Hi, can you please do Blackpink Lisa and Frederic Arnault relationship dynamics? thank you.
There's a difference in power between them - Frederic is more authoritarian/controlling to her. She is obedient towards him. His temper is not the best but she endures because he can bring her a lot of wealth/career opportunities/fame. He knows that she wants his help to climb even further up.
There's a business element to their relationship.
I feel he sees her sort of like a doll/an object more so at times. He may seem polite or kind, but sometimes his words to her aren't really what you'd say if you're treating someone with respect. He can have this condescending attitude, likely due to his upbringing. She tries her best to please him/fit his ideals/fit his family's expectations. There is a lot of pressure on her end to try to fit in with this family/their circle of friends. She can feel very stressed as a result. She likely will never feel that she really fits in nor will his family ever see her truly as one of them. She just unfortunately stands out in their eyes like an outlier. She is only considered useful now because she is famous.
In the long run, she can feel very jaded/unhappy about this relationship. She shouldn't be expecting fidelity in this relationship as well. If they ever do marry, she will live at least for a while in luxury but then it will likely be a very tough marriage for her. She likely would suffer emotionally/mentally.
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With Fredric and Lisa, what will that mean for Lisa? I know he was the main source of getting her opportunities and being in spaces where it doesnāt make sense on why sheās there but with both of them cutting ties with each other, how will this affect her solo career? TBH after this tour Bp isnāt going to be doing much as a group anymore and will be focusing on their solo careers. So with him not playing a part in that for Lisa will things change regarding her solo career? Will she get a new sponsor? I donāt trust RCA will do much for her tbh
well, here's controversial question..
are frederic and lisa stil... business partners at least?
ace of pentacles rx, 8 of wands rx, the chariot, queen of cups, 10 of swords rx
... uh, no?
now, to the situation with lisa. she lost most of the connections that frederic had. congratulations.. but i don't know if it's for her good or bad.
Per request. There is no birth time so in-depth predictions are impossible. Take it as entertainment.
This is using Vedic so sign placement will be different than tropical.
I believe he is (or was) rumoured to be dating LISA of Blackpink. I don't actually know much about this guy or Blackpink. I stuck to simply analyzing his placements.
Romantic Relationships
His Venus-Mars conjunction is loose as the planets are more than 5 degrees apart. He is likely to be intense in personal relationships but not to the same extreme as other Venus conjunct Mars people.
His Scorpio Venus is likely to manifest as a deep desire to understand. He goes underneath the surface. If he has interest in someone, he is likely very direct and inquisitive. He wants to know everything about that person. This can come off as too intense for some people. They may be like āwoah I just met you chilllā but compatible placements will understand his bold nature. Itās best he dates another water sign Venus or Moon.
Ā Scorpio Venus can occasionally manifest as having partners where the power imbalance is very off. Scorpio is associated with power. They want to use their power to help and protect their partner. Having this power over their partner makes them feel in control and confident.
Venus Anuradha pada 3, this indicates a beautiful and social/charming partner. His partner will be intelligent and have a good eye for aesthetics/design/art. This is due to this pada connection to Venus. His partner will be someone balanced and diplomatic. His partner will be subtle (not directly show off-y), romantic/aesthetic driven and hardworking.
He is unlikely to experience the negatives of this conjunction to an extreme. This is because Venus holds the lowest degree which makes Venus in control of the conjunction. Jupiterās aspect to Mars helps guide the Marsā energy. This will prevent Marsā from getting out of control and being overly aggressive, dominating and controlling.
However, in the sign of Scorpio he will be very jealous. This sign is possessive of what belongs to them. Venus in Scorpio shows he is possessive over what Venus symbolizes - his partner, his wealth, & the themes of which houses Venus rules and is placed in.Ā
Venus Scorpio are very loyal but donāt forget this sign is connected to sexual pleasures and secrets. If dissatisfied in that area, they can be inclined to secretly look elsewhere. This would be the negative manifestation of Venus Scorpio. In conjunction to Mars, this adds to that drive. In his case, Jupiter is conjunct Mars making it so that Marsās energy has Jupiter to guide it in a positive direction. Mars holds the lowest degree in conjunction to Jupiter tho. Mars dominating Jupiter can create conflict as Mars (the solider) is not always inclined to listen to Jupiter (the mentor/teacher) before taking action.
However, I am not saying he is a cheater at all. We donāt know house placements so we donāt actually know where this energy Is being placed. For all I know, this is his 10th House making it so that he moves in secret for his career and is driven in career - to the point where he may be tempted to get to the top by almost any means neccessary - moral or immoral. This might sound bad but business can be cut throat especially in higher up positions.
He has or will experience many heartbreaks with these placements.
Personality, Upbringing, Communication:
Aries Moon shows someone independent who takes action. They arenāt afraid of bold moves. This indicates a competitive person. They donāt respect lazy people. They push otherās to get up and take action. Itās that fighter mentality - motivating your fellow soldiers.Ā
This Aries moon being ruled by a Scorpio Mars shows he likely hides how much he wants to win. He takes action in private, he doesnāt want people to know his next move.Ā He observes and calculates his plans before making a move.
