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hey so ive exploring punk, and i have a question i dont think the softer types around tumblr can answer, sorry if its dumb or if it pisses you off, but ive been curious
what exactly is the, uh, 'appeal'? of the noisier subgenres like crust or d beat and stuff? not to be disrespectful but what makes it good? or does it take some kind of mindset to get it? cuz i really dont understand, still fascinating in a way
I have tried to write down the appeal for a little bit but realized that it is impossible. It has the same appeal as any music genre. I enjoy listening to it, and it makes me happy. Personally, what really started my obsession with the genres was seeing skitsystem live in like ~2018. I had been to a lot of smaller gigs with more "standard punk" bands at that time, but nothing before matched the energy from both the band and the crowd. I was acquainted with some raw punk/crust bands earlier but seeing it live just clicked for me. The genre also comes with a strong, tight-knit community both in person and online. I've met both my girlfriend of almost three years and my best friends through it.
Just like any extreme music genre, you have to get used to it. If you go from listening to dead kennedys to disclose, there is a big chance you are not going to like it.
If you want to get into it, some good starting off points would be these releases.
Discharge- why? (1981) the band that started it all. d in d-beat stands for discharge. This album is a clear continuation of the anarchopunk of bands like crass, but combined with motörhead-esque riffs and drumming but played faster. Being the originator of the genre means that it isn't as extreme as later bands.
Inepsy- Rock n roll babylon (2003) motörhead worshipping metal punk. The sweet spot right between motörhead and discharge. I love this band a lot. Out of all of the releases on this list this might be the "easiest" listen out of all of them.
Amebix- no sanctuary (1983) one of the first bands you can consider crust. This album is raw and heavy but is rather melodic and slow at times. There are clear influences from post punk.
Anti cimex- Scandinavian Jawbreaker (1992) some of the best riffs ever written, clean production, not as raw as their early releases. Metal punk at it's finest.
I love arguing with people online, but this isn't a sensitive subject or anything like that for me. Like most people into this, my life centres around this subculture. Feel free to ask anything else!
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ARTIST MID FROM ENGLISH CRUST PUNK BAND DEVIATED INSTINCT - MID 80S - I interviewed Mid for my zine Die Wurst a few years back - (issue is sold out but I’ll post the interview on the GOBLINKO site today. I feel like Crust Punk followed the lines of Punk (this is all following English Punk) being the apocalypse, UK/82 continuing that & then crust being the post-apocalypse. While there are many who just saw Punk as dead so they did the Post-Punk thing, there were many who continued on as if Punk hadn’t died, because it hadn’t, it just changed, got scruffier, smellier, crustier. At the same time, English Metal was going through the same muck which produced bands that would eventually become Grindcore - but they emerged from the same muddy fields of some music festival for people who like their music loud, fast & distorted. But, this music also played with the contrast & slowed it way down. I asked Mid about if gaming played into Deviated Instinct. Mid - Yeah, back in the early-mid 80’s I was quite into the original Dungeons and Dragons games, I had the classic blue & red box’s. An old school friend was really into being a dungeon master and would plan out games for 3 or 4 of us to play. I was also really into painting little figures, especially the old metal ones, I had quite a large collection of Orcs that were all super detailed painted up. I have no idea what happened to all those, I don’t know if they just got lost between house moves over the decades or if I gave them away. As I mentioned before, all that imagery definitely fed into my art back then. It really only lasted a few years though &!I’ve not played anything like that since. I don’t have the patience. Sometimes I feel like it would be great to really get into RPG computer games or something.