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What would your ideal season of Arrow be like?
Consistent.Â
Like thatâs the short answer, obviously, but the lack of consistency is my biggest pet peeve. And I mean that in every way. Respect for the established history of the characters and show is key (aka Felicity remains allergic to nuts). Actions should be dictated by characters, not by the desired outcome of the writers, as often feels the case. Emotional beats need to be scattered throughout. Action, fighting, danger, plot⊠all of that needs to come back to personal connections on a regular basis. I care more about whatâs happening to a character if I see how itâs effecting the people around them and how they interact.Â
Iâm all for a big bad who arcs across the season, but it seems that they frequently rely on a name and a mask to carry them through rather than making the villain have depth (exceptions being Prometheus, to a point, and - back in season two, anyhow - Slade). I strongly prefer when the show is grounded in reality, too. Damian Darhkâs powers were a big miss, IMO, and his character felt like a cliche from start to finish (in spite of fantastic acting). Â
This is where things are gonna get more negative. I wanna emphasize this is my opinion and where Iâm at with the show right now. Some people are surely going to disagree with me about most of the points on here. I donât really care to debate them. But it ties in directly to the question I was asked and this is how I see things right now.Â
There remains for me, at this point, a cringe factor with the show that harkens back to the influence of Kreisberg and Guggenheim - and yes I am painting them with the same brush because of a litany of comments made by Guggenheim (compiled by @geneeste). There are strokes of good fortune (an IT girl) and some brilliant characters (Felicity) with tremendous actors (EBR, Amell, Ramsey) who keep me engaged with tangible chemistry (OTA). However, too frequently there are serious issues brushed across that are swept under the rug. Gun violence. Nyssa and Oliverâs forced marriage. Felicityâs paralysis. Ray (definitely, absolutely, no matter what Guggenheim says) stalking Felicity. The reintroduction of Felicityâs father to her life and revelation it was her mother who forced him out. The erasure of Baby Sara. All of the massive amounts of psychological trauma inflicted on Thea by MalcolmâŠ
The list could go on forever, but all of these elements are things that they glazed over and brushed aside rather than dealing with in a realistic way. While the list could surely include more, the ones that came to mind immediately all had to do with problems faced by women. And I think itâs evident at this point that women are not something the EPs care about or even understand. Itâs left these character consistently short-changed and thatâs significantly impacted my enjoyment (and viewership) of the show.Â
So my ideal season, I suppose, would be one with Beth Schwartz and Sarah Tarkoff at the helm along with Wendy Mericle. It would balance an empathetic, grounded villain with emotionally bonded characters who act in ways that always feel true to who they are and follows through on the impact of trials that the characters undergo.Â
Thatâs a season of Arrow that Iâd surely love to see.Â
i think what bothers me about this whole spin arrow is taking with oliver and felicity is that, despite how cute they look, and they do, 1 - i feel like this is a rehash of something old, the way arrow does the so-called parallels. aka by literally doing over what they did once before that seemed to work. and therefore making it seem like they have no idea how to come up with newness when it comes to relationships.
and 2 - that they have spun this ride so many times, and each and every time all the decisions, all the cards, all the agency has always been in oliverâs hands. and felicity is just ... yâknow, there. looking really lovely. all her decisions feel like reactions. from the pot of what i know is hazy memory of all that has happened before, it seems to me like all the time since s3 she has had zero initiative. they don't seem to decide anything together. itâs oliver making decisions and felicity scrambling to catch up when the narrative lets her, or making her to be stupid/cruel/insensitive when it needs her away.Â
the more i think of it the more it seems to me like she has no internal logic of her own, as a character (from the writers pop i mean). her internal logic is âwhat does oliverâs story need nowâÂ
Hey so I saw in the ask meme that you did you said you hated the olicity argus hospital scene. I also had problems with it and when I see people say that they don't like it I'm curious if it's for the same reasons. Can you explain why you didn't like it?
