Aug 28, 2025
Something antitheists don't understand in my experience:
How much some people really, really, and I mean REALLY just want to worship dragons.
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Something antitheists don't understand in my experience:
How much some people really, really, and I mean REALLY just want to worship dragons.
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So you are fine with Orthodox Jewish communities lying to their children about the age of the earth? Because "Baby's First Critical Theory".
I love how you use "Orthodox Jewish communities" as a hypothetical as if I'm not actually someone who grew up in an Orthodox Jewish community. I went to Jewish Day School all my life. Our school day was extra-long, and it was split between Judaic studies and secular studies. In my Judaic studies we learned what many Jewish interpretations believe. In my science classes we learned what science believes. I was given the tools to choose for myself.
Nobody was lying to me- it's true that many within Orthodox Judaism take the Tanakh literally, and believe the Earth is 5,782 years old. That's their truth. It's not lying to say that according to the Tanakh, it has been 5,782 years since the creation of Adam. Because yeah, that's the truth, the Jewish year wouldn't be recorded that way otherwise.
And my teachers that staunchly believed in Tanakh-literalism? They also staunchly believed in combatting climate change and preserving the planet. Because taking care of the Earth and fighting against overconsumption and waste and harm to animals are key tenets in Judaism.
Passing down your cultural beliefs isn't lying to your kids.
And even if it was.....why do you care so much about the Truth? Why do you care so much about everyone sharing the same Truth as you? Sounds pretty Christian to me to have that ideology, that everyone should bow to your beliefs and yours alone.
I have personal friends and co-workers who are atheists and none of them became atheist because of science but because they were deeply hurt emotionally and felt that God has failed them in one way or another, so they had said to themselves "there's no God, there never was" and would post anti-God memes and comments, I don't engage into a scientific debate with them but try to be a good friend and answer whatever biblical question they have. Sometimes you don’t have the answer and that’s okay, just tell him that you don’t know and that you will look into it. When you’re honest and transparent with someone, they will respect you more. #Repost @atheism_is_dead_official ・・・ Atheists hide their despair. #Atheist #Atheists #Atheism #Antitheist#Antitheists #Antitheism #AtheismIsDead #christianity #bible #jesus #love#instagood #me #smile https://www.instagram.com/p/BuSczIEFl7u/?utm_source=ig_tumblr_share&igshid=1iaki193igv9a
seeing a leftist blog i used to really like posting about how antitheism is the best and that people "shouldn't be allowed to participate in organized religion" is so fucking crazy to me... why do antitheists act like religion is just some useless byproduct of a fucked up, non-ideal society that humans have been living in ever since we started drawing cave paintings? they act like religion is somethinf we're just gonna calmly get rid of once we're Sufficiently Advanced and no longer need religion. and it's also such bullshit to think that organized religion is the thing that causes all the ills of the world.... ugh. i'm really sick of white leftists who think antitheism is the only correct belief
I can't explain what's up with any individual person out there, but in general the more stressed out and desperate we are, the more we want easy, simplistic answers to our problems. It's easy to pin all the blame on religion if you don't know a whole lot about religion outside of how it manifests in deeply conservative environments, and how the kind of religion pushed by conservatives are intentional social technologies created to protect their socio-economic interests. Under these conditions, it's easy to see all of religion (or even all of "organized religion") as the big bad of the world.
But yeah like, religion actually does so many things, I think claiming that nobody will ever need any kind of religion is deeply naive. (And before anybody out there wants to project something I'm not saying onto what I just wrote here, please read this.)
Honestly, if antitheists want to be taken more seriously by indigenous and other POC that don't already agree with them, then they should acknowledge that the current definition and workings of religion as it stands today is a western colonial concept, and in order to "take out" religion then you must therefore abolish western colonial systems in all places, not just the USA.
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Why do so many antitheists black out and act like I'm lying when I say non theist religions like Jainism and Taoism exist?
In my opinion, it's because it challenges the narratives they're using to sustain their egos. Certain atheists have created certain narratives based on oversimplistic understandings of history and sociology that frames atheists as victims and warriors in an eternal fight against a boogyman named "religion," which is largely modeled on western conservative Christianity and Islam as understood through a western lens.
Notice here how this narrative mirrors conservative Christian narratives of people who believe in the truth vs. Satan's demonic hordes. This isn't an accident. Simplistic "us vs. them" narratives feed the ego, and as such they are difficult to relinquish.
Admitting that nontheistic (and even nonsupernaturalist) religions exist would require questioning these simplistic narratives, which would require questioning how they see themselves and how they relate to the world. This would not only be uncomfortable for their egos, but it would also mean they'd have to stop assuming the role of victim-warrior, which means they no longer have an easy way to feel righteous all the time.
Also a lot of western antitheists don't actually have a clear grasp about what indigenous antitheism is about besides the fact they share the same label as them, and the stereotype of indigenous people all being spirituality hurting them.
I've heard this! Like, antitheists from different religions are going to have different concerns because not all religions are the same, and if you want to ally with these people you gotta find out what their concerns actually are. Otherwise you're going to be as useless to them as a screen door on a submarine.
It always makes me giggle when antitheists go on and on about the "pro religious left" because it just reminds me of Republicans talking about the "radical left" and also, the "pro religious left" are their allies in this encroaching wave of Christofascism, because most churches are some of the best places to organize and have mutual aid networks, especially for the disabled, because they tend to have more accommodations for them.
Yeah lol.