I've seen a few people calling Gladio abusive because of the train scene (I personally think it's bs but to each their own.) what are your thoughts?
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I have always and will always defend Gladio regarding that train scene.
We must consider some important factors:
1. Repressed feelings/Coping Mechanisms (main reason to me)
2. His duty/role in the story.
3. Lack of understanding/Stereotypes.
Honestly, I donāt think the three points can be described as separated because they all have to merge in one, so here is what I see and think about Gladio, his psyche, and the train scene.
Gladio is a man that was raised not only as a soldier, but under the concept of having to be the best soldier of the world, because itās expected from him to be this unmovable wall, this unhumanly, impossibly strong and un-defeatable thing. I donāt know if you people know how soldiers are trained, but theyāre basically trained to be cold-minded, to not lose the head, and to not let emotions overtake, so they can think 100% with the brain and 0% with the heart.Ā
Gladio was not only trained this way, he was raised this way; we see him laugh and be playful, but thatās outside of duty. Within it, itās always the head cool and never panicking (except for that bit in Episode Ignis when heĀ āfreaked outā because Ignis was not answering through the com).
We see it in that small freak out, Iāll talk about it later.
All in all, Gladioās into this philosophy ofĀ āduty now, feelings laterā. We can take as long as we want in-game to do stuff, but I think that canon story is all one event after the other, no breaks in between (only the necessary stops, etc.). Knowing this, I have the idea that Gladio never gave himself a chance to mourn.
We see Noctis mourn and feel bad onscreen shortly after Insomniaās Fall and Regisā death, but not Gladio, or any of the guys; however, Prompto does have his breakdown in his episode, as does Ignis (of sorts), but not Gladio; his episode is not self discovery and emotions, he was looking for a way to become strong for Noctis; for his duty.Ā Always his duty, always his duty, Gladioās centered and focused 100% in his duty through the game because he has to.
He says it himself during Titanās trail;Ā āwhen you canāt focus, I do it for youā. It doesnāt mean heās being selfish and a cocky idiot; heās saying that itās his duty to focus when Noctis canāt, not something he masters, but something heās forced to attend to.
So all the time itāsĀ āFocus, focus, focusā, not a moment for emotions.
Letās see, from Gladioās perspective, all the shocking events that anyone would mourn but he didnāt:
Insomniaās Fall. His fatherās death. His kingās death. The loss of his homeland. The stress of not knowing Irisā state (for a few days). Jaredās loss, which has to be particularly and majorly heavy for Gladio, as Jared was the Amicitia butler, and he most probably knew Gladio ever since Gladio was born, letās say a second father or even a grandfather figure. Altissia in chaos. Lunafreyaās death.
And what I think finished affecting him, Ignisā injury.
I donāt mean this asĀ āomg they love each otherā (which they do, just in a brotherly way). This has two sides, 1. the feelings for Ignis and 2. the personal side.
On a side, of course it would affect him to find his friend heavily injured, almost in agony, and then see him lose sight. It mustnāt be easy for anyone, to watch a dear one go through such tragedy. Thereās a chart that shows the kind of relationships between the four bros individually, and Gladioās with Ignisā was something the sorts ofĀ āThe person that understands the situation as I doā; they understand each other, and the dynamic and interaction feels like theyāre best friends the way Noctis and Prompto are, if just not as bouncy and hyperactive and funny, rather serious and quieter.Ā
Watching and living through a dear friendās, a dear brotherās tragedy, it must be terrific. Because death canāt be helped, but to watch someone lose sight? And someone so dear to him.
And then theĀ āselfishā side; imagine being tasked since youāre born with the only single one duty of protecting, saving and aiding the life of someone else, and watch someone else do it for you. Imagine being tasked with the only one duty of making sacrifices for one person, and watch someone dear to him do it in your place, right after you thought you were strong enough to do it yourself.
I donāt mean Gladio was angered that Ignis made bigger sacrifices, on the opposite; I think it must have destroyed Gladio.
āIt was supposed to be me, not youāĀ not a canon phrase, but one that I think must have gone through Gladioās head a million times. He was supposed to die for Noctis, not Lunafreya. He was supposed to put the ring on, not Ignis. He was supposed to have been injured and face the Chancellor, not Ignis. He was supposed to be the one losing sight, not Ignis, not Ignis, never Ignis.Ā
Because Gladio was raised with that idea, that heās living just to keep Noctis safe and to go through all the hells and heavens and earths to keep him safe. So to acknowledge that he almost let Noctis die, and he didnāt because a dear friend made a huge sacrifice for him, and watch both of them at your feet, while youāre entirely unharmed?
