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Just a quick note as what might transpire this. There have been posts from fans pressuring about the lack of Shinhwa activities and Eric got the flak usual. One post in particular on the day before (Saturday night) that tagged all the members that probably why this happened, why he feels he’s been treated unfairly, as well as explaining why he had to go on SNS.

The clash between Eric and Dongwan is nothing new. It is mostly personality differences and ways of doing things. We are posting this because everyone has the right to understand what’s going on with a full and accurate translation (as accurate as possible) of how things went. Thanks so much 6crystalis for these long translation.

Eric’s 1st post:

I was keeping track quietly, but the problem is that the gap between internal affairs compared to external perception is too big, and so, there is constant conflict between the two. I thought if just leave it, it would slowly disappear by itself. Instead, the difference became so big, these was nowhere left to take a stand. I always thought that when it came to problems, the right thing to do was to dig it up by its roots and untangle it bit by bit; you shouldn’t try to cover it up and pretend nothing happened. But in the end, I chose to listen to the opinions of different people and left it alone. One guy who always put group activities before all other work. Another guy who puts certain emphasis on solo activities, but during this period is emphasizing on Shinhwa activities. Although, it caused problems for group communication and schedules, but to fans, he is an intimate and gentle guy. Two people with different thought processes, so I’ve decided I need to go find and understand each person’s differences. But everyone is too one-sided on who they are listening to, to the point that only support the one saying nice words to them, and cursing the condition of the person who is quietly working hard for the group. Isn’t that too much? If the problem only stopped at supporting VS not supporting, it doesn’t matter, but is it really necessary to go to the extremes of praising one side to high heavens and making personal attacks on the other? Right now, it’s not 50/50, it’s more than 90% of the people who think the latter’s style is correct. Then that means everything I had been doing during that period is wrong. Just let me switch places with the later then, it’s easy. But, can you put on some restraint, the group of people on DC? Aren’t you tired? Stop gathering in groups in places I’m absent and discussing things that aren’t set? If you want to talk about those things, then say it when you come join the group meeting. Didn’t I already ask you guys (the members) 3 weeks ago about setting the schedule? If you actually want to resolve this, then let’s talk. I have no way of contacting you, so I’ll tag you, and I will also let Andy know. You’ll invite me to tomorrow’s live right? I’ll be there.

Note: Eric tagged Dongwan for this post as seen in the photo

Source: muneric Translation: 6rystalis

Eric’s 2nd post:

Because I was afraid of causing conflict, I thought just leaving it would make it disappear, so I chose to say pretty words filled with hope that were false to make people happy and just leave everything. I think that’s just making me doenjang (superficial/full of BS)

Text on the chat:

ERIC: What time is the live tomorrow, Andy? ANDY: The time is not set yet, hyung. We’ll set it after meeting with Dongwanie hyung tomorrow. ERIC: Can you tell him to invite me for tomorrow liveㅎㅎ ANDY: Okay ERIC: ㅋㅋㅋ ANDY: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ ERIC: I’m curious what he’ll say ㅎㅎ No matter what he says, just forward it to me. I’ll also adjust as needed. If it’s really too convenient, then I’ll think of a way to adjust it. ANDY: eung eung (yes yes)

Source: muneric Translation: 6rystalis

Dongwan’s post:

I am Kim Dongwan.

First of all, I feel very sorry for all the Shinhwa Changjo who got shocked.

Tomorrow, I will meet the members and have a good talk. Because it is internal affairs, we should discuss it among ourselves first.

The previous announcement about holding a live with Andy will go ahead as planned.

The conception of Shinhwa albums and concerts require the investment of a lot of manpower. This isn’t completed by members on their own, or can be completed by just any member. To members, Shinhwa activities are very important and something they really look forward to. So, I have always taken into account the opinions of all six members, and after adjustments, produce a conclusion that is satisfying to all members.

Before getting this conclusion, other than the members’ opinions, communication with the production team is also very important. It requires the polishing of time and opportunity.

Apart from the problem about contacting me… If we could’ve had a little bit of communication with the production team beginning last year, if we could’ve communicated so that they could feel at ease, then Shinhwa and Shinhwa Changjo wouldn’t have had to encounter a situation like this… This is a point that I feel a bit regretful about.