His Moon aspecting Saturn shows he is less likely to deal with the negatives of being impatient and impulsive. Saturnās positive aspect gives the ability to be patient, work hard, make rational moves. Saturn in Aqua shows his work can be innovative. His thinking is naturally future oriented, he wants to make an impact on the masses through his work.Ā
Aries Moon shows his mother may have been an action-orientated person too. She may have motivated him to do well. She could have been almost aggressive in protecting and pushing him to succeed.Ā
Libra Mercury conjunct Sun shows a social and intelligent person in conversation. Upon first impression, you wouldnāt see the intense scorpio nature in him. You would see him as a calm and balanced person. This is good in business as he can be deceptive. Heāll charm a group of people and theyāll have no idea about his true intention. He could be a good negotiator too.
However, Moon in the opposite sign shows he can slip up. There is conflict as his Moon is headstrong and wants to independently take charge. His Mercury and Sun wants to be liked by other people.
Finding a balance between being an authority and being a partner/team member is something he has to learn. It likely doesnāt come naturally to him.
Keep in mind we donāt have his birth time. Without house placementās we donāt fully know whatās going on in his chart. Take it as entertainment only š
this is all alleged and for entertainment purposes only.
are they still together?
7oc rx, aoc, the chariot rx
i feel like something has happened between them, this is giving on-off vibes. Break up make up break up make up type of thing. I feel like she misunderstood something in their relationship and now she's waking up and her dreams are kinda shattered. It's like he's saying like a but she misunderstood is as b, so he's likeā¦ "wait, i said that?" kind of thing? 8os rx, the moon, 5os, they talked about something, definitely, argument, I feel like there's a power play between them. Like he kinda have the power rn tbh, there's like a secret of her that he keeps, that's why he have this power. I'm leaning with they just broke up and got back together.
shuffle
how does his family think of her?
7oc, kop rx, 8op rx
uuuu 7oc in a row. Yeah i'm guessing it makes sense. They see her as someone that's kind of dreamy in terms of connection and kind of lazy in working tbh like yeah i guess she has work but like, her money is not reflecting it and like i know she's hardworking and stuff, but they don't see it as real job. Why do i feel so mean in this reading? I feel so mean istg i have nothing personal to Lisaā¦ but i feel like they think of her like "yeah, she's dreaming to be part of this family" kind of stuff???? Like "yeah we know she wants to be part of this family, she dreamt of it, so keep dreaming!" ā¦istg those French elites... They see her as an opportunist in terms of money. 3os rx, pos rx, 4ow rx tells me that they know about the break up previously, and they gossip a lot about her. They think she rely on Fred too much, they don't like it. They don't think she brings in that much money anymore with the p behind. They gossip a lot, and they kinda like cheer when they broke up? Like a "finally!!!" stuff? but now they got back together they kind of "oh shit" moment. Wof rx, 6oc rx, the lovers, tells me that they see Lisa as kind of outdated nowadays, association with her brings some bad lucks to them, like she's in her unlucky phase. No growth. She's unwelcomed, i think the kpop label is not kpoping as it used to, so they kinda see her as dull now. They want to sever her contracts or partnership, or maybe they can't wait for it. It's like "yeah, you're kinda meh now." stuff. Crazy... i seriously hope if she ever gets out, she can get out unschated tbh. this kind of family is never the one for me.
can you do an update reading on lisa and frederic?
lisa & frederic
lisa: it seems like lisa has been feeling a bit stuck in this connection, although she's still trying to keep things moving forward. between them two, there seems to be an energy of companion and collaboration that they both like, so i don't really sense many romantic feelings coming from lisa besides that. their connection seems to be going through some type of changes, or perhaps they had to go through some changes in the past, but i feel like lisa really likes the sense of stability that frederic gives her. she's comfortable, and it's why she feels okay with moving forward with it.
frederic: frederic energy seems a bit off because he's currently reconsidering many aspects of his life. he's debating between two options regarding his connection with lisa, trying to find a balance. i don't think frederic and lisa are as close as they appear. he feels conflicted about his feelings towards her and hasn't expressed everything to her. the connection has progressed quickly, leaving him feeling overwhelmed. he's been contemplating whether to continue this relationship, and he's at a decision-making point. frederic has been reflecting a lot on his feelings. while he does have some feelings for lisa, he needs to reassess his options and determine if he's comfortable with how things are now. they've definitely experienced changes, and their connection isn't what it was when they first started spending time together.
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Okay these two were difficult to get an answer out of š. So for now they are "taking it slow". They are getting to know each other still. They mostly met for reasons of good fortune. So they both have similar goals from a business standpoint or this could mean they met because of business endeavors. Frederic is very generous and a good provider so he sees himself as someone who can be a stable person in Lisa's life. He could have given her an offering or some sort of gift that she felt was very sweet and heartfelt. Lisa sees some parts of herself in him and would also like to have this dynamic of security and comfort. I'm getting that he's not her usual type visually but Lisa likes this about him. She enjoys his personality and his company. Frederic could remind her of her (step) dad in some aspects. They're both hesitant with this Four of cups and Four of pentacles. They're like "Do I make a move"? "Do I wait for them to make a move"? I believe Lisa has her guard up. She could secretly be a hopeless romantic but since she is so focused on her career, she is wondering how will things turn out if she decides to date someone. I think that he will reach out to her and contact her. Frederic could write or say something that's going to convince her. It's a small proposition though it's nothing too crazy, but it'll be enough for Lisa to come around. "Only time will tell.". So they are both leaving it up to the universe on whether or not they stay acquaintances or something more. (Clarified by The Lovers & Ten of Pentacles) I don't think they're fooling anyone here like bffr š. Lisa and Frederic will most likely end up being in a long term relationship together. Dare I say they could even get married? These two cards are strong indicators of starting a family. They could even discuss having children together and if not children, they could like to raise a pet(s) together.
