#4ish

(i've said this before but i'll say it again bc it's my favourite part abt 4c) the thing is he loves getting hurt but more than that! he loves goading people into hurting him. this is especially true in relationships like 4ac and 4n (4c/nom) in which the other parties also enjoy tormenting 4c! with apocherri's frequent kidnappings of 4c and nom's [everything.][knowing how many crits it takes to get 4c to one heart (two), loves chasing 4c around, the whole mace thing] and 4ish is such a delightful exception to that bc instead of goading ish into hurting him (though he does do it sometimes. see: that one part in the mccdd peak stream where 4c was giggling at the prospect of ish yelling at him after he throws ish's body off a cliff) he just . goads ish regularly. it's so great

i especially cant stop thinking about the Peak stream they did with Cam and Scott durings 4Cs subathon and im actuallt so sad cause neither Ish nor 4C have that VOD posted anywhereee </33 and im just sitting here praying 4C posts it

Like their dynamic is so lovely to me,, i love how they both have that rage baity prankster kind of personality and how dedicated they are to bits, and it was so fucking funny when during that stream 4C would feed Ish a bunch of bullshit and Ish altough he'd freak out and complain he also lowkey just let him. Like 4C asking him to come closer, and Ish knew damn well he was gonna do something, but he still came over to him. And he ended up getting fed something poisonous 😭😭 Or how 4C dedicated sooo much time and effort to getting his hunger to 80% just so he could fucking eat him just to not be able to do that so he suicide baited instead. And despite knowing 4C wanted to eat him like at practically the very end of the game, he still got soo concerned about him killing himself right before they won.

I also love them in DaD but like i lowk dont know all that much abt them in there... i still have like maybe 5 eps to watch SIGHHH....

But uh yeah there needs to be more 4Ish truthers out there. Hah. Anybody?? (please)(<- pathetically) Like theyre just got atoxic relationship going on and its so beautiful. In every universe too, always up to some bullshit

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HARUNAS :333

Ish is actually so gullible and weak for 4c its insane. Like he'll just believe him huh. And no matter how many times he lies to Ish, or how many times he tries to gaslight him, he'll still just. Believe him. The way this is so true 4ish rlly are that exact scenario. Hell, Ish would drink the cyanide willingly but 4c would also stand next to him holding the damn glass up to his mouth and Ish would be exactly where he wanted to be. Its a good question as to who gave him power!! what the freak, how could yall, look at what hes doing !! "Mutually beneficial destruction" is so accurate. Its like enrichment for them. The idea of the different bases being: first base "Torture my potenital lover" ; second base "Kill me or I'll kill myself". And Ish either has to pull the trigger or 4c's gonna do it himself. I said something abt this somwhere once, 4c loves either threatening to kill himself or killing himself to change the trajectory of everybodies lives and this is exactly what he does to Ish. With also the added of making my crushes kill me to change the trajectory of their lives. Excited to find out whay the third base is! Maybe Ish would kill himself too. Wouldnt that be romantic you guys

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ALSO 4AC YOURE SO RIGHT LOWKEY. They're like that one tumblr post "poly relationship but it's to people in a romantic relationship and a third who's obviously aroace but too ingrained to not be included" or smth. That's them. That's them in my heart icl (and in Bannerfall and cowboys. How has this happened twice). Like they genuinely just yoinked him off the streets and went "yeah, we're keeping you :)" and that was that. Also go my agender slimes headcanon, all my favourites get the agender beam and 4c, it's your turn.