The Snow Queenâs death is probably one of the saddest in Once Upon a Time ngl
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The Snow Queenâs death is probably one of the saddest in Once Upon a Time ngl

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"A Time for Everything" new chapter: "Warmth"
This chapter covers the events of Once Upon a Time Episode 4x02, "White Out." Hook and David must get along as they race against the clock to free Emma from an ice cave. Afterward, Hook is invited to stay while Emma recovers.
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Just reviewing some things from the Frozen arc in Once Upon a Time. Looking back, this was when the show truly went off the rails for me. Yes, the whole Zelena thing was bad. But, I felt like they could still recover from it at that point.Â
One of the big problems with Frozen is that this was when âgoodâ became defined as âanything the good guys doâ and bad was âanything the bad guys do,â even when they were doing the same thing.
Gold was not coping well with things like having been dead, a year of horrible enslavement, torture, and insanity topped off with the death of his son. He was somehow blocked from fighting Ingrid directly (possibly because of Annaâs command to not harm her âsisterâ). Although he made some attempts to stop Ingrid from killing everyone in the town, when those fell through, he ruined the attempt being made to counteract Ingridâs curse as part of his plan to at least save his family. This is clearly not a good thing.
Later in the show, Elsa sabotages an effort being made to counteract Ingridâs curse so she can find her sister, who she hadnât seen for 28 years, rather than wait a couple more hours (Anna, as it turned out, had gotten herself into a life or death mess and didnât have a couple hours. But, neither Elsa nor anyone else knew that).
So, not to save her family. Sheâs just willing to risk killing thousands of people because, you know, sisters.
Emma comes along and tries to get the magic macguffin that will save everyone but decides to help Elsa instead.
So, sheâs just agreed to sacrifice her family--her mother, father, brother, son, evil stepgrandmother--and thousands of other people because . . . I donât know. She somehow lost her ability to say no while we werenât looking? Apparently, sitting back and letting mass slaughter happen is one of those things friends do for each other?
At best, if we assume Elsa somehow knew Anna was in trouble (even though nothing in the show suggests that), these actions are morally equivalent. As portrayed in the show, Elsa and Emmaâs actions are worse. Gold may be overly cynical and trying to justify his actions, but he makes his choice believing everyoneâs going to die. He is trying to save two people from disaster when he knows he believes thatâs all he can save.Â
Elsa and Emma give every indication of believing the plan will work. Even if Elsa knew Anna was in trouble, this choice, as given in the show, is to try to save one person (Kristoff was a lucky second) at the deliberate sacrifice of everyone else.
But, Goldâs choice is portrayed as evil while Emma and Elsaâs is portrayed as good for no reason except that Emma and Elsa are card carrying members of team Good Guy.
Iâm not opposed to Gold being the bad guy if the show had been examining the pressures and moral ambiguities heâs working with. Whereâs the line between justification and rationalization? Sometimes, there are no good choices. But, does the lack of good alternatives justify the choices he made? Did he give up hope of a better alternative too soon? Or was he simply facing the inevitable? I would have loved to have seen the show exploring that.
Elsa and Emma make horrifying choices. Is this selfishness or naivete? It could be argued that their being driven by the opposite of what drove Gold, not accepting that choices had to be made and that their decisions had costs. It would have been great to see Emma, at least, realizing what her actions almost cost and weighing what this means about her as a person, recognizing that the savior almost killed everyone.
Related Plot Point: The plot makes it clear Gold canât directly fight Ingrid (one of his arguments to get her to let him leave with Belle and Henry is that, if she doesnât, he will spend the rest of his immortal life finding a way to make her pay), but the show is never quite clear why he canât.
The best answer seems to be that, when Anna commanded Rumple with the dagger not to hurt her sister, the command covered Ingrid (even though Anna never seems to have been onboard with Ingridâs sister obsession).Â
In which case, could we explore the fact that a well-intended wish by a well-intended person nearly killed everyone? I mean, if youâre talking about moral ambiguity and how all magic comes with a price, a massacre triggered by good intentions has got to up there.
If, on the other hand, the blame is on the dagger/Rumpleâs curse for interpreting it that way, thatâs also something that needed to be explored more.
