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Inktober Day 31: Happy Halloween

While I agree with the core topic, I'm really CURIOUS what kind of training methods were used on them! My gut feeling says not good ones(especially after looking at OP's page).

Being judgmental and assuming the worst isn’t very nice. Something tells me it’s not curiosity that compelled you to leave such a comment either.

The beagles had a health issue and were not receiving any training. I do not know what training the presas had or had not received as my knowledge of them comes from a news report- not sure how my personal methods that I use with my personal dog has anything to do with how other people handle their dogs. The puppy mill rescue owned by a family friend was receiving a lot of guidance from a veterinary behaviorist, which prioritize +R as their means to help dogs with such intense fear issues.

Skoll, my human/dog/fear aggressive rescue doberman, was handled without the use of any metal aversives- no chain, prong, or shock collars touched that dog once he was transferred into my hands. He had a front clip harness and a head halti and a flat collar, and we prioritized using a clicker instead of vocal markers, if you must know. Skoll had known, documented abuse, the proof of which still sits in a little manilla folder on my bookshelf. Some of his suffering indeed came from a prong and a shock collar, and thus I wasn’t going to use either on him as he had a known violent reaction to them.

Still no details how that dog was trained by you. And using aversives on a fearful and aggressive animal is insane. All it does it is covering up the symptoms, but the issues are still there. Sooner or later it will return, often stronger than ever. A good trainer will do the best to find the root of the problem and work slowly. An animal mistreated like that case will most likely never be healed(no matter how you train it), but things can be improved.

Sorry, just saw the answer on Doberbutts page(why isn’t Tumblr showing it to me?). Thanks for the reply! However, just wish you would have added that detail in your post. Always curious when I read about cases like that. Sorry that it didn’t work out, you did your best!

I’m not sure who you think you’re replying to, but it’s my OP and my activity feed that it’s showing up on. Considering you were very confrontational in your initial reply, which you didn’t check for a response before writing another confrontational and judgmental reply on a post about my dead dog, I must admit I’m a little frustrated with you at the moment. I did not write Skoll’s post for you, nor did I write it recently. It’s been written for the past couple years and only recently was brought back up by a follower interested in previous poss about him.

Thank you for the apology. However, this is twice that you’ve thrown judgment at me in a post referencing a dog that I loved and is dead and implied that I am a shit trainer that uses bad methods and that it’s my fault he’s dead, before you decided that because I used methods you personally feel are okay, that it’s fine.

Unfortunately, they won't accept paypal. Would have to wait till I'm back home.

oh..RIGHT. i used my visa with them..hmm i know a lot of people need to use paypal.

@epicaistar Ask and you shall receive ;) I think Rottweiler is unaware how strong he really is !!