Not really a question but merely me mentioning what I have begun to believe lately. I truly do believe that Undertaker is Vincentâs father and the twinsâ grandfather, however I think that Claudia was not born a Phantomhive, instead having married into the family. I think Francis instead of being the child of Claudia and Cedric (whom I believe is Undertaker, obviously) is the child of Claudia and her real husband, who was a true Phantomhive. Thoughts about this and how it might affect things?
Hello, first of all, and thank you for sharing your thoughts with me! First, for reference:
Hmm⌠Claudia not being born a Phantomhive would be difficult. Thereâs nothing really canon to say she was or was not born a Phantomhive (except for that family tree? maybe?), but thereâs a few hints: for her to not be born a Phantomhive, but still be a Watchdog/Earl, as it is hinted in the following images, sheâd have had to marry a Phantomhive⌠but why would she be the Earl, if so? I donât think the Phantomhives would let the titles go to someone other than one of their own. Even if sheâd married an earl who died, I think the title wouldâve been passed to another person from the family (brother, sister, cousin), not to her. Itâs what I think.
How would Claudia not being a Phantomhive by blood would affect things? Well, if Vincent was Claudia and Undertakerâs son, and neither of his parents were a Phantomhive by blood, then the twins wouldnât be Phantomhive by blood either, and this whole talk of Undertaker not wanting to lose another âPhantomhiveâ wouldnât mean anything anymore, itâd be in vain. Theyâd still have the name, of course, but not the blood.
To sum it up⌠I find it difficult, Claudia not being a Phantomhive by blood. Not impossible, just difficult.
Claudia being a Phantomhive by blood doesnât affect the whole situation with Frances, though. She could still have another father, maybe a so-called âlegitimate husbandâ of Claudia. If Frances had another father, it would certainly make the whole Cedric=Undertaker situation a lot, looot easier (because you can have one child with another man, but two children makes the situation difficult). For example, she couldâve passed Vincent, a child she wouldâve had with Undertaker, as her legitimate husbandâs, et voilĂ ! Done. But to have both children with Undertaker would complicate the situation, although this must have been discussed multiple times in the fandom already.Â
However, thereâs the following tweet from Yana translated by our dear @akumadeenglish (all credits for it!!!! and many thanks. Iâve just reblogged it on my account, please do check it out).
âThe Phantomhive siblings, Vincent and Frances, share the same concept as the Midfords siblings, Edward and Lizzie, i.e. I draw them with the typical image of âgirls take after their father, boys after their motherâ in mind. So maybe Cielâs grandfather looks like Edward :) -Toboso  â
âCielâs grandfather looks like Edwardâ this hints directly at Ciel and Edward having the same grandfather⌠which nullifies the Frances having another father theory, unfortunately. However, none of this is actually canon yet, and that was pretty much 4 years ago, so she can change her mind. But, as for now, Frances and Vincent should have the same father.
So yeah, this is how things look like. Iâm sorry this got to be such a huge post⌠and thank you for your message again! (^ĚŽ^) Welcome back to the fandom!













