In this insightful interview, we focused on grieving during the holiday season. Claire offered invaluable advice, such as embracing sadness, accepting and validating your emotions, and practicing self-kindness. She also emphasized the importance of self-care, including staying hydrated, getting proper rest, and maintaining good nutrition during difficult times.We talked about my personal experiences with grief and how, thanks to Claire's guidance, Betsy feels more prepared to cope with this holiday season.  Claire also shared her experiences with holiday grief and introduced the "Empty Chair" concept—acknowledging the absence of a loved one, starting new traditions, and building a supportive environment. She encouraged having a "quiet room" where people can take breaks from festivities, free from self-judgment. We also explored the "Lumpy Legacy" concept – the idea that life is full of challenges and changes and that this is not the end of your story. This interview is a must-watch for anyone navigating grief. Claire will return in March 2025 to discuss grief in the workplace. Betsy highly recommends Putting Out the Fire, a book that significantly helped her healing journey, even though her loss of her husband Matt was four years ago.