Gladio must have been dealing with huge guilt, an enormous guilt, guilt in measures we cannot comprehend.Ā
So we add all the previous events to the massive guilt and the struggle of watching a dear friend going through his own tragedy.
And it doesnāt take a genius to know sooner or later he had to explode.
I like to compare our emotions orĀ āsoulā to a glass of water, and each problem or tragedy etc. is a drop (or many drops, depending on the situation). Gladioās trained to keep the water inside, calm and cool, where everyone else drops the water at times before itās full. So Gladio naturally, whether consciously or not, started keeping all inside, a drop for each event, and half a drop for each that that he didnāt give proper care to the glass.
Until his glass was full to the top. Full to the very top, unable to take a single drop of water more.
So itās as soon as something else happens, as soon as the tiniest of events happens, that the glass spills the content. Because even if it was a tiny, stupid, unimportant drop of water, it was the last drop of water, the only one necessary to spill the entire glassā content.Ā
And thatās what happens to Gladio. He has his glass full for major events, and itās a minor one that drops it.
Its name? Noctis not putting the ring on.
Letās retake it; Gladio has been repressing an enormous quantity of negative emotions within himself for the sake of his duty, until he became full.Ā
So itās not that the fact that Noctis hadnāt put the ring on what makes Gladio so angry; itās not because of one thing, itās because of a thousand things that were triggered by only one. Gladio talking about the ring is only the tip of the iceberg; the real thing is all under the water and out of everyoneās sights, at least out of the sight of the people that are not comprehensive or understanding enough to go further the things that are said and cannot read the subtext.
Noctis not putting the ring on was not an excuse, but it also wasnāt the only motif or reason for him to explode the way he did; itās everything he had been carrying, hiding behind the mask of only one fact.Ā
And hereās where enters the part of stereotypes.
We are so used to have a stereotype for each emotion that we think theyāre all the same and we all react the same. We immediately link emotions to other words that we canāt get out of the zone of stereotype and into the zone of understanding and we think we all react and feel the same. We hear āsadnessā and we think we all cry. We hear joy and we all think we all smile or laugh. We hear anger and we all think we yell. We hear fear and we all think we shake.
And honestly thatās not that; those are common factors that are shared among the great majority of people, but we donāt stop to understand that itās always on different levels, different ways, and sometimes itās not even that. Thereās people that laugh when theyāre scared, people who go mute and can just walk around when theyāre joyful, the world is so big and vast and humankind is so unique and different and special and weāre all so different that not two people among the billions of them will ever feel the same way.
My happiness will never feel the same than yours, nor my sadness, nor my anger, and any other emotion. We can comprehend each otherās emotions but we canāt truly understand them because theyāre a personal experience and only we know how we experiment them and how we feel them and how we demonstrate them.
So everyone sees Gladio raging out and screaming, frowning and shoving faces, that what we think immediately isĀ āHeās angryā. And yes, yes, heās fucking angry, but an emotion can be a way to demonstrate another emotion. So yes, Gladioās angry, but we never stop to think that his anger is only the way to express other things.
I learned in a course of psychology during high school that anger is only the way to hide sadness. Iām angry at you because you were late, and it made me angry because it hurt me to feel you donāt care, which makes me sad. Iām angry at the worldās homophobia, and Iām angry because I canāt believe this much hatred exists, and it makes me sad. Iām angry at my mom for not coming to my birthday party, and Iām angry about it because I wanted her to be here and it hurt that she didnāt come (these are all merely examples).Ā
Yes, Iām angry that youāre not putting that ring on, and it makes me angry because youāre not filling your duty when others have made huge sacrifices so you do, and honestly it hurts to see the position youāre in, the position Iām in, the position heās in, and I feel like Iām failing you, so please do your duty because Iāve been standing a thousand hells this far for you and I canāt stand to see I couldnāt do it right and have failed you.
Things change, hm?
I think Gladio feels like he failed Noctis because Noctis is not acting as he should be doing it, and instead of feeling itās all on Noctis, Gladio, whoĀ was tasked with making Noctis succeed, sees him fail and doesnāt see him fail but sees himself fail. Because if Noctis failed itās only because Gladio failed (this thought, in his head).
