#foxflux

I mean, of course she's trivializing it.

That's the entire point of that specific twitter thread.

She's saying it's "curious priorities" that jasonafex wasn't banned for being a racist transphobe, but was instead banned for something Eevee doesn't see as that big of a deal, let alone a bannable offense. [That "no big deal" something being, Jasonafex created and uploaded child porn.]

She downplays and justifies the child porn further by saying 'it was years ago' (similar to how she defends herself), that the 16 year old who made moans for the porn is jasonafex's wife, and that the victim 'doesn't see themselves as being hurt'.....As if a n y of those things make creating and uploading child porn better?

I don't know anything about jasonafex outside of Eevee's post here, and if he is a racist transphobic asshole I agree he should have been banned from FA for that.

But to trivialize the fact the dude created and uploaded child porn is fucking insane. Also, hey, just saying, but if Eevee thinks that creating and uploading child porn shouldn't get you banned on FA, then that means that Eevee also still thinks that creating and uploading child porn should be legal.

BRO THAT THREAD SUCKS.

Eevee is always like "I don't support child porn!!! Those tweets were I said child porn should be legal are from 2012 and don't represent me!!!" then dead fucking ass argued that banning jasonafex on FA for producing and posting child porn is "curious priorities".

they dont think marl should be in jail purely because they only have a issue with him because he slighted them by admitting clearl and to the point that he did something bad to the children ash loved to spew verbal abuse about along with apologizing to one child (in a attempt to manipulate) that ash thought deserved to be punished for trying to speak up about said abuse. he acknowledged he-and anyone helping him-did something bad. he acknowledged that ash did something bad. and the worst thing possible for them is having the awful things they do pointed out

I think you're overcomplicating this, and overcomplicating this kinda plays into what someone like Glip wants. Because they don't want you to think about what it actually means if we were to live in a world where Marl's crimes weren't worthy of prison.

Because, if Marl doesn't deserve prison, it means Glip thinks the following should be legal:

Animal sexual abuse / Animal abuse

Production of zoo porn

Attempted production of child porn

Sexual Harassment of a minor

I-

Eevee is probably one of the main members of the group I talked about the least comparatively, because her main deal is that whenever someone talks up about being abused by Glip, or back in the day Marl, Eevee is right there front and center with a snarky, ill-thought out, long-winded defense of them.

In other words, she's an accomplice.

So there isn't anything more that isn't already in my pinned post. So, I guess I'll make this my main post on why Eevee is likely an accomplice to sex crimes against both children and animals.

Compared to both Glip, Marl, and even other people in the group like Iz: Eevee has significantly less people who have been directly abused by her that we are aware of. Cordy Fox is the only person who has publicly decided to speak about being abused by Eevee, and even though she hasn't gone into much detail, I'm generally inclined to believe her. Especially because I know of at least one other individual who was abused by Eevee who has decided to not speak on it publicly.

That said, the chances that Eevee wasn't aware that Marl was at least sexually abusing the family dog are practically zero.

For starters, given Eevee's tendency of having a pro-pedophilia and pro-zoophilia sentiment, I question the idea that Marl would feel the need to hide his zoophilic and pedophilic tendencies from his then roommate.

Even if Marl did try to hide his habits from his roommate (Eevee) and his then-spouse (Glip) - Eevee herself has pointed out that Marl wouldn't have been able to film child porn / zoo porn without her and Glip knowing.

....And, yeah, she's right. Glip has always worked from home and so did Marl. I'm unsure if Eevee was at the time work from home, and despite what Glip is saying here in these very same tweets, they later admitted to being aware that Marl was filming porn of the family dog Apollo since Marl cheated on them with Exty.

Marl cheated on Glip with Exty in early 2013 or late 2012 by the way.

So that means Glip was aware that Marl was sexually abusing the dog when Lain first came forward in later 2013 about Marl sending her photos of dog dicks.

