#dickroytim

i am Always happy to talk about tim as an object in various relationships 👀👀

idk that i need to expand much on this dynamic in jayroytim as it is featured not only in Red on Red on Red but also in this post about roror

as far as tim being objectified via jaydicktim scenarios, we of course have this ask along with the related asks linked on it, but i will add that jaydicktim objectification feels like an au on or twist of the props series (which is obviously very different in that in props tim has been groomed and dick is very much not a willing participant and its actually just jason and bruce being Wild af in the best ways possible for a dark au like that--) BUT i feel like its similar vibes in the sense of it now being jason and dick using tim as a prop in a game more between them that has less to do with tim himself most of the time, and tim both liking not just how it feels but also each of them individually, and being the Fixer that he is, liking that he can be the piece to end up bringing them together

dicktim but its voyeurism could go a lot of different ways 🤔 i think i might just make a separate post for this portion? (not tonight tho cause im supposed to be getting ready for bed rn and im clearly not, sssshhhhhh, its our secret)

dicktimroy!!!!!!!1 !!! 1!!!!!1 !!!!!!! this ship is So Slept On!! its crazy to me. i wanna see them so fucked up tho. i want roy and tim sneaking around behind everyones backs because of the age difference and because dick would be Pissed and neither of them want that but it also makes sneaking around behind his back So Hot to them. i want dick to find out and to blow up about it. maybe he makes roy watch while he has his way with tim- all this talk about how tim was his first, his little brother, his robin- bonus points for dick and roy having been ex's or maybe just having fooled around and had messy feelings for each other in the past that were never outright Stated, but cmon. they knew. They Knew. and so now with tims involvement he becomes the toy they use to work past all of that- hes the middleman who now has to be involved for them to pretend theyre not still fucked up about their past

jaytim with an extra jason could also go several ways 👀👀 but i like the idea of them just aiming to overwhelm tim, talking to each other in some sort of fucked up competition to see who can mess him up more while tim is sort of short circuiting bc they are doing a Very good job

dick bringing tim to meet the teen titans and tim has such an obvious crush on roy, just in a constant state of being beet-red when roy talks to (or even looks at) him, asking him all sorts of questions about archery and convincing roy to "teach" him (despite definitely already knowing how to shoot).

dick is not impressed, obviously. wants roy to stay the hell away from tim, even though roy has no intention of pursuing tim in any way, but dick can't find it in himself to listen to reason because whenever he thinks of tim and roy all he can do is remember the image of roy leaning over tim's shoulder and positioning his hands on the bow while tim stood there awkward and flustered to hell.

fast forward years and years to bftc/brucequest and tim has hardly seen roy since he was younger, just every once in a while because of hero work, and he's not the type to go tripping over his feet because a cute boy looked at him anymore.

but he can still remember how mad dick got back then, and maybe he's mostly just sad now, when he thinks of dick, thinks of how they fought each other, how dick wouldn't trust him. but there's anger there too, deep and bitter betrayal, and it rears it's ugly head every once in a while, overpowering the loneliness and the sadness and everything else.

and he runs into roy by complete happenstance, and roy is still hot, and he's grown into his looks even more now than when dick used to bring him to visit titans tower, so really, he can tell himself it isn't about dick, he'd want to sleep with roy either way.

and it all starts with roy and tim, while dick is seething with rage and jealousy in the background and stubbornly arguing that it's all just bc tim is his younger brother, and not something that roy's dirty brain came up with!

oooh, YES. i LOVE this. your mind. especially if it starts with RoyTim instead of the expected DickRoy or DickTim? that's so good. it's the definition of Roy being a little shit, accidentally seducing Dick's younger brother and sleeping with him. i think it's fun if this specifically highlights Roy's fuckboy era, where he slept with just about anyone and wasn't shy about hiding it, as opposed to him being a bit more mature and careful about sleeping around with Tim, knowing Dick would disapprove. (thinking specifically about the time Roy slept with Helena, Dick's complicated ex situationship and when Dick asked Roy was very casually like "oh dw man i wouldn't get between you two like that, i only slept with her!" and just being so casual about it)

Roy *could* hide it from Dick, and tbh he knows he should. but it's a family full of detectives anyway, so what's the point? Roy can only make up so many excuses for being in Gotham and if Tim is old enough to consent, it's none of Dick's business. even if Roy is sort of rubbing it in his face to *make it* his business. i am delighted by the idea that Roy is almost getting off to how angry Dick is about it. Dick doesn't have a lot of good arguments about why Roy *can't* do this. the "he's basically my baby brother" argument doesn't go very far, and it doesn't seem to be stopping Tim. Tim can pretend to be annoyed and scolding Roy about all the bragging, but Roy sees the hidden smiles.

i think it's also fun if Tim is purposefully doing this to rile Dick up. maybe he and Dick have danced around the idea of feelings, but Dick has always shut down their long stares and lingering touches by saying how Tim is like a brother to him. and so, Tim wants to call his bluff. if he's just Dick's brother, than Dick has no right to get jealous over who Tim does or doesn't like. and Roy is two birds with one stone. not only is he someone for Tim to sleep with to make Dick jealous, Dick's *best friend*, even. but he's someone Tim has genuinely had a thing for, and it's easy for him to play it off as though Roy was the one who came onto him and not Tim making himself obvious bait. he's honestly shocked it's worked as well as it has, with Dick seething every time Tim and Roy are in the same room, even if they're behaving. he lets Roy make the jokes about their sex life and show displays of affection because Tim knows it's building and building for Dick, and eventually, he's going to break.

only Dick went a little too hard on the "brothers" excuse and now it's an excuse sort of believes, which adds a delightful bit of incestual vibes to it. bc Dick tells Tim that he *made his point* a little too late, and now Tim actually likes Roy. so Dick is going to have to explain this to Roy too. and somehow, the awkward conversation leads to Roy suddenly being very interested in an incest kink and seeing exactly how "brotherly" they are-

them all sleeping together is Roy's suggestion, and Tim is *definitely* into the idea, and even Dick is more on board then he expects to be. maybe he and Roy fooled around once when they were kids and it was never thought about beyond a sexuality exploration sort of thing for both of them. but now, Dick has to admit it wouldn't be the *worst* sight to see Roy fuck Tim. after all, Roy has to show Dick how Tim likes it. and Roy is *really* leaning into the brothers thing the whole time.

after the first few times they sleep together, i think Dick would just accept Tim and Roy are a package deal. and of all his friends, Roy really can't be the worst one to date. all the fuckboy stuff stripped away, Roy is a great boyfriend and makes sure Dick and Tim are more than happy. he remembers anniversaries and little "just because" gifts. and he's a great dad, which somehow adds to it all.

and yeah of course dick would be pissy bc that’s HIS little brother Roy is not going to fuck him right ! Tim is dick’s little brother, he gets to decide who fucks him!

referencing this ask

YES!! maybe once i have some free time i write smthn for dicktimroy 🤔 i dont wanna commit to anything rn cause i have so many other wips and my writing has taken a backseat to other stuff, but hhnnnggg, there is like. nothing for them. like. what do you MEAN there are only 17 works tagged dick/tim/roy on ao3?? youre joking?? say sike rn 😭

i just like the idea that dick is so Weirdly protective of tim- like, not only is that his chosen little brother, hes one of his successors, and the age gap lends rly well to being overprotective. which leads to more tension between dick and roy, because they are such good friends and even tho they've had their ups and downs, they Trust each other and roy cant help but take that seeming lack of trust personally in this situation, but he simultaneously feels like its deserved bc he WAS sneaking around behind dicks back about it- and i just aaaaahhhhh- its so fun and messy!!