So we add all that we know, Insomnia, Regis, Clarus, Jared, Iris, Ignis, Lunafreya, his own failure, all into one, and then one tiny fact is added, of course thereās only so much one person can take.Ā
Back to the emotions and stereotypes, I meant to say that we all think of the wordĀ āsadā and we think everyone cries, but honestly everyone has their own way of showing sadness. Thereās some that hide it, some that stay quiet, some that furiously cry, some that silently cry, some that decide to vent it into punching things, etc.Ā
Gladioās way of expressing sadness may as well be screaming and hiding behind anger. Because thatās how he was taught to react; no time to cry, just punch things and yell. So, considering he grew up into the philosophy of a cool, dead head, and making the terribly mixture of it with a huge, enormous repressing of emotions, he becomes conflicted, he wants to cry but his brain has no idea how to do that, and what is the only other door thatās open? Anger. So all that Gladio has to cry, he shows it through anger instead. Because thatās his sadness, different from everyone elseās, because I insist none of us show or feel the emotions the same way.
Noctis not putting the ring on probably did upset him, yes, and it annoyed him, but it was more the trigger and excuse than the entire view of his rage. Gladioās not abusive or exaggerating or an idiot for screaming at Noctis for something that may seem so trivial; what he talks about is only the trigger, the tip of the iceberg. The real thing hides underneath and behind.
Usually, when we have a trigger of these sorts, we end up going back to the real reason even if just indirectly.
It happens a lot to me with my mom. Sheās a bit explosive as well, and Iām super understanding about this issue of peopleās emotions and not digging into stereotypes, and I tend to listen very well, so Iām usually her target when she wants to rant about something. And one day you can see her getting upset at me for something like not washing a fork, and three minutes into her rage, sheās talking about why her brothers donāt support or help her when she needs it.Ā
It has nothing to do with the fork. If I wasnāt as understanding as I am, Iād think all the outrage was towards me, against me, because of the fork. But I know the fork was only her trigger, and the real reason goes deeper and into other things.Ā
And what does Gladio say?
He starts talking about the ring, but then, a bit out of place without being too out of placeĀ āIgnis took one for you too, and for what!?ā
Hm? *wiggles eyebrows*
And you know why my mom usually rages at me (without insulting or harming me in any way)? Because she knows I understand, I never yell back, and because she trusts me.Ā
Itās easy for emotions to break free without your consent in front of people you trust.Ā
So Gladioās outrage doesnāt only mean he was sad, frustrated and scared, it can also speak about his trust into Noctis. Honestly, if he wouldnāt believe in him, he wouldnāt have given a damn about the ring. But he wants Noctis to grow as a mature king and fill his role and be responsible and he knows he can do it, so that Noctis is not doing it angers him because he knows he can, and it just triggered him.
Besides, Gladio grows with this idea that he has to be some sort of mentor and guide for Noctis, his protector, the brotherly figure that should be wise and that willĀ āfocus when Noctis canātā. So the adviser having the moral down in the dumps, and Prompto having no official duty, Gladio must feel, consciously or not, that itās on his hands to take the reins and do something, and he wants to put Noctis in his place and be the main column to keep things up.
But Gladio, by this point, is so frustrated himself. Imagine trying to lift everyoneās spirits when honestly you donāt want to or canāt. Of course it turns into frustration, because he knows whatās needed but he doesnāt have it, but no one else has it, so he tries to force himself to it, and only ends up more angered and frustrated, and his attempt to lecture Noctis turns into an argument.
And just a friendly reminder: GLADIO IS ONLY 23 YEARS OLD. Nobody can expect him to be the wisest or anything. Theyāre all stupidly young, so young and put into situations that would freak anyone of any age out, especially someone their age, because theyāre past theĀ āI donāt understand, so I face it fearlesslyā stage and theĀ āI understand fully and have experience enough to face itā stage,t heyāre right in the middle, where they understand perfectly the risks and the problems, but donāt know how to deal with them.
Gladioās 23. Heās young, heās hot-headed at times, of course, of course. It happens. People in the early twenties still donāt know where and how to go, weāre not wise or mature enough yet as much as we think we are, and situations as hard and heavy as the guys face, of course itāll throw them off-guard and out their knowledge and reach.Ā
To be honest, I think that to be so young, he did excepcionally good, incredibly excellent, facing everything.Ā
Having one breakdown is just natural and logical, and it doesnāt take any credit from him. It was fair; he had gone through the journey wise and strong, much wiser and stronger than anyone should ask from someone his age. So a breakdown was very well deserved.Ā
Thing is people donāt understand thatĀ ābreakdownā is not only crying, it can also be anger, and it wonāt stop being a breakdown. Different demonstrations, same thing.Ā
And even though Iām sure Iām forgetting something because I always post stuff forgetting about the best damn arguments or parts, this is what I think of Gladioās outrage in the train, why I understand and support and love it, and why I think itās natural and very well needed.Ā
I love you, Gladio.Ā


















