well the topic of discussion rn is kinda lelouchs vs suzakus politics and how people tend to be very quick to critique suzakus as liberal ideology or whatever which like. it kinda is. and see lelouch as much more simply The Good One when the situations more complicated than that 

people fail to take into account things like their personalities and backgrounds and how, while lelouch is taking a more radical stance in activism thats actually good, hes doing it for selfish reasons p often and comes from like a privileged background that makes him kinda the equivalent of the rich white boy showing up at protests and breaking shit because anarchy or whatever. like hes still opposing fascism which is obviously a good thing to do but imo that doesnt automatically make him a good person (and i dont mean like good pure morals or anything i just mean like politically) 

and suzaku, while his approach isnt as effective is Not just the equivalent of like ur white liberal uncle who says dont fight hate with hate because like. thats not the background hes coming from and not the mindset of his politics and people are quick to dismiss him as an idiot when its like hes not hes just sort of like overly optimistic and also has a lot of internalized issues and self hate hes workin with 

and even tho i was a much less thoughtful person a couple years ago when i was more Majorly hating on lelouch it was basically for the same reasons. i dont think fandom Critiques him enough while they come down so hard on suzaku. i do love him as a character but a lot of that comes from the complexities that people arent as willing to discuss. 

i know im like the self proclaimed queen of outdated code geass memes (see: my url)

idk if ur talkin nina or cornelia or both lmao