“Family”

Noah: “Family”? Which one?

Do you mean my actual family or the sons of bitches that think they’re my family?

…Which one is which?

The Crux is my real family.

You can imagine who’s the latter.

…

Let’s go down the list.

(Top to bottom, left to right)

Well we can’t start out without mentioning the ringmaster. My mother. If you could even call her that. Alice Ripper. Who knows why she does what she does.

Next are the twins, David and Douglas, if you’d really like to piss them off, you can call them by their original last names, which is Graves as opposed to Ripper.

David and Douglas are responsible for kidnapping people to get information out of them, they have a general disdain for most women, they’re bigoted as all hell, and generally they’re my mom’s attack dogs.

It’s a shame, considering they were basically brainwashed into becoming some of the worst people you’ll ever meet. Although they’re too far gone for my liking.

Next, “Sergeant” Boris Abir. Huge egotistical ass. He used to be a sergeant in Morgana’s military. He was dishonorably discharged after he attempted to murder one of his superiors. He was broken out of prison by my mom, and is so bitter about his discharge that he still goes by the stupid title of sergeant.

He’s an attack dog for my mother, and pretty sadistic. He’s a big guy, and wants to be like Owen so badly apparently. Even copied Owen’s hammer. Thinks of himself as “the better Owen”.

As I said. Egotistical ass.

Let’s see, oh, right. Lorraine Russel. She’s responsible for checking in on my mother’s “business partner’s” to ensure they’re “doing their jobs” aka doing what she wants or else they get murdered or tortured.

She’s given permission to do anything she sees fit to keep people in line. Tch, another sadistic one. Her and Abir are two peas in a pod, almost “father-daughter” type shit. Gross.

[ sighs ] speaking of sadistic, sensing a theme? Clarence Chemivolt. He used to study at the Morgana University of Magics and Mana. Was promptly thrown out due to his unethical treatment of experiments.

My mom told him he’d be allowed to do whatever he wanted and would be supplied with everything he needed if he joined her.

I have far too many mental scars from that son of a bitch. He never saw me as a person, not that the others did either. Well. Except one.

Evelyn Tisdale.

She didn’t like me per se.

But she didn’t necessarily like my mom either.

I remember her and my mom bitching at each other all the time. She didn’t like how I was treated, said I’d do better as a weapon if my mom actually treated me the way she treated the twins.

She always repaired me after my mom would injure me. Always told me that I stayed in my lane, she’d stay in hers.

She was responsible for tracking people down. She knows everything about everyone. I’m sure she knows about who I hang around with these days.

But she never was the type to always give up where people were, which pissed my mom off to no end.

She never gave up to my mom where I went. That I know for sure. Mainly because my mom was bitching about having to find me on her own when she did eventually find me.

She’s… okay.

I don’t have any plans to get rid of her. Just to put her in prison.

She’s still responsible for assisting in the murders of several dozen people.

How can the Justice League save Steve Trevor when they can't even work together?

He had an elder brother Samuel b.1741, who married Mary Semple and had two sons Captain William Graves R.M., who died 21st September 1853 and Alexander b. 1784 who served as a midshipman aboard HMS Pickle which was commanded by Captain John Richards Lapentiere who had married 2ndly Mary Graves a daughter of Lt. John Graves of Gravesend by his wife Elizabeth nee Dowling a daughter of the Rev. William Dowling.

Jane Hervey, could have been the governess to David, George and Mary (see above) and they may not have been siblings, but cousins. William Graves (1724-1801), the elder son of Admiral Thomas Graves (1680-1755) was a lawyer and a help to all the family in trouble.

David Graves is referred as a nephew by Admiral Graves, (1713-1787) together with brothers Samuel, Thomas (later Admiral Sir Thomas 1747-1814)), John and Richard, in his will.

There will be a book soon to be published about Rear Admiral Richard's wife and family.

Hi @cidersquire,

I thank you for contacting me! I do happen to have more than a passing interest in the Graves family, which 'happened' to me by coincidence a few years ago, focussing particularly on Samuel Graves and his wife, Margaret Spinckes.

Naturally, I also have an interest in the family around them, which is why I am grateful for your comments. I fear however that there may be some confusion here as to the identities of David Graves and his siblings.

I have reviewed the wills of both Thomas (1680-1755) and Samuel (1713-1787) Graves in order to find any possible information on David, George and Mary Graves. Neither are mentioned in Samuel's will, but Thomas' yields the information that [...] aforesaid being the children born of the body of the said Jane Hervey.

Will of Rear-Admiral Thomas Graves. National Archives reference number PROB 11/821/71

Jane being explicitly named as the mother of all three, not as you suggested perhaps serving in the capacity of governess or other third-party caregiver, implies that David, George and Mary were at least half- if not, wich would seem more likely to me, full siblings.

David, George and Mary are without a question the product of an intimate relationship between Jane Hervey and a male Graves of the Thanckes household, meaning either Thomas, or his sons William and Thomas may have been the father. Given that the children are mentioned in Thomas Graves' will, but without any specification as to their relation to him (compare e.g. to "my said son William Graves" or "my eldest son Thomas Graves") heavily implies that they were his own, illegitimate children.

The Samuel Graves born in 1741 is a somewhat greater mystery to me, as the only Samuel in that generation I am aware of is Rear-Adm. Samuel Graves (1741-1802) who Catherine Featherstonehaugh and lost an arm during his service in the American Revolutionary War. This Samuel was the son of Rev. John Graves, and the nephew of Admiral Samuel Graves (1713-1787). I wonder where 'your' Samuel Graves, born in the same year, figures into the family tree.

Returning to David, I really could not find any bequest to him in Samuel Graves' (1713-1787) will (National Archives reference number PROB 11/1151/194). He bequeathes some money to his cousins William, Thomas and Anne Graves, Thomas Graves' (legitimate) children from his marriage to Elizabeth Budgell. Other family members who are mentioned in his will are his wife Margaret, nephews Samuel, John, Thomas and Richard, the sons of his brother Rev. John Graves, his godsons and grand-niece.

David later had several illegitimate children of his own; his will (National Archives reference number PROB 11/1664/357) is the only source I have on his siblings and children.

The way I see it, and to illustrate my research, this is what the family tree would look like. Please note that it is of course simplified, leaving out a great many people as it is geared towards showing the relationships discussed above.