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DELTARUNE

Who Are You?

Status: Completed Words: 20,311 Chapters: 2/2 Description: A small fic dealing with Ralsei's own perception of the Player (Who in the fic is the Angel). His spiraling over their ever-changing nature and confusing actions leads to him calling out their name.

A World Without You

Status: Completed Words: 61,740 Chapters: 5/5 Description: A refutation of the theory that "The Only Winning Move is Not to Play". The Angel (Player) leaves the world of Deltarune, believing that they are meant to leave the world earlier this time to let everyone be happy. This causes catastrophic results, and Kris, Susie, and Ralsei must deal with the resulting aftermath. Salvaging the situation seems impossible... but...

When Did You Start Being Yourself?

Status: Completed Words: 42,796 Chapters: 3/3 Description: A continuation of A World Without You. The Titan's question digs into the Angel far more than it should have, causing the Titan battle to go a bit differently.

What Did You Do?

Status: Completed Words: 98,596 Chapters: 6/6 Description: A continuation of the previous two fics. Ralsei wakes up in the Light World, but something is missing. Words have already been said. Actions have already been taken. The rules have been mangled, but surely it won't be much longer before things turn back to normal, right?

A Future Without Them

Status: In Progress (Priority) Words: 702,684 Chapters: 39/? (Longfic) Description: The Angel grows more hopeful that they will escape their banishment, choosing to voice their want to stay with the friends they have made. When the Roaring comes, everyone falls. In a last desperate attempt to save the Angel, an old connection is reestablished. The old world has forgotten the Angel, but they have not forgotten it. The Angel only has one goal: Find them.

The Legend of Zelda

Skybound Wishes

Status: In Progress Words: 271,622 Chapters: 23/? Description: A Champions-Saved canon-divergence of Breath of the Wild where the neverending reincarnation of hatred in Hyrule is called into question. It's also a Revalink fic. I will break Revali like a twig multiple times over for fun.

Divine Condemnation

Were we told why the true reset happened? Im combing through what i remember of the situation before they left and i dont recall a reason for that specifically

If not i assume itll be plot relevant later on

Also cant wait for asriel to either tear into chara about being abandoned or cry that they arent actually gone forever, probably both

The Angel has done countless True Resets. True Resets start to mean nothing when you're just going between every timeline haphazardly. Really, they're just a clean slate.

There was no reason for the Angel's final True Reset just as there was no reason for them doing so hundreds of times as implied by an interaction that Asriel had with them. They were just repeating. Over. And over. And over.

What was the order of events in The angel's Undertale?

Like for example: did they do the neutral → True pacifist → Genocide → every other neutral run

Or did they go through a different order?

Or is it like, up to interpretation?

It's meant to mostly reflect other players' experience, but the Angel was deranged about it in a way that does kinda make their path a bit more distinct.

Neutral (or killing Toriel and resetting, either or) -> Multiple Pacifists -> Dipping into neutrals again -> No Mercy -> Chaotic mess of any timeline that they could possibly try to find anything. This goes on for a very very long time.

The timeline sequence that everyone remembers, because no one but the Angel remembers a True Reset (Including Chara due to them not having the Angel's soul), is the following.

The one eye is totally for aura purposes, and definitely because I don't wanna bother making the eyes centered in one direction.

They do have both of them don't worry imagine it like sans's eyes, they can turn it off if they feel like. (maybe I'll change how they look eventually, who knows?)

IT'S DONE RAAAAAAGH.

OUGHGHGHGH THE SILLY LITTLE CRITTER! This came out incredibly well! Was great seeing all of your progress on them, and you definitely nailed the snout this go-around!

And honestly, I like the eye thing! They're giving me incredible Seam vibes rn, which is awesome because Seam is the goat. We're not calling it the sans eye though. You have no idea how many player inserts had the sans eye back in the day. WE CAN'T DO IT AGAIN-

Love the heart motif on their overall dress (if that's the correct term). I love that they're even in a dress at all. They get to look just a bit pretty, as a treat. And they got the floppy earsss THE FLOPPY EARSSSS. You can legally make the ears as long as you want this is how it works (I will regret this). I very much enjoy Dreemurr ears flopped on the shoulders you have no idea. Gives me life.

