bohemial replied to your post:feminism is deeply ableist feminism is deeply...
yo what do u mean by this? im not trying to be rude im just curious
yeah no problem, i will try to explain
i keep forgetting that not everyone who follows me has intimate knowledge of all my innermost thoughts on stuff so im just going to preface this by saying that im definitely a feminist, and trying to make society less ridiculously unequal is basically my main goal in life
and also that, like i said, antifeminist ideologies and other alternatives to feminism are also generally ableist and adultist, and iām sure i would feel that even more acutely if i spent as much time in those communities as i do in feminist communities
but ableism is everywhere in feminism. often, feminists assume that all people have equal ability to do the work of activism (and should be equally called out for refusing to do that work). this is one vivid example. but also feminists who criticize people for having to avoid issues that trigger them.
and here are a bunch of other examples, thereās a lot more than this but these are the ones i can name off the top of my head: a lot of feminists decide that people are anti-feminist/bigoted if they donāt ātalk likeā the feminists they know, which is unfair. i also see stuff like equating ānice guysā to autistic men or men with social anxiety. thereās often implications that if people were āsmarterā theyād be less bigoted, which is really shitty to people with intellectual disabilities. sometimes the discourse around transness centers on passing, which disadvantages people who medically canāt transition. (most of the examples i can think of are about feminists being ableist toward people similar to me, i know there are a lot more things that could be said about ableism against people with non-brain-based disabilities, sorry)
feminism is also very adultist, sometimes very acutely so due to the fact that having to be associated with children (who are even lower-status than adult women) has historically been one of the ways patriarchy oppresses women.
feminists complain about āinfantilizationā, implicitly saying that such mistreatment and denial of agency would be okay if it were directed at children. feminism contains the childfree movement, which by its very name implies that children are akin to pests (and while i wholeheartedly support the right of people who donāt want to enter parent-child relationships not to do so, many many people in the childfree movement use adultism and adultist slurs (ābratsā, ālittle shitsā, etc) to make their point). feminists often subtly or unsubtly frame issues of childrenās welfare as womenās rights issues--i.e. the right of women to have safe children--which is extremely gross and dehumanizing to the real victims.Ā
because the ways in which women and people assigned female are dehumanized are often similar to the ways in which children are dehumanized, feminists who talk about these issues while forgetting that children of all genders suffer the same or very similar things end up actively erasing children. for example this post i made kind of gets at some of those issues, think of feminists saying āyou shouldnāt have to suffer that kind of control and abuse from someone who purports to love youā, when in actuality they would support that kind of behavior if perpetrated by a parent against a child--not only are they in favor of oppressing children, theyāre forgetting that children exist at all.Ā
and again thats just a bunch of disorganized examples i came up with off the top of my head but maybe you can kind of see the scope of the problem? and again i dont think that āstop being a feministā is a good response to these problems, but itās definitely forced me to greatly reduce my engagement with feminist circles for the time being.











