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something about Fiyero immediately locking in with a plan to save Elphaba the millisecond he sees a little girl strutting down the road in Nessa's shoes, despite the fact that he was fully convinced that Elphaba would abandon him immediately due to his crippling self doubt and body dysphoria, is so. so sad to me.
like. he is 10000% sure she will leave him the second she sees him and he still spends days- weeks, even, planning everything and lying to people and doing everything to just save her a final time.
the way Fiyero has operated his ENTIRE life as an act because he fears nobody will like the real him, so he pretends to be nothing more than a smoking hot, flexible, rule-breaking play-boy so people will "like him." and he finally finds someone who likes him for HIM and not his looks or status or ability to move all sexy-like. and he tries so hard to be friends with her. but before anything can really develop, that girl disappears. and so he does the only thing he KNOWS will help her and subjects himself to who knows what kinda stuff under the Wizard, he leads along a girl he doesn't actually love and is eventually forced into a marriage because of it, but it works out because, hey, at least he made sure nobody killed the girl he REALLY loves. and everything is going well. until he saves her AGAIN and then he's presumably tortured and strung up, and she casts a spell. yay he's alive.
except now he doesn't have his looks. because he doesn't have his looks, he doesn't have his status, popularity, and probably can't go back to his family. he can't even move the way he used to, so he's reduced to lumbering around the road and relying on a teenage girl. he cant even physically PROTECT the girl he loves. and he's worried sick as people start hunting her, but what can he possibly do? well, he uses what little smarts he has and saves the girl through faking her death, but he's so deeply convinced she won't love him again. because, unlike the girl who has always been hated for her appearance, he's only been loved for it and so now he has crippling self doubt because WHAT IF SHE SECRETLY ONLY WANTED HIS APPEARANCE TOO? and so he spends the entire journey before saving her for the third time thinking that she'll leave him once she sees the 'monster' he's been reduced to, because everyone else would.
So Cynthia had this on her Instagram and 1. ADORABLE
But 2... actually Fiyer-crow looks a lot better in this lighting? like in the trap door scene he honestly looked yellow, but in normal lighting he's actually quite cute. like the yellow is definitely still there, but its not as bad, and his eyebrows are much more defnied. i do wish they kept his cunty black eyebrows, lips, and little mouth lines, though :/
but overall, the more i look at him up close, the more i like him :)
So I've seen a spike of Gelphies (or Fiyero antis- I'm not exactly doing a background check on their blog to see where their shipping stands) claiming that Fiyero telling Elphaba, "it's not lying, its looking at things a different way" was backhanded, and I saw someone paraphrase it, saying "you're pretty for a green girl," someone else said, "you're beautiful but only on opposite day," and then someone on Twitter said, "yeah bae ur lowkey hideous as fuck but i somehow find you attractive so be grateful I'm not like everyone else."
And even on here, which is usually bounds better, people are bringing up Glinda's "why look at you, Miss Elphaba. You're beautiful," as proof that Fiyero doesn't actually love the way she looks or is disingenuous or that Fiyeraba is somehow less because of this. And this all also ties into Gelphies or Fiyeraba-antis (again, I'm not running CIA background checks to figure out which it is) claiming that 'As Long as Your Mine' is a ballad of nothing more than friends with benefits and that they know they'll break up because of the one line, "say there's no future for us as a pair," and I genuinely can't even imagine being that stupid and blinded by hatred of a "straight" ship to think that's true.
Because, one: the line, "say there's no future for us as a pair," is so very fucking obviously them lamenting the fact that all of Oz is hunting their asses, including Glinda. Not that they know about Glinda, specifically, but logic as far as lyrics in musicals go is odd (i.e its not like Glinda sent lyrics and musical notes via telepathy to everyone at Shiz to sing about how disgusitifed Elphaba is, it just happened because lyrics be wacky). Even as I look at Wicked: The Grimmerie, Steven Schwartz, when discussing his thought process behind each song, says, "It's a love song, and its supposed to sound sexy and passionate. But there's a darkness underneath it, because Elphaba and Fiyero know, even as they sing, that this can't last. They understand that they're fugitives and this is just a moment in time." Which is also what makes it more impactfull when Elphaba asks if they'll ever see each other again, and Fiyero reaffirms that they will. Like, they are trooping forward with their romance against all odds, against all Oz, against Glinda.
