if other people die as long as he wins and gets the power to crush all KR (in which even THAT wish can also go either direction as much as Keiwa's wish to revive DGP victims can either go bad or good). And even when told that even civillians could be sacrificed despite them not chosing to get involved with the DGP, he still DID NOT CARE as long as he can win his game. Heck, Ace could've gone to help Keiwa reach Sara during the Saboten second run but Mich care more about stealing Ninja away so he can be hero instead. (and cos of that Sara was taken) Is THAT the action of a guy who cared about protecting other people happiness from the start?
So they really believe Mich was so caring about other people's innocent lives (aside frm taking revenge for Tohru) from the very beginning? Since when did Mich cared about other ppl's happiness early on?
It's also jarring to see cow go from thinking that killing Ace was what gonna solve all the problems to 'I believe in Ace' stance. Like since WHEN did he believed that? If he really believed in Ace, Mich should also had faith in Ace who still believed in Keiwa and TRUST that there still good in Keiwa enough that he seriously want to SAVE K-chan. If he really believed in Ace, he wouldn't complain abt why Neon got her core id back despite how he already destroyed it (like some sore loser feeling bitter that Ace didn't only care about him but also care a lot about Keiwa, Neon, Win, Daichi, etc)
Daichi's redemption was at least done slightly better than 'sweep under the rug' bullshit redemption. (As in Daichi taking responsibility in taking care of the Jyamato he helped cultivate post series.) And tat's even without us knowing why Daichi obsess about having all knowledge aside frm being a trivia king.
Lel i rant so much to the point i dunno if I make sense anymore.
Michi acting like he had tons of empathy now and can unabashedly go huggy wuggy felt OOC just like it was weird seeing Kusaka being actual nice to innocent Orphnoch kids.
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• honestly, I expected the cliffhanger to end as Ace wakes up at the last moment and dodges, in usual Ace fashion, he's been plotting.. but that didn't happen at all, so it was a simpler yet unexpected surprise.
• So that's how Ace has been living huh. Even he doesn't know all the answers.
He also wondered about how every parent ends up naming 'Ace '. So the ceaser coin keeps coming to him but he also doesn't know why.
His life is a mystery to him as well... *Sigh*
And it's definitely tiring.
On the very 1st episode, Ace gave off the vibe of carrying huge burdens. Now we see what burden. The burden of ...life. tiredness of living.
it's wonderful how the acting could subtly imply this so many episodes ago!!
Existing just for 20 years in this world is tiring enough, and 2000 is... *Sigh*
Still raises some new questions though, like, does Ace instantly remember everything from his previous life even as a baby, or remembers slowly?
All the families he's had so far, didn't he grow any attachments to some, or at one point everything became meaningless because he'll just 'pass by' this life anyway....
• it was nice to see Gene's emotional journey too. Emotions hurt huh.
But why's he leaving, the team up was getting good! (Heard it's because the actor is busy?)
• And a new cast song! I was surprised! Duet from Ace and Gene, rider and sponsor. I honestly didn't think of this idea before, so are we getting more? 😃
"Live for the moment" is a beautiful song too! None of the actors sounded like pro singers (unlike keiwa, Neon and Michinaga's actor's musical experience) but who cares, the tune, melody, lyrics, sounded so nice!
• Beroba is 350 years old, and the actress is 15 in real life. Both cases seems visually impossible so I don't know fiction-reality, anything anymore. Lol
• Good thing Michinaga has plans to overthrow jellybean. Still hoping he has a more interesting wish he's not telling anyone yet.
- interview opening style continues, now it's Keiwa-kun.
- very nice action scenes again, I'll just shut up and watch.
- Keiwa meets kero-chan!
- oho, so it's the sponsor who kept sending boost buckle to keiwa!! And I thought it's because of Tycoon's enhanced luck.
- Don't tell me you're actually surprised at the possibility of sparrow-chan being the desaStar.
- Ace meets Michinaga! But how did Ace know he'd be alive and walking on the streets....?
- I like the background sound of ambulance siren btw...
- Ace-kun brought onigiri
- Michinaga having a wider perspective on life now..ah...
You gonna tell Ace the details?
- oh Jamatos will deeeefinitely take advantage of you, Michinaga-kun. Hmm, you're Michi-kun from now!
- lol fix the ID core with rice 🤣
- Ahem cough cough... Why are you exposing me, new game master-san? Yes I totally agree, I'm here to watch all the thrills and twists!
- Ace can cook steaks, where is the kitchen btw... The meal looks delicious
- you're not totally free of suspicion either, Ace-kun....
- ohho, Michi-kun having health issues
- *choke* producer-san, what did you just say? 🤣 'Real, death, to have impact?' Ahahaha... In kamen rider? Huhuhaha
- okay, so human looking Jamatos just copy the looks from ID cores. FOR NOW at least.
- Don't be so confident Ace-kun, I still believe you'll turn out to be an exceptional case of Jamato.
- Keiwa being the hero he is and gaining trust, as the formula goes. But I still have my reasons to suspect huhuhu!
- final voting time... Aaand... It's sparrow-chan! We've completed round 1 of among us, let's see if they found the imposter.
Please don't be the spy sparrow-chan, that'll be way too boring and where's the fun then
- yee producer dumping Michinaga in Jamato town.. and lol again at the 'real death' comment! Thanks for considering our entertainment, producer-san!
This feels like a writers table debate 🤣
- yesss sparrow isn't the desaStar. Good, that's what we need.
Now that Keiwa has been suspected, and then gained trust, it'll be the perfect twist for him to turn out to be the spy after all!! Muhuhaha! That'll be (in game master voice) ✨Entertainment ✨!!