A lot of people have in one way or another spoken about how Marl brought up his love of dogs to them or was creepy with them after the log leak. We got Big Fluff and Lain obviously, but there's also Exty, Rootie, Pengo, an anon who spoke to Pengo, and Junglekawa.

The implication here being, Marl did this often to a lot of different people.

We know from Lain, specifically, that Marl felt comfortable enough predating on children by sending them photos of dog genitalia on Eevee's IRC network.

To those that don't know, Eevee, being the admin of the IRC network, had access to chat logs that happen within her IRC, including, likely, direct messages.

And Marl was comfortable enough to send a then 13 year old photos of dog genitalia on this network. Knowing his roommate, Eevee, would have access.

And frankly, why wouldn't he be comfortable with his friend who questions if child porn should be illegal having access to these logs of him sexually harassing a child with zoophilic images? When Lain came forward and talked about what Marl did to her, and even asked Eevee specifically to give her logs.

Eevee would turn around and only provide selected snippets of the logs while slandering the character of the 14 year old girl, claiming to not have anything else.

Even though Eevee could have easily proven Lain a liar easily by just sharing unedited DM's between Lain and Marl....She didn't. There are no DM's between the two shared by Eevee at all, actually!

I wonder why Eevee didn't share the DM's between Marl and Lain. Sure is a mystery why she didn't share the logs that would have proven Marl innocent immediately if she was right and Lain was lying. Weird she didn't do that! I guess platforming the words of the fourteen year old's other abusers is more important though.

Lain was one of the first people to come forward about Marl being a zoophile, and was the first to come forward about Marl being a pedophile. Chatlogs would later be leaked of Marl doing the same thing to a different child (that thankfully: Occurred on a platform besides Eevee's IRC.) would definitively prove Lain's claims from years ago to be true.

Even if Eevee somehow didn't have admin access to Marl and Lain's direct messages - they lived together. The fact Glip and Eevee both didn't go to Marl physically and say "Show me your direct messages with this 14 year old girl who says you're sexually harassing her with images of dog genitalia" WHEN GLIP WAS FULLY AWARE THAT MARL WAS FILMING ZOO PORN OF APOLLO JUST EARLIER THAT YEAR TELLS THE ENTIRE STORY.

So if Lain was telling the truth, why didn't Eevee or Glip have the logs? Was it incompetency? Or were they both only sharing select snippets of the logs to protect their then roommate/partner?

And remember, Marl did this to a lot of people. If he was comfortable enough to do this to Lain in a place where Eevee had log access, how many others did he do this too in Eevee's IRC? While knowing Eevee when push came shove, would protect him?

Additionally, I'm inclined to believe Marl abused Apollo in that house often. Zoophiles often make the dogs wear mittens on their front paws so they don't get scratched when the dog mounts someone. Front paw mittens don't really serve any other practical purpose.

Eevee uploaded a video of Twigs and Apollo playing with Apollo wearing these mittens, and based on how she responded, when confronted about this, Apollo probably wore these mittens all the time, meaning he was abused often.

And now consider this in 2006:

A lot of people glaze over these because of the date, but it's important to understand that Eevee's not just playing the role of an edgy devil's advocate here as she would later claim. She's knowledgeable on how animal sexual abuse works and is excited about it.

She is specifically aware that beastiality is legal in some places.

She is specifically aware that when it comes to sexually abusing a dog, it involves the dog being on top. Which is how Marl abused Apollo and why Apollo needed those front mittens specifically.

She specifically claims to know people who are attracted to certain animals more then people.

She specifically claims that zoophila is safe, that it rarely damages the genitals of humans or animals.

She specifically claims that horse vagina is tight enough to pleasure a human male.

She specifically claims that very few diseases can cross between species boundaries while engaging in Zoophilia.

She specifically claims that she enjoys 'doggysex', the same type of Zoophilia Marl trained the future family dog to engage in.