And so, of course, right before all this, the infamous "it's looking at things another way" line. Which, first and foremost, if Fiyero was being disingenuous when he said that, then it must mean that Elphaba was lying to him as well, and even Fiyero-haters should be at least trying to keep Elphaba in character. But anyway, it's so obvious that Fiyero says what he says because he knows Elphaba wouldn't believe him otherwise! She literally tells him, "you don't have to lie." She is fully convinced she's not beautiful, because of the way everyone (including Glinda in the beginning) has treated her and her greenness. Especially because Elphaba has been collecting her own propaganda posters. She has surrounded herself with the image that Morrible and perhaps Glinda put forward, convincing herself that she is unlovable. Probably because it's easier to think you could never possibly be with somebody than think you did have your chance, and you missed it. Which is emphasized in I'm Not That Girl, where Schwartz says, "The situation was so clear: Elphaba is an extremely self aware person who had a moment when she allowed herself to fall for this handsome guy. And then she has to stop herself from feeling anything, because it was too painful. In a very calm way, she says, "I can't feel that."" Plus, the lyrics itself- "Don't dream too far, don't lose sight of who you are... every so often we long to steal to the land of what-might-have-been, but that doesn't soften the ache we feel when reality sets back in... don't wish, don't start, wishing only wounds the heart." There's literally nothing more obvious.
And onto the note of Glinda and Popular. First and foremost, as I look at the Grimmerie, Schwartz uses the following phrases to describe Popular:
1. Glinda's shallowness and teen sensibility
2. No depth whatsoever
3. Empty calories
4. Faintly vicious
5. As shallow as possible
And, don't get me wrong, I do believe that Glinda finally saw the beauty in Elphaba. Sure, it only took presumed months of bullying (given that WITF is a montage over several classes, Elphaba's relation with Morrible growing, Dr. Dillamond talking about improvement in essays, and Fiyero being kicked out of at least the school his family owned, but probably a few more given he said "enough of them" as in multiple, and there's no reasonable way he would be kicked out of the school his family reigned over, even if it was like the Royal Winkie Middle School, kicked out of others, enrolled back into the Royal Winkie Academy, and then was kicked out again, so he hit up at least three total, I think, before Shiz), total public humiliation at a party, and Elphaba doing something nice for her at her own risk, and going through several different accessory options to realize it, but she realized it. But even after the fact, when Elphaba runs away, Glinda reverts back to being self-focused. She sings about how even though Elphaba protests, she'll make her grin and bare her popularity- but never quite as popular as herself, because heaven forbid someone outdo Glinda- hence the INTG reprise and the line at the train station- something akin to "so this is what normal people feel like? How do they bare it?"
And moreso, the next day- Elphaba has been Galindafied. Now, is this because Elphaba went back for the full makeover, or because she did it by her lonesome, we don't really know. But clearly, even though Glinda believes Elphaba is beautiful, nothing she said made Elphaba believe Elphaba is beautiful, because otherwise she wouldn't have faced the urge to change herself. Which, of course, directly mirrors Elphaba saying, "for the first time I feel wicked," because obviously she uses it in a positive (and freaky) manner, reclaiming the propaganda that Morrible, the Wizard, and perhaps Glinda have spewed forward- finally being proud of herself because only Fiyero, who loves her unequivocally, fully, without hesitation allows her to feel that safe.
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List of things I did like in the movie, because I'm going to be complaining for a while but wanted to make sure people know I didn't hate, like, the entire thing or whatever:
The way Elphaba used the whip against the Guards... oh someone sedate me... good lord
The line of Elphaba saying "not you too" in the Wizard's throne room after 'Wonderful' to Fiyero was instead transferred to right after 'Thank Goodness,' where he "hunted" her and said some bad things. And in this, she said "even you," which I like a lot more because it shows how based on what she knew from him, she fully expected him to hold out more than some other characters who's names rhyme with Balinda. Like, 'not you too' just means he fell for the propaganda and that she's rightfully devastated, but not much else. But 'even you' means that she thinks it's gotten so bad that the ONE person to stand by her fell to it as well. Also, the way she must have gone back to Shiz to grab Fiyero's newspaper, I'm unwell. Cause, like, that paper was specifically about him being spotted at Shiz, and newspapers don't keep selling years after their initial publication. So she snuck back and grabbed it. OR, she had it folded up in her coat the whole time, which is also cute.
