Hi Roo's Daddy, Any chance you can detail what her training has been? It sounds like such a steep slope. Some people take years of untraining to get to where she is today.
Ah, good questions for the Daddy!
Her training has been very progressive. We've gradually gotten her used to every single stage of diapering and dependence over the last nine months.
Since it's been so progressive, I can't exactly remember a perfect timeline of what happened when! But here's the gist:
First, about this time last year, I bought her goodnights to wear. She wanted to try wearing them, but was super super embarrassed about the whole thing. So it took a little while to warm her up to that.
Then, I bought her her first ABDL diapers to try out. I remember her saying "these are SO BIG!"
At some point, she wanted a few more rules, so I made it a requirement that she wears her pull-ups to bed every night. At that point, we had talked about training her to be a bedwetter, but it wasn't until January that we really kicked it into gear.
I bought her more pull-ups, and started using a potty chart for her every day. She had to drink a big, 20oz bottle of water (a cute pink bottle that I got her), every night right before bed. Then, if she got up in the middle of the night, she was instructed to use her pull-up and go back to sleep.
We quickly figured out that this didn't works so well... she was flooding the pull-ups easily! So she was the one that asked me to get her something more substantial for nighttime. That's when we started down the road of diapering her every night.
I think we started by using the Abena M4's? We gradually moved her up in absorbency (she's a pretty heavy wetter and likes more secure and safe diapers at night), until her current diaper, the Incontrol BeDry nights. By some accounts, the most absorbent overnight diaper on the market!
Each night, the rule was the same. She has to put her diaper on before bed, drink her 20oz bottle of water, and go to sleep. And then, if she wakes up in the middle of the night, she's supposed to pee her diaper, and then go to sleep.
While this was happening, I was gradually introducing her to pull-ups in the daytime. She really liked how comfy they were, but the fact that they were so easy to leak made things a little tricky. I'd give her water-drinking challenges, she would pee in them, and then occasionally she might have a little leak.
I think what made her most susceptible to being diaper trained is how embarrassed Roo gets by leaking. Wearing diapers is, of course, super embarrassing at her age, but for Roo, leaking has always been on a whole other level. Whether it's a little spot on her jeans or a big accident in bed, she goes into a small, vulnerable, and very fragile state when she leaks... even if it wasn't her fault. She gets very, very little. So minimizing those moments was important to her!
Which is why I didn't meet much resistance from her when I started buying her daytime diapers (Betterdry Day diapers, and the purple Tena diapers), to wear occasionally in the daytime. At first, it was a fun thing to do around the house. Then, I would challenge her to wear during class (she was still in school at the time)... then, at other social events like parties. At some point– and I can't remember what precipitated this– I told her she had to wear her daytime diapers for a whole week, and (after putting up a little embarrassed fuss), she eventually agreed, and got slowly slowly used to wearing daytime diapers. That was a fun period... she got really good at changing, timing her changes so she could do most of them at home, and being sneaky. It became super fun for her!
At that point (about 2 months in) was her first bedwetting accident. I remember it being a really big shock for her... she had had a few "events" over the previous couple weeks where she could just barely, barely remember waking up in the middle of the night to go. But this time, she genuinely had no memory of it! From that point, it was just a few more weeks until she was having what we were calling "real bedwetting" incidents, 2-3 nights a week. These days, according to her star chart, it's between 5-7 nights a week, and never less than that.
She didn't really know if it was real for a while– maybe it was just a thing she did in diapers, and not outside them? But a couple of incidents over the last few months (bedwetting when she forgot to put one on for a nap, for example) have confirmed it... she's actually a bedwetter now. So cute!
Meanwhile, her daytime control was definitely taking a hit. I'd say her bedwetting at night definitely contributed to some loss of daytime control. She was having more and more frequent accidents, and more "unauthorized" wettings, where she couldn't quite remember whether she told her body to go or not. At some point, we started tracking times she thought she had a "genuine" wetting accident in the day, as opposed to just using her diaper. In the beginning, we had a much more complicated sticker chart for every single type of "incident" she had during the day (tracking whether she changed in public, for example, whether she had an accident during sex, etc.), but now we just keep it simple. She gets a blue star for bedwetting, and a gold star for a daytime accident.
At some point, I stopped buying her her daytime-branded diapers, and switched her to the regular BetterDry diapers. This was because she was getting some anxiety about leaking in them, especially during her longer classes or social outings, and I offered to get her heavier diapers to solve this problem. I remember she was mortified when she first tried them in the day ("they're huge!!!!") but over the weeks and months, she's gotten so used to them that I think she can't go back to the lighter-capacity ones in the day. I bought her some daytime diapers a couple weeks ago, and she ended up giving them to me to hold onto because she just wasn't using them. It was pretty cute when she realized that the same, lighter diapers she had started with– which she begged to keep using a few months back– were now way too insubstantial for her level of untraining. That said, I may get her a couple of packs of the Tena's at some point... she has a special love of the purple ones, and they are useful for times you want to be more discreet.
Other than that, it's been a pretty steady, one-way-trip to being a diaper trained little girl! She'll periodically want to try pull-ups in the daytime again for a couple of days, because she isn't really feeling it or wants to take a break (or is around family for an extended period of time). That'll last a few days, but when she inevitably realizes that diapers make her feel less anxious and more comfy at this point, she'll switch back unprompted. I've noticed that, in the first few days after she switches back, her control gets noticeably worse, and she starts telling me about more unauthorized accidents. It's like the switch back to diapers does something to her subconscious, and she gets more and more regressed and untrained than she was before...
That's all for now! Keep the questions coming, while Roo's on concussion-caused screen quarantine! ;)














