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I had a dream, almost like a premonition, that there's an attack coming.
Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice
dir: Zack Snyder
Understanding BvSâs Lex Luthor: CSA and Repressed Homosexuality
(Re-posted with minor revisions after I moved accounts and accidentally deleted this post)
Lexâs motivations are quite explicit in BvS, he has a whole speech explaining why he is doing what heâs doing and what he says is consistently shown throughout his screentime. But I think there is a lot unspoken beneath the surface that most people wouldnât think of, based on my observations I think that BvSâs Lex was molested by his father and that heâs sexually attracted to Clark, and that his issues with Superman partially stem from the duality of desiring Clark and being afraid of him. That may sound strange, especially the csa bit, but hear me out because there is quite a bit of evidence and it may give you a clearer perspective on the character.
NOTE: I just want to clarify that it is not at all my intention to equate homosexuality with CSA nor demonize CSA survivors, Iâm simply observing this particular character who happens to be a villain. Lex being attracted to Clark doesnât make him villainous, the way he deals with it because of trauma and internalized homophobia is the problem.
1.) Daddyâs Abominations?
âNo man in the sky intervened when I was a boy to save me from daddyâs fists and abominations!â
This is quite self-explanatory, Lex just said that his father sexually abused him. The only other possible interpretation I could think of is a more general âmy dad made me evil because he was evilâ but thatâs a really weak explanation especially since the line is equated with the trauma of being beaten by his dad and the way he is very visibly triggered saying that line. When he finishes âabominationsâ he immediately flinches away from Superman and shakes his hand in front of his face as if desperately trying to erase what he just confessed.
2.) Lolita + Alice in Wonderland
âPlain Lo in the morning, Lola is slacks -â
âLate, late says the white rabbitâ
Lolita and Alice in Wonderland...those are interesting choices of literature for a supervillain to quote. Youâd think something more threatening and/or pretentious would be an obvious choice for a traditional mastermind-type supervillain rather than two obscure (not very masculine) classics that only have one thing in common: themes of sexual obsession and pedophilia.
Lolita is the story of a pedophile who uses his power as a step-father to groom and sexually abuse a child. Alice in Wonderland, while not having explicit pedophilic content, was written by a suspected pedophile and is obsessively focused on a child that there are photographs of the author kissing on the mouth. These are the two novels Lex relates to enough to quote them casually off the top of his head.
3.) The âitâs cherryâ scene
So this is obviously a sexual innuendo but the question is, why this guy? This character is utterly unimportant on his own and this doesnât affect anything plot-wise which means this action is entirely about characterizing Lex. What are they trying to communicate here? This guy represents a figure similar to Lexâs father, an older businessman who behaved as if he had authority over Lex, and Lexâs instinct to that is to assert dominance in a sexually suggestive manner. This establishes Lex as a character who uses sexuality to dominate and make others uncomfortable, and relates it to a man who who represents his father.
4.) Two Versions Of The Same Scene
Lex caressing Zodâs face directly parallels him caressing around Clarkâs face, even the framing is identical. I think these are two versions of Lex confronting Superman, one with the actual Superman where he has to keep his distance and put on a callous front, and the other with a Kryptonian corpse he can project Superman onto. The scene with Zod I think shows how Lex truly feels about Clark. âYou flew too close to the sunâ heâs saying this and crying as heâs creating a monster to kill Clark which makes me think those words were not for Zod but the god he feels he has to kill. Thereâs no reason for Lex to cry for Zod, Lex has no relationship with him, itâs much more coherent that this scene is using Zodâs body as a substitute for what Lex canât express to the real Superman.
EDIT: Upon rewatch I noticed a small moment where the Jolly Rancher Dude (I donât think he has a name lol?) says with a smile âYou want Zodâs body?â and Lex goes âOkayâ, itâs a very playful interaction and it I think strengthens the connection between Zodâs body being an implied sex symbol of Superman.
4.5.) The Sexual Tension In The Rooftop Scene
Every moment of the rooftop scene (and all of this film) is so multilayered and intense, I could talk about it for hours but I want to talk a little more about the moment in the above gif.
Seconds before this, Lex was wagging his fingers inches for Supermanâs glowing laser eyes but now when he knows Clark isnât going to attack him, he wonât touch him? Lex is less afraid of having his fingers burned off than he is to touch Clarkâs head knowing that he wonât do anything. Because Lex would be happy if Superman burned him, that would prove him right and give him an easy category to put Clark in but letting himself touch Clark in an âaffectionateâ manner is terrifying.
A straight male villain that just wanted to use physical contact to assert dominance over the hero would have touched Clark here (and also would have no reason to caress Zodâs dead body) but Lex canât even though heâs literally trembling with desire to and we know for a fact heâs not afraid of invading Clarkâs personal space in an even more physically dangerous moment.
5.) The Dual Realities Of An Abused Child
âIf God is all good then he cannot be all powerful.â
Now, Iâm not an expert in psychology but I will do my best to articulate this. When someone, especially a child, is abused by someone they love it creates an extreme paradox in their mind. They love this person and they have to trust them but they also have to fear them, their brains are forced to compartmentalize when this person is a threat vs when they are a protector. In some cases, like Lexâs, this can lead to someone entirely thinking in absolutes and dualities.
Itâs a consistent theme in Lexâs dialogue that he thinks in absolutes. The cornerstone of his ideology is people have to be âall goodâ or âall powerfulâ when really no one is either, there arguably is no such thing as either.