Fiyero actively using his position to usher the other Guards away from Elphaba's hiding spot- he 100% saw her given his split-second side eye to her hiding spot before he said to return.
NESSA AND BOQ'S RELATIONSHIP. Although it was very minimal screen time, their development in those... five(?) minutes was phenomenal. Boq begging Nessa not to sign the law banning Animals from travel, but her succumbing to it and throwing Munchkins in as well as to appease the Wizard and remain 'good.'
Nessa (and me tbh) absolutely thought that Boq was going to axe her when he stumbled out
Nessa crying for Boq during the tornado, I'm gonna be sick
They got rid of the "well it was like that" line from Fiyero, which I really enjoy. He was always weird for that, but in the movie, he just intensely stared at her. Also, Glinda told them to leave versus Fiyero dragging Elphaba out, which as Glinda's #1 hater (me no no like bullies and ppl who are a-okay w/ fascism until it bites them) was very nice. Like both Fiyero and Elphaba honestly looked like they expected Glinda to come with them, but nope.
I wish they had more domestic time in ALAYM, because I honestly thought we would get it due to Fiyero's mirror and toothbrush in the website, BUT!! It was phenomenal nonetheless. The way Elphaba teases Fiyero and he chases her around... how he deliberately kneels before her... how he told her she's beautiful after he saw the propaganda, how it must be effecting her, and went, "Well, this just won't do!" and how she didn't believe him and he made her believe him... hnnnnng
THE TORNADO. Actually cool as fuck.
I enjoyed Glinda using the Animals to do her hair and such, plus the butterflies. Although the film didn't really touch up beyond that? Like I would have assumed Elphaba would be angry, since Glinda is just aesthetically harming the Animals, but whatever
NGD was beyond phenominal
ALSO ALSO ALSO. The way that when Elphaba sings NGD, she has flashes of Fiyero being tortured- but in black and white. Because, obviously, we all know the Wicked Witch's origin in TWOO, which is famously going from black and white (technically sepia but you get the idea) to color. And so, when Elphaba is through with being good, and embracing the title of the Wicked Witch, it shows her breaking point (Fiyero) in black and white to symbolize that switch.
FIYERO SHAKING THE ENTIRE TIME HE HELD GLINDA AT GUN POINT. "If its so good for him why is he trembling."
A little crumb of Fiyero and Chistery alliance, though there really should have been more.
I'm laughing at everyone who insisted that Elphaba continuously went to go see Glinda and whatnot, because now we know that the first time in five years Elphaba saw Glinda was strictly after she thought Fiyero betrayed her and then she saw the posters. Because Glinda kept something akin to the "thank Oz you're alive" line, and it really read as them reuniting for the first time.
The Wizard talking about how nobody will believe Elphaba, or even himself because they'll see what they want to see
I feel bad for Elphaba, she finally allied with the Wizard and Glinda immediately starts talking about getting married n' shit.
Get you a man who walks through a forest during a tornado
The Guards singing "lalala" from Popular was hilarious
Chistery speaks!
The entirety of the WITF and Popular reprise in EDMW, very much so showed how as Glinda rises in power and lies to herself about the terrible things shes done, and how shallow shes being
Fiyero's sad puppy dog eyes
Both Fiyero and Elphaba 100% knew he was going to die when he told Elphaba to leave
someone in the fiyeraba discord said they think that fiyer-crow has his stupid little hat because the other guards put it on him to mock his love and devotion to Elphaba, and oh god it makes sense because i don't think he ever had a hat before he transformed so like where the fuck did it come from and dear god i'm going to be SIIIIIIIICK
"i'm going to use As Long As Your Mine as a bathroom break, I don't want to see any of that!"
you mean you don't want to see Elphaba be happy? you don't want to see her be loved unconditionally, without seeing green first and foremost? without seeing her as a tool or obstacle? you don't want to see her feeling like she can be herself to the maximum, without a soul judging her? just because, what... its an evil man offering her this comfort? because its not glinda?