And I think this led me to seeing a pattern here which leads me to believe that this game is actually about to do possession theory with its whole chest but in the way where "You are evil for existing and Kris is your hapless victim."

Even though this sucks actual ass.

This is going to be an incoherent ramble that is far too invested in something that upsets me, so only click read more if you want to deal with incessant whining.

So like, if Chapter 5 came out before Chapter 4... do you think you'd be fine with Chapter 5? Like Chapter 5, before 4, wouldn't be this tone shift and 4 would flow also flow into 6 and 7 pretty nicely me thinks.

Also like... I don't get the idea that Toby Fox who's middle name as enforced by the community is 'Radiation' doesn't have enough time for everything being covered in Chapter's 6 and 7?

Pretend with me that 5 has been erased from existence and the only remnant of it is a man behind a tree for a sec.

1 2 3 4 6 7

If 4 is the set up to the lore being dropped... that's like 1/3rd of the game left to cover it. Including 4 in the "What the hell is up with the Dark World and related stuff" list, the lore drops take up half the game (ignoring chapter 5 of course).

And also Chapter length isn't like... static? Here look at this website! It has the general lengths it takes to beat each chapter on it! Maybe not the most reliable, but like Chapter 1 compared to Chapter 5 is a three hour difference! And that's ignoring the extra stuff and just playing through from A to B casually!

So like, if 4, which was 5ish hours, could do so much that it did with that amount of time... then if 6 and 7 are as long then I think it'll be fine!

So who knows, 6 and 7 might come out and you could just ignore 5 and things would be fine!

Maybe.

Hopefully?

As respectfully as possible, this is a revolving door at this point where people keep trying to “reassure me” against my fears about this game. I was called irrational even when ch5 hadn’t come out yet that I didn’t know how Toby was going to resolve all of it in three chapters. Well, now everyone else is suddenly feeling the time crunch a little more.

We are analyzing the game as-is. Since it decided to release chapter by chapter, it is subject to scrutiny chapter by chapter.

First, in my post about “how do we have room for all of this”, I stressed additional things. Can it be done in a way that is WELL PACED, SATISFYING, and ANSWERS ALL THE QUESTIONS. With everything being pinned to these two chapters, and with the Roaring telegraphed to happen at some point, time is so unbelievably compressed. The only solution is for obscenely long chapters, which can shoot pacing in the head and cause chapters to be a slog to play through. Chapter 5, admittedly, was already starting to feel like that.

“Half of the game is lore if you remove this chapter” is disingenuous, because it removes the context of what Chapter 4 set up as the tone for the game. Chapter 4 set up that things were changing from now on, that there’s a storm coming, and that all of these characters care about each other and are going to stick together through thick and thin. All of this character and plot development is then subsequently ignored in ch5, meaning that we have character regressed and will likely need whole ass arcs to happen again in ch6.

The pacing of the game is shot by ch5 no matter which way you slice it. It did functionally nothing to progress or even lightly nudge a plot forward

It also broke which questions were being primed.

At the end of ch4, we had Susie beginning to ask about the soul. We had Ralsei’s identity plot front and center. We had the prophecy shattered and Susie’s hope and resolve that it wasn’t going to happen. All of those little plot threads were primed to be attacked, and then…

It’s all dropped.

So now, we have to somehow reignite those plot threads. We have to find a new impetus. We have to get BACK to those threads naturally in order to answer them… unless we just have Ralsei stand around and do an unsatisfying lore drop. And let me tell you, we are in no position to get to these questions anytime soon in ch6 with how ch5 left us. We left off with Susie nice and comfy in castle town, and she’s likely going to go tell Noelle about Dark Worlds which will lead to Noelle making one to save her dad.