hey anon. sorry it took me a while to get to this. I wanted to do this answer justice but to be quite honest itâs kind of exhausting just thinking about my reasons for disliking that scene. to put it simply - what it boils down to is that felicity shouldnât have had to take back the (very valid) reason why she broke up with oliver. her saying âI get it nowâ is a very poorly written attempt to retcon what happened in s4b. he lied to her. not once but repeatedly, for a prolonged period of time, and he proposed to her and even pushed forward the date of the wedding because he wanted to marry her more than he wanted her to know the truth. he could have said that he had to keep something from her and he couldnât say what it was, and at least maybe then she wouldnât have been led into wanting to marry him. what bothers me is less the lie itself (that in itself was poorly written too) and more everything oliver did in spite of that lie.Â
and the thing is. I donât mind oliver most of the time. I chalk up his behaviour around laurel to shitty writing. I chalk up his actions in this shitty storyline to the same thing. and I think if the original timeline was restored and felicity found out about william from barry early on, and she confronted him and they had it out there, it would have culminated in something very different because he only hid it from her for a few days at most. but in the timeline that exists now, he kept something from her and proposed to her in spite of it. and thatâs what bothers me.Â
and I get it. look, I know oliverâs been through a lot of trauma and his time on the island has made him a damaged person. and some people argue that the storyline and that hospital scene was the showâs way of indicating that felicity was more accepting of said trauma. but when her character - and oliverâs - was assassinated in the process, it just doesnât work. add to that the fact that the word ptsd has never been mentioned on the show (bar one time, to which ollieâs response was âIâm not crazyâ) and they had a wealth of missed opportunities to explore his ptsd recovery in season 4 and I just think the show missed the mark when it came to exploring oliver and felicityâs characters in the end of that episode. and thatâs a shame because I enjoyed the majority of it.Â
I hope that all makes sense. thanks for asking, anon, and apologies for getting to this later than expected.
Mini Twitter-rant
So you may have seen the comments Marc apparently made at Wondercon this weekend:
These pissed me off. And sparked a mini twitter rant this morning, which I thought I would share with you:

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Why Susan Williams is a Terrible Representation of Journalists (with Sources!)
So this (rather funny) post is going around, and I though it might be helpful (and cathartic!) to explain why people (read: citizens and actual journalists) are so annoyed with Susanâs characterization as a âprofessionalâ âjournalist.â
A little background on me: I was a journalist for about 4-5 years and a public information officer for 2-3 before I went into my current field. I wasnât a government/current affairs reporter like Susan; I was a business journalist for most of my career, although I would argue that business journalists need a firmer grasp of ethical reporting for obvious reasons (lots of money and influence involved in that game).
Anyway - I canât believe Iâm going into this kind of rant over a fictional character on a TV show, but LETâS DO IT ANYWAY.
So hereâs the main three complaints most people have regarding Susan:
She has a personal and romantic relationship with a public figure on whom sheâs reporting;
Sheâs paid for interviews/in exchange for information;
Sheâs broken a confidential relationship with a source.
Based on my own research (which Iâm happy to give you if youâre interested!), there are four basic and overarching standards that reporters of all kinds try to follow:
The media serves the public interest.
The media has an obligation to the truth.
The media should commit to an objective method of reporting.
The media should maintain its professional independence.
Now obviously these standards can be explained in way more detail (and should be), but for our purposes and simplicityâs sake, these are the main ethical standards through which weâre going to evaluate Susan. Here we go!
Arrow S05E15: Fighting Fire with Fire reaction
blackcanarydinah replied to your post âi think what bothers me about this whole spin arrow is taking with...â
it rly doesnt feel like parallels? it's actually a lot like what most of us wished to have had w s3. for now it does feel like most the initiatives are oliver's but he always makes sure to involve felicity befor e making a decision this time around. to me it's not that theyre rehashing old sls but rather they want to show that oliver learned from his mistake which is goodÂ
i get all of that, its easy to see actually. but thatâs not what i meant -Â i don't mean literal parallels. it feels like theyâre doing this the way they do the parallels. I'm not even sure that the is the best way to say this, honestly.
besides, i don't get this feeling from the inside-the-story pov. like, oliverâs thinking, felicityâs thinking. oliver involves her etc, and this is great. (even though be honest, after five years of watching this show, it feels like this turn is coming too late, or like iâve kind of seen it before or something? because the fact that heâs doing this now, undermines stuff he did before? that back then looked like he was doing one thing but now it turns out he wasnât? christ, i don't know how to explain this, whatever.). (this is not about the portrayal about his mental illness so much as about the storytelling, and how it confuses me because there seems to be no continuity. or internal logic or something.)Â
but its not about that. itâs a feeling i have from the writers. the way they tell the story, something i became aware of a while ago and that now i can't unlearn, you know. itâs everywhere, and it really keeps me from enjoying any aspect of the show. every time i get the urge to write something that validates canon, this feeing is like a slap to the face.