This isn't the words of an edgy devil's advocate. This is someone who knows what they're talking about. This is someone who would be able to recognize why the family dog wears mittens on the front paws.

You have *real evidence* for why Eevee is bad, so I don't like defending her. But "she hates a bad bill and was venting, let me take her words out of context to make her come across as a predator" comes across as needlessly petty and cruel

You go on and on and on about context, all while not only ignoring the context of the very post you're complaining about, but ignoring the context of the things Eevee has done entirely.

The context that the very same woman who claimed she "doesn't have a solution" to the question on if minors should be segregated from NSFW spaces; not only had a solution to the very same problem a decade earlier. But that she felt so strongly about this solution that she tried to act on it by using her then employment at furaffinity to push for policy change that would allow kids on the site easier access to porn on the platform. (This testimony is from 2009, well before Eevee came out.)

The context that this is the very same woman who tried to argue that child porn that was made by abusing actual children shouldn't be illegal because "an image of a crime shouldn't be illegal".

The context that this is the same woman who over half a decade after arguing the child porn should be legal, found it "curious priorities" to ban a racist transphobe off furaffinity for creating and uploading child porn on the platform. Because "it was only the 16 year olds moans and she's now an adult and married to the guy".

The context that this is a woman who is, right now, developing a fetish game and is actively advertising it to communities with kids in it and is giving it a general rating because the fetish isn't obviously NSFW.

The context that this is a woman who has a leadership position of a community that has enabled and protected sexual predators, including pedophiles, multiple times, and someone who has specifically taken part in enabling and protecting those pedophiles within said community, multiple times. Just looking at Marl and Iz alone without going into other predators I haven't even made posts about like Twee.

Which, by the way, since Marl has since been definitively revealed to be both a pedophile and a zoophile, and talked to kids in exactly the same way Lain described years before this was proven combined with the fact Eevee had access to the IRC logs as the IRC admin here, and she even makes a point of that fact to defend Marl from Lains accusations & slander Lain only leads to one of two conclusions. That either Eevee is wildly incompetent and didn't or couldn't check the DMs between Marl and Lain, or that Eevee was sitting on chat logs of Marl being a zoophile and pedophile and made the active, informed decision to withhold that evidence, not call the cops on her then pedophile roommate, and protect that zoophile and pedophile while slandering the at the time 14 year old child, despite the 14 year old asking Eevee specifically to get logs.

The context that this is a woman who still to this day, slanders two children who came forward about Marl as "just kiwi farmers". All while knowing that Marl tried to produce dog porn of one of them when she was 16, and the other one who Eevee again personally slandered when she was just 14 for daring to speak up about the pedophile sending her photos of dog dicks.

Here is an archive of the post she's talking about, by the way.

The context that this is a woman who has been accused of soliciting and obtaining nudes of someone when they were a fucking minor.

In case you still don't get it: there is a pattern here. That's what my post was pointing at.

The pattern in it of itself recontextualizes Eevees motives to the tweet. Much like how Glip making porn of their self insert and their cats self insert was just "weird" until it came out they let that very same cat perform oral sex on them.

i really do worry that there's gonna be sanctioned harassment done by the people running it. and people won't believe it until there's so much damage done and people hurt everywhere. it gives me so much vibes of 'imagine if the site owner doesn't like you but now they can also fuck with you because they have your email address and other info'.

at least on tumblr most people believe the ceo is fucked up.

The thing is, Floraverse thrives because most of the people in it fall into at least one of three groups. These groups are not mutually exclusive.

Abuser

Actually a child or a very young adult

Abuse victim unable to realize what is going on around them.

When building a social media site, more than just these types of people will inevitably join the platform, and push come shove, when they see cohost's incompetent / biased management for themselves, they won't tolerate it.

I was able to uncover egregious incompetence / bias from Cohost's staff by simply reporting a single post that, cut and dry, violated their TOS, with Cohost doing nothing.