We work hard together to be the Shinhwa that will paint a beautiful painting for Shinhwa Changjo.

Thank you, everyone.

Source: danedkim Translation: 6rystalis

Eric’s 3rd post:

Starting from 3pm, I had been asking Dongwannie and constantly checking with Andy for updates, but there was no answer at all about whether he was going to accept or reject my request to be there. Said it was because the production team couldn’t contact me, so that’s why they couldn’t go forward with their work. Then let me tell you about my position. It started around “Sniper” activities? Around 2015-2021, he hasn’t been in our group chat for 6 years; and after being blocked, I never got his new phone number. During the time I announced my marriage, because of “whether I let the members know I was getting married”, I was being attacked. There was that brother that came out and loudly said, “Eric definitely has his own reasons~ Please understand~” Kept getting cursed or something. From the blank period in the military to album production in the years that followed, schedules and venues were booked one year in advance by me. I wouldn’t know how to keep in contact with the production team? In those 6 years, I’m always telling everyone we should hold a meeting. Every time, the schedule is adjusted weeks in advance so that we can have this hard-earned chance to meet up. Even like that, we weren’t able to see each other. There are too many times where there was no other way because of deadlines to just hold a meeting with 5 people.

Last year was the same. Again, I told the members that we should meet, everyone should open up some time in your schedule. And then the date was set, but on the day, we were stood up. The kind-hearted members were finally able to meet up after so much, but weren’t even able to take a picture for proof before we separated. I was also really tired, so I suggested if it’s hard to find time in your schedule, then let’s use group chat to to figure things out, it’ll be more convenient. I’m also really busy with work. Each time I have to adjust my schedule so we can meet, but if it gets cancelled on the day, I’ll also feel really tired. Even so, he still refused to use group chat to discuss things. I’m also human. I thought, “We’re in pandemic conditions and I still have dramas to film. If it continues like this, just leave it, stop pretending to be close.” And so, at the end of last year, I stopped joining the group chat. But the root of the problem is here. In the 6 years that I have been doing all this, where I was constantly cursed, after I left group chat for a mere 3 months? Under the circumstances where I was absent, you had a meeting in a chat, in the way where you are comforting others and telling them to air out their raincoats? At that point, I couldn’t hold it anymore. A few days ago, a Shinchang chat was established in Clubhouse. Like it was an official channel, you talked about things that members have never discussed or confirmed. There was even content that we haven’t even heard of before. Yesterday, you said, “It wasn’t you. It was because there are a few members who don’t want to hold Shinhwa activities that these activities weren’t confirmed in the end” ?

I’m not playing that despicable SNS where you can say things without leaving any evidence, talking about things that don’t exist or politics where people criticize you. But to be different from being like that despicable SNS. I chose to leave a record of what I’m saying to be criticized. I guess it can be considered me saying what’s on my mind. 6 years and 3 months. I’m too angry, so I suggested in the past that for 3 months, everyone should calm down on their own and think about what our things mean to us. If suggesting these 3 months is wrong, then I admit it, I apologize. But, in the post, it brought up the production team. I really want to ask, am I really the one affecting Shinhwa’s schedule? Up until now, I’ve asked another members about this situation, yet I’m still unable to get a solid answer about whether you’re accepting my arrival. Instead, you confirmed on Instagram that it’s Eric and the production team’s miscommunication that things couldn’t be confirmed? I’m preparing to take a rest right now. I’m going to treat it as you rejecting to invite me to join you tomorrow. If members discuss things in the future and really want to make our dongsaeng, who’s caught in the middle, uncomfortable, then just continue to do so. The person I wanted you to invite was me, so why are you replying to the fans? It would be great if I also had the ability to omit the main point and say words that sound nice to the ears. But, I’m also human. I apologize to everyone for having to listen to such tiring story.

Dongwan’s reply: I had a phone call with Andy around 6pm. I said that the 3 of us should meet and talk together. Perhaps he hasn’t told you yet.  I’m coming to Seoul tomorrow. We’ll talk face to face.

Source: muneric Translation: 6rystalis 

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