So we have to battle with the current actual plot so that the plot Already being primed can finally come back. And the Roaring is going to happen on top of that.

You all are well meaning and trying to comfort me, but I have REASONS for feeling the way I do about this game.

8 years. 8 actual years of a story that's chasing itself in circles, and every chapter that releases causes the fanbase to become more aggressive than the last time.

Like it’s been thoroughly established so far that the Angel and UT Asriel went to SERIOUS blows because of Flowey (later Asriel) being obstinate and purposely antagonistic (for incredibly well-written and understandable reasons but STILL). The Angel is only just coming to a more peaceful equilibrium with Asriel, and even then I honestly don’t think it’ll be all that “peaceful” of one… I think there will still be plenty of room for antagonism… and at this point, despite their guilt, I think the Angel does genuinely hate Asriel as much as he hates them, and I believe they have the right to hold onto that hatred.

So I’m just a wee bit apprehensive about how they’ll react to meeting DR Asriel… albeit through a screen. I get a knot of anxiety when I think of what will happen when the Angel’s sprite rocks up claiming to be the Angel, from Prophecy, which Asriel has now spent a good while loudly decrying.

With Carol and the Dreemurrs and the Heroes all present.

It just feels like an enormous powder keg waiting to blow.

Luckily, this question would wait until the Angel is physically there. After all, they will be supposedly using their vessel that is still present within the Shelter.

The one without a face.

DR!Asriel has been sowing a hell of a lot of doubt though, but it could equally work in everyone's favor. Unfortunately, Carol can be quite persuasive, and she tends to be the one who shifts the blame for the Roaring onto the Angel for deviating from the path.

So so many things that can go wrong in a tight space full of disgruntled people.

the constant references to things in chapter 1, ralsei being forced to put the hat back on, the red trees at the beginning, the floradinns, the title popping up for Garden of Hopes and Dreams (which hasn't happened since Field of Hopes and Dreams in chapter 1!!) And???? The colored flowers just being the human souls?? to the point where they use the associated items and the ball game attributes in their check text???? Ralsei being revealed to have the ability to alter his own stats, and him being about to say something when protesting the infinite money chest only to backtrack and say the economy? And his aborted speech about the menus that I'm still bitter at flowery over? Oh! And the shift in the player's perspective when we use the feather! Shifting to a new control scheme that should be immediately and obviously different and strange to our party members in-universe! Even all the way to the end when flowery had his own recruits and was able to increase susie and ralsei's mercy meters!! I haven't beat the secret boss yet, but I've read about it and it seems like despite all the parallels to us and kris, there's no actual progress with that plot point. We don't even get any free-roam sections this chapter!

Obviously not all of this was going to amount to things, but some details in particular (especially the music title thing and the colored flowers being the human souls) just feel so odd to not have an in-universe meaning. I keep hearing that there's still two more chapters and payoff can come later, but some of this is so chapter specific? Are we really gonna talk about the flowers' check text again when that dark world is already sealed? The fact that we're 5/7 chapters in and there's still been no real player mentions, the fact that all our relevant scenes are still just kris tearing us out for a bit before the plot moves on like nothing happened (and susie and ralsei are STILL basically just ignoring it?? Why is everyone just pretending to be clueless all the time???) it makes almost me wonder if the player has ever been very important to the plot at all, or if this has just been another case of the fandom collectively hallucinating because of confusing signals from toby, like what we did with the whole "chara is evil and possessing frisk" bs

uh yeah sorry for the rant I just wanted to share with a fellow player supporter also I really was intending to keep commenting on AFWT but I've kinda been really embarrassed about our last interactions aha

GUYS!!!! LOOK!!!!!!! IT'S THE "LAST GOOD ADVENTURE" MEANT TO EMULATE THE FIRST ADVENTURE!!! HAHAHAHAA LOOK AT HOW MUCH WE'RE CLINGING TO THE PAST!!!!!!!