Itâs also a theme that he has dual views of people in his life, the most prominent being his father and Superman. In one scene heâs reminiscing about wishing his dad would come back, in another heâs emotionally describing the abuse he inflicted. And Lex does the same with Clark as explained in point 4.
Lex even seems to have a dual view of himself. In the rooftop scene he points to himself as âthe evil in the worldâ but his speech about Prometheus at the party is clearly meant to illustrate that he sees himself as a misunderstood savior of humanity (this is even confirmed in the bonus material).
6.) Internalized Homophobia
âI donât hate the sinner, I hate the sin.â
Two things are important to me with this line. First is that it reinforces point 5 but also this is a very, very common phrase in homophobic rhetoric so for him to say this and gesture to Clarkâs body as the âsinâ has implications. And yes, yes, I know he meant that Clarkâs powers are a sin but things can have double meanings and I sincerely doubt that anyone making a movie in the western worldâs current political climate wouldnât realize that phrase is strongly linked to homophobia.
To elaborate on how it reinforces 5: Lex is openly saying that he doesnât hate Clark, he just hates his power, which brings us back to the idea of an abuse victimâs dual reality. Itâs Clarkâs power that is the threat to him but he can still love Clark, same way his fatherâs abuse was a threat but he can still love his father. Note: Lex calls Clark âmy friendâ and âClark Joeâ and similar affectionate names throughout their interactions which I think suggests that Lex sees Clark as partially a person.
7.) Conclusion
DCEUâs Lex Luthor was a fresh, contemporary take on the character so it was a jarring difference from the Lex weâve seen in other recent mainstream media. I also think it was upsetting partially because it took away Lex as a male power fantasy; a buff, suave billionaire whoâs hyper masculine and doesnât let anything get to him including his canonical abuse. Now weâve got this definitely charming and silver-tongued but effeminate and deeply traumatized Lex that I think is much, much more dynamic and compelling (and definitely fits this universe) but was uncomfortable for people that were attached to the charecter as a male power fantasy.
Nevertheless we need more villains like this. That can be both intimidating and vulnerable, that are human and offer a real ideological opposition to the hero. BvS could not have been the story it is without this Lex. BvS is a brilliant and nuanced film about how fear and trauma affects peopleâs worldviews, which is an important thing to explore when you have a Superhero that is the embodiment of hope. Itâs important to show that not everyone can have hope so easily and to humanize those people.
Anyways this post is really long and I could literally talk for days about DCEU and this film especially so thanks for reading, please be respectful in the notes.
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yâall criticize zack a lot but as if the man doesnât use a metric TON of symbolism and good usage of the different aspects of film narrative as a director. like.....
seriously.... stick your dislike of âdark edgyâ films to the wall for a sec. zack uses ALL of the different avenues that make up film to build his narrative. he never lapses. he uses sound, cinematography, setting, color(AND LACK OF BECAUSE FUCK YOU LACK OF COLOR IS IMPORTANT), editing, acting, and his own personal style to BUILD something more. like the MOST important rule of film is ânever let anything be arbitraryâ.
you have someone in a reflection? that should have meaning. you have specific symbolism inferring certain character arcs are important? MEANING. color, sound, cuts, cinematography. MEANING. zack is picky with his actors, as a lot of big directors are, he is also picky with his DP(director of photography) and his composers and musical supervisors. he edits his films or works much more closely with his editors than most directs AND he never works a film without his wife, and heâs picky about his screenwriters and works heavily with them to build story
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you donât have to be a fan of his style but like. his technique is nearly flawless.
i canât always watch guillermo del toro or christopher nolan or stanley kubrick for personal reasons, but that doesnât mean that i donât recognize their impact and influence and execution of technique.
yâall yell all sorts of shit about zack snyder and blatantly ignore what a skilled director he is so you can feel better and high and mighty
lmao give me a break
Me *about to click on a BvS review*: This person is most likely Ma*vel-biased. Theyâll interpret everything Znyder did as dark and dramatic and not give a thought to the beautiful cinematography and direction the movie went in. Theyâll take the âMarthaâ scene at its most shallow and not as a representation of Bruceâs past trauma.
Person: interprets everything Znyder did as dark and dramatic, doesnât give a thought to the beautiful cinematography and direction, takes âMarthaâ scene at its most shallow, has review of a Ma*vel movie and calls it âfunâ and âcolorfulâ
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Supermanâs most important attributes by M.Schinke I had not intended to write a series of Superman articles, and indeed I will write about some other things I have on my mind, but with the reâŠ
â As I stated in my last Superman article, my take on the character is different than most in that his optimism is internalised. My Superman gets up every day no matter how he feels or what he thinks and does what he does because he believes he can help make the world better. That is an optimistic attitude. Itâs not about smiles or pats on the back or thumbs up for the cameras. Itâs not about making people feel comfortable and safe while you pull them from the wreckage of a fallen building. Optimism is a perspective; a point of view you choose to have. Itâs looking at what you have and seeing how you can make it better. You put that together with faith, the belief in something with no proof, and you have a powerful brew for making change. Itâs not about ebullience; itâs about belief. â
â I promise to let this go; but only when the rest of the world does. We project so much of what we wanât onto a character and Superman just has all the right ingredients to make the perfect meal. But we want that meal to be full of cake and ice cream; all the things that make us feel good with none of that nasty nutrition that we actually need to grow and become stronger, better people. Empty platitudes about hope and optimism wonât get us anywhere without someone slogging through the shit to show us what itâs all for. If Superman canât get dirty, if that character canât take the beatings and keep ticking, if HE canât survive the darkness; what hope is there for the rest of us? â