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engagethrusters said: JAMES PATTERSON!!! YES
YOU LIEK JAME PATTERSON??
Original two posts:
gendermoony: Autistic person : has autistic headcanons Allistics : no, no, U donât understand, my cousin is a person with autism and he is not like that!!!! People With Autism canât be likeable characters uwu
penelopesnatcher: Me: headcanons villains with disorders and disabilities Neurotypicals: [silence]
Third post, with my attempts at decoding
Things That I Donât Appreciate About This Post as a Neurodivergent, and as a Person In General:
-establishes who you are a little, okay fair enough seems like a legit discussion beginning
The tone. It basically sounds exactly what bonkers SJWs sound like; only taking the gauntlet and running the other direction with it. SEE WHAT ALLISTIC PEOPLE DO??? SEE WHAT NEUROTIPICAL PEOPLE DONâT DO?? THEY DONâT ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT [X THING]!!
-tone policing (see: http://tooyoungforthelivingdead.tumblr.com/tone-policing,http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Tone_argument, http://www.derailingfordummies.com/derail-using-anger/ )
-âbonkersâ, like âinsaneâ and âcrazyâ is often used to dismiss mentally ill and neurodivergent peopleâ and also NT people by comparing it to them. It devalues thoughts, ideas, actions, and entire people based on their brains.
-op was commenting on an observation made about allistic people telling autistic people they canât headcanon representation of themselves
-reply was a little off topic and Iâm not sure I quite get it
-they are literally observations tho like what even are you talking about âsounds like sjwsâ the all caps were your words, not grims
-âother direction with gauntletâ opposite how?? what is the original direction? there is no context here
When you can flip âautistic people canât have autistic headcanons, thatâs just something you canât do, but mental illnesses are a badge, so we donât have anything to sayâ with âlook what these allistic people do all the time, ugh, and neurotypical people are complete hypocritesâ, thatâs a narrative you really donât want to go with. Is it true that thatâs what these people sound like? That they sound (and often are) completely vapid? Yeah, it does, but itâs the exact same tone they use. Is it a good reason to get upset? Damn straight it is.
-is this the context for above bc I still donât get it
-those two quotations are??? the first is what NT people were observed to do, and the second is again your interpretation of said observationâ and it also sounds like you have more of a problem to the reply than OP?
But what youâre actually sounding like when you adopt that same tone is, âAllistic and neurotypical people are bad and should feel bad for everything people like that do and sayâ. Hm. I wonder what that reminds me of.
-continuing here going back to tone policing, as if people arenât allowed to get annoyed or hurt by the things people do
"[x thing] that [y group] does just really upsets me for [z reasons]" separates people within the same broad group from a minority that exists largely only on tumblr (who adopt the YOU CANâT HAVE THIS THING IN FANDOM), rather than telling everyone theyâre awful.
-this whole sentence is too vague; I canât tell what/who youâre talking about. iâm getting â âthis is hurtfulâ divides a community rather than dismissing it entirelyâ which is????
Answering toxic hostility with toxic hostility is not how you win these kinds of arguments, and doesnât make your well-meaning intent in calling people like this out sound any better. Making every allistic/neurotypical person feel like theyâre the real problem does not actually solve the problemâ making sure to counter balance the people who do honestly say and believe that they can control what autistic/neurodivergent can and canât have does.
-tone policing
-if the NT/allistic people arenât ableist fuckbags, they will find, as I have, this a lighthearted mockery of the ones who are ableist fuckbags, and know what not to do.
So I encourage anyone who sees this on their dashboard to think more carefully about the tone they want to set on their personal views, and how approachable and rational toxic agreement really makes you look before reblogging it.
-because itâs everyoneâs job to be âapproachable and rationalâ
Yes, itâs your own space. Reblog whatever you so choose. But do you really want to sound just like the SJWs you decry to people who might not know better that follow you? Do you really want that as part of your reputation to people that do? Hopefully not. What you put forward for people to see is very important to how people will approach you. As well as the type of followers you attract that may or may not use your agreement as justification for bad behavior.
-guilting and tone policing, boy golly!
-also most people perceived as SJWs on their own blogs are usually commenting/complaining about the shit they actually go through???? not intentional political statements????????
So, please. Do keep this in mind when you see things like this.
-yeah no wtf even was this trainwreck of a post
and then you proceeded to invalidate Moonyâs pain with grims psychosis? AND turn it around so that grims calling you out is âname callingâ and âinsultingâ? AND refuse to comply with increasingly emotional pleas to stop responding, all the while insisting that grim is the one with the power to disengage??????