Frozen Swan
I got sucked into rewatching the Frozen arc of OUAT (solely because of a Frozen Swan gifset that I saw a few days ago) and I noticed something that totally shook me. Letâs take a look:
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Does that remind you of anything? Any of the following?:
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Granted, in the case with Emma and Elsa there was more light but Emmaâs powers were acting out at the time and it wasnât a kiss. There were still rainbow shimmers before and after the light though (even some remaining as the camera shifts back to Elsaâs face) so basically what I am saying is that Emma and Elsa had a True Loveâs Kiss without the kiss part. You can interpret that as platonic or romantic but it is certainly love. And as weâve seen they really understand each other and were both willing to take extreme risks to help the other. That is love right there and the show went above and beyond to show it.

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I liked the Frozen arc ;_;
yesssss!! Iâm so glad some of you liked it as well!
I mean, I totally understand the hate it received, but DAMN the Frozen arc also had its pros and like, it was 9 episodes of pure gold filled with some precious moments that were absolutely in-character and it was hilarious!!
OUAT!Elsa being the sarcastic queen we all dreamt to see
âIâm not bossy, Iâm the Queenâ LIKE HONESTLY, ICONIC
âWould you prefer a slide or a spiral staircase?â every time OUAT!Elsa said something magic-related it was either precious or absolutely hilarious omg
every Elsa and Kristoff interaction ever was pure and very realistic tbh
the moment she created that bridge over that pit??? GODS
the absolutely clever relationship between Emma and Elsa
like, never in my life I loved a BROTP more than this one it was utter genius, they have so much in common, and i never realized it, help,
also Emma is Elsaâs only friend apart from Anna and Kristoff OMG HELP
anyway letâs stop talking about Elsa can we please talk about how Elizabeth freaking Lail totally nailed it as Anna
Elizabeth Lail is Anna in a modern AU tbh
or ABC developed a machine that allows Disney characters to come to life and they renamed Anna Elizabeth Lail thereâs no other freaking explanation
yeah so Liz was literally perfect as Anna and played her with a genuine love for the character and a perfect balance between naivety and badassery
Anna and Belle being friends for a day??? YES????
That ICONIC moment when Anna ran after Elsa in the woods while wearing a GODDAMN WEDDING DRESS
Oh the whole wedding dress reveal scene between the two sisters was absolutely adorable I could watch it again and again
Anna and Elsa Constantly Supporting Each Other(TM)
Ingrid was annoying but a brilliant villain and Emma and Elsa interactions with her were quite clever + sometimes very funny
most of the main characters treated Elsa and Anna with respect even though they lied to them half of the time lol
THE. TRUNK. SCENE. WHEN. ANNA. MARRIES. KRISTOFF. WHILE. SOBBING. BECAUSESHETHINKSTHEYAREABOUTTODIEHELPPP
and when you think youâve had your heart crushed enough for the episode...
THAT. REUNION. SCENE. ON. THE. BEACH.
KILL ME IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL
ELSA AND ANNA BEING SO EXCITED TO SEE THE OTHER IS ALIVE AND HASNâT AGED THEY SCREAM AT THE SAME TIME OH MY HEART
the whole cave scene with Ingridâs sacrifice - very stupid and hilarious for a villain death but it was a good scene for the other characters
The Final Scene Where They Go Hand In Hand To The Altar(TM)
anyway Iâm a little bit obsessed by this arc can you tell
for my defense itâs actually legit because I hated season 3 and then hated season 5 so this arc in season 4 was like, a silver lightning piercing through the clouds of an enormous storm
if anyone knows what I'm talking about I will be really happyÂ
but did anyone else get once upon a time frozen arc vibes during Olafâs frozen adventure, when Anna and Elsa were looking for stuff in the attic?Â
It was so strange cause I recognized the scene but it was still very different.Â
"A Time for Everything" new chapter: "Acceptance"
Between Episodes 4x03 and 4x04, Emma talks to her family about her love life. Graham's death is acknowledged, David's conversation with "Prince Charles" is remembered, and Henry faces the reality of his mother dating Captain Hook. Ultimately, Emma accepts her feelings, and her family accepts her relationship with Hook.
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