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@cptsdwillgraham (Canāt tag you, so I worry youāll not actually see this?? Ah well)
I am pretty much 24/7 worrying Iām supporting some FSMF shit here hahaha š I definitely donāt think repressed memories are rare, or even that itās rare to come out in some form like exotrauma.
Itās the... complete lack of caution, I guess, that gets me. That I doĀ see people spread around posts likeĀ ārepetitive or obsessive thoughts are always a sign of abuse, or even some specific type of abuseā and itās like hoooold on buddy. Even if that sort of stuff didnāt lead toĀ āclassicalā false memories or whatever, it does make people worry,Ā āWait does that mean I was abused?ā and thatās. unpleasant if thatās not already part of your thinking and youād have no other reason to think it. So it feels like a similar mentality here.
And I donāt know how literal people are thinking when they sayĀ āreflect.ā My abuse reflecting this body having been abused? Cool, whatever, Fear of fire? Fine, thatās hypothetically sensible. But once you seeĀ āthereās no way to have something-like-flashbacks, especially somatic ones, unless itās connected to real trauma; your phobias and triggers must have some clear direct connection to what happenedā (stuff we haveĀ seen) itās like, aaalright, gonna have a hard time with all these bizarre religious triggers, the specific injuries I remember,Ā my bizarre problems, etc.??? Especially with this added idea that I shouldnāt careĀ about, deal with anything I remember that Iām not assuming happened to the body, thatās just less important fictional stuff that should go away when unrepressed, thaaatās gonna cause problems.
(Plus like, when people hate endogenic systems in the name of Objective Scientific Research, then act like thereās any Objective Scientific Research on just the idea ofĀ āsometimes alters remember fantastical worlds and things they arenāt claiming happened to the bodyā enough to make statements like āwell itās always directlyĀ repressed memories,ā I think that hypocrisy is what Iām also immaturely responding to too hah)
cptsdwillgraham replied to your post: people are probably tired of me continually...
i donāt disagree but i think then thereās work to be done re endogenic systems who maintain that they donāt have a medical condition because they are fundamentally different from people who are deemed by psychiatry to have a medical condition and not because, like⦠psychiatry particularly despises and pathologizes traumatized people
yeah agree, thatās also Not Great behavior weāve seen all around :ā) like, as if thereās Actually Really Objectively Pathological Multiplicity that Deserves to be pathologized, or whatever
(I wonder how much easier those sorts of conversations would be if there werenāt systems more directly engaged with psychiatry saying,Ā āThose endogenics must be experiencing something completely, entirely, radically differentĀ from anything we experienceā? like it can be kinda a clusterfuck all around; weāve definitely spoken with other non-traumagenic systems who feel the need to basically add disclaimers to everything they talk about,Ā āthis isnāt about DID! because DID is something very different!ā because theyāve been attacked forĀ āāconflating experiencesāā. ugh all around.)
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cptsdwillgrahamĀ replied to your post:Ā āToday in Tumblr discourse I wish I never saw: āhow is calling someone...ā:
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this websiteās ableism discourse is so wretchedly bad all over the board. itās like people are trying to counter the really silly ableism discourse by running in the opposite direction being likeĀ ānothing is ableist actuallyā. and then thereās the inter-community combat of one camp being likeĀ āthis is ableistā and the other beingĀ āno it isnātā. its making this website a deeply unpleasant place to be Ā
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Iāll point out that I donāt know how otherkin communities are dealing with this, Iām not otherkin and honestly, I generally donāt connect with how most otherkin talk about their memories, especially traumatic ones, cuz I mean for starters, Iām pretty much literally the same person barring, yāknow, dissociationĀ in the life I remember haha. You ask me, me and all my issues just walked into this body at some point.
Thereās this chorus (external and, lbr, internal) ofĀ āWell, have you considered...? You should Think Critically and Introspect and be Very Sure, and even if you haveĀ thought about this for years, remember that you might be entirely wrong about everything, and itās irresponsible to just talk about exotrauma without disclaiming it as maybe-all-just-repressed, and probably even irresponsible to present the idea of exotrauma at allā that gets frustrating after a while, and even counterproductive whenĀ āWell, Iāve come to the conclusion that nothing makes sense and nothing is realā is a pretty common outcome. But itās in the name of concern and making sure that people receive the proper help, right?
Half the time, I think the only reason Iām stillĀ āworking through thisā instead of just accepting my current living situation as some fun new twist on reality is because of so much research and voices saying that I shouldnātĀ and canātĀ be certain about this! I donāt likeĀ the idea that my understanding of myself is scientifically implausible or even impossible, but Iāve been Heavily Introspecting and directly Working With shit for a while now, and us as a whole system (i.e., not just my subsystem) have been identifying as multiple, and so constantly comparing notes with DID and OSDD-1 systems, for even longer, and itās tiring to have Kept an Open Mind for that long knowing that no amount of time is really gonna beĀ āenoughā to make me think,Ā āOkay, itās been Solved and I can say weāre Really Endogenic now.ā

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