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The Otherworld Voyage
Full Title: The Otherworld Voyage In Early Irish Literature – An Anthology of Criticism
Editor: Jonathan M. Wooding
Publisher: Four Courts Press
Published: 2000
ISBN: 978-1-84682-556-9
Pages: 290, Includes an Appendix, Bibliography, and Index
Synopsis:
Prominent in the literature of early Ireland are the tales known as echtrai (adventures) and immrama (voyages), stories…
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TMSP: What's PAX East?
Raiona: PAX is a series of gaming expo show things
TMSP: Aaah, ok. I was like...is it Easter related? Like, Peaceful Easter or something I've just never heard of? lol
Raiona: wha hahahaha
TMSP: Yeah, I'm clueless about cons and stuff, haha.
I'm someone who works with the Celtic pantheon, but recently have found myself being called pretty intensely to Bast. I've heard that mixing pantheons can be either incredibly disrespectful or just fine, but I'd rather see what you guys have to say about it. I don't want to disrespect anyone! :<
Late response is late. Please keep in mind that two of the three of us are Abrahamic; you said "you guys" so I let the ask sit for a while to see if they had opinions, but anyway, it's been a bit so I'll just fill this in.
I (Mod L) am a Gaulish polytheist. (I have no idea how common knowledge that is since we do most of our talking on unrelated things, so whoops let's reiterate.) So I'm the closest thing you'll get to a "Celtic authority" on this blog idek.
Here are the guidelines that I would use, and would probably be supported by other polytheists in the comm:
Respect each god as an individual. Don't try to lump them in with each other.
Research each god and how they relate to other gods. For example, I believe (and Mod D can call me on this if I don't remember) Judaism is henotheistic; you can accept the existence of other gods, but YHWH must be held above all of them. Similarly, some lwa must be housed above/below/etc other lwa.
Be sure that these two gods can, in fact, be compatible. If, for example, you're following X, and X requires that you be a pacifist, then you can't follow Y, a god of war. That kind of thing.
Give each god their due diligence. Don't say, "well, since this offering worked for X, I'll give it to Y too." Individualize. Maybe give them separate altars/devotional spaces.
That's more general. As for your specific case:
Not entirely sure what you mean by the Celtic pantheon (there is no Celtic pantheon; "Celtic" encompasses a variety of cultures and religious paths, from Gaelic to Welsh to Gaulish), but most people typically mean Gaelic, so I'll operate off of that assumption for the most part. Like I said, I'm not Gaelic, but I'd recommend chatting up echtrai and/or looking up some of the people on her listings page. They might have more to offer on that front.
As for Bast, the only Kemetic polytheist I know of who for sure is a gr9 resource is satsekhem, so you should totally do that too.
Good luck!
Mod L
Celtic Intensifies Reflecting on Night Conversations in Chat:
FelicityMay: haha, dead of night I feel like is conducive to either SUPER SMARTS or super NOT SMARTS, there's no in between.
Raiona: YEAH
De: "Have you ever really looked at your fingers?" except with folklore
Raiona: perfect
i love echtrai and i think it's incredibly sweet and funny that echtrai is organizing and connecting the celtic polytheists with their list and genuinely helpful community updates - i'm not on it because i am a secretive little bastard, but i see what you did there. uh huh. you and Lugh, with your assemblies. xxx love you
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Out of curiosity, do you know anyone else who follows or works with Fliodhais?
I actually do! My friend themodernsouthernpagan started a Tumblr shrine to her here: foltchain. And our mutual friend echtrai / echtrainighriofa also honors her.
There isn't a lot of information that is accurate about her online, I'll let you know that. And that's mostly due to her rarity of her in primary lore. But I know that Echtrai and Southern Pagan have been doing some research into the lore to find primary accounts about her, so they will be the best bet to ask and share UPGs with :)
Thanks for your info! Its really helpful. I know a lot about magic and earth spirituality, but I'm pretty new to communicating with deities, so thanks for your constructive information and not writing me off as some silly noob. There's so much negativity toward new and inexperienced pagans, its good to have people like you for positive support :)
Yeah, I know what you mean about the attitude with some towards new pagans. Unfortunately, I’ve seen that some people can be quite…erm…unwelcoming to information? To put it nicely? So other people are jaded by those types of pagans and don’t discern between people misguided and those who are willfully ignorant. Just have the same baseline reaction ><
I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt (for example, I didn’t know you never communicated much with deities! I didn’t pick up on that from your post.) There are others who do that too (Echtrai, Heelancoo, TheTwistedRope, for example) that I first learned that from.
Anyway, I’m glad I could be helpful :) Let me know if you have any other questions?
I have the weirdest question in the world: Do you know of any sources that talk about tribes of people in the Celtic vs Roman Imperialism era that just kind of...Did their own thing? Didn't agree with their leader, didn't agree with Roman leader, but just kind of said "That's nice and all but we're going to live where-ever we damn well please and wait for you guys to get over yourselves"? You seem the most likely source to help me out with where to look.
I haven't the faintest idea. My grasp of Celtic history is a weak one, I'm barely learning the myths and hero-tales still.
Followers?