Insecure ass narrative. If the story wanted to show the storm on the horizon, then it should have colored all of the chapter interactions with the information learned last chapter! Instead, the most we get is wishy washy Ralsei bullshit where he and Flowery have a competition about who can be vague the most.

You can write calm before the storm. You can write a fluff chapter. You can write one last good day before everything goes wrong. The problem is you also cannot do that while ignoring what happened previously! You cannot just seemingly remove how deeply affected characters were in Ch4 the morning after! If you want to do that plotline where everyone is clinging to normalcy, then SHOW IT! Instead, we have character regression all over the place with Susie not giving a singular shit about Ralsei's bullying and leaving him behind after she BLED ON HIS FACE I AM GOING TO LOSE IT.

Oh yeah, the main meat of the ask.

Yeah, you'd think this chapter would deal with the soul, especially considering how there's a whole ass soul pixel art you can reveal in one of the gardens with a watering can. Nope! We get one whiff of UI stuff before it's just completely shattered! The game feels like it's building to something with all of this talk about cheating, but then explodes.

Because Flowery fucking dies. All that cheating? Yeah, we just figured out what it brings. Almost like since ch1 we've known that fully shattering the prophecy through drastic means would also probably affect the ending of "the world's being saved".

This chapter is the quintessential nothing burger. It's long. It's arduous. There's so many lines of dialogue and strange things in it. But all of it is so needlessly vague and leads to absolutely nowhere to the point where it's exhausting to engage with. Look in the direction of the fanbase right now! They're all tearing each other apart because nearly every single plot point, character or otherwise, was handled in the most vague way possible so everyone's jumping each other on what the "correct" interpretation is. I'm here to tell you that yall deserve better writing at this point, because holy FUCK subtext is cool and all, but I think it's time for characters to talk like people instead of talking with specifically enough information to keep us in the dark, even when a character has no motive to do so.

2 chapters to go, and there's not enough time to resolve all of this in a way that's satisfying and well-paced without making the chapters both 20 damn hours long. I don't think people realize that we're pretty much doomed to have a Roaring segment during all of this. That's going to hijack the plot entirely for a bit, so you have even LESS time.

A more damning comparison to make is that this is the Tears of the Kingdom to Deltarune Chapter 1’s Breath of the Wild, in the sense that despite reusing so many assets and ideas (I cannot BELIEVE the arrogance of the song title “Inappropriate Recycling”), it is utterly uninterested in exploring the ramifications of the prequel’s story and worldbuilding and deeper meaning (to the point that you could almost think of both of them as “second drafts trying to overshadow the original” instead of as “sequels”), in favor of focusing on mechanically fascinating and technically impressive game mechanics that are not utilized nearly well enough by the story to justify the time spent implementing them (e.g. Ultrahand builds despawning instead of having tangible benefits to other NPCs in 99% of cases with little creative freedom in the remaining 1%, no questioning of the Petal Feather game mechanics and the fact we’re suddenly okay with “attacking other people’s attacks” from Susie and Ralsei unlike the constant banter from the games in Chapter 3).

There is no possible way in hell that this incoherent mess would’ve been included in the initially-planned 3+4+5 release schedule as it is right now. We fought a TITAN in Chapter 4 and they expect us to be satisfied with a return to form??? What could have possibly happened during development for this to be the final result????? (Conspiracy theory: the Undertale 10th anniversary livestream took place so that Toby could gauge audience responses to whether learning more about the other six fallen humans from Undertale would seem interesting, and he learned the wrong lesson from that)

The TOTK comparison at first made me go "I think we're grasping at straws" but the more I thought about it. Lmfaoooooo wait you're right.

The chapter, like TOTK, forgets it's a sequel (or outright ignores the fact that events transpired directly before this that should PROBABLY AFFECT THINGS). This is a CHAPTER in a CHAPTER BASED STORY where it so very rarely actually acts like the previous chapters exist. Again, to reiterate a point I've said so many times, Susie bled on Ralsei's face. They fought a Titan together. They saw the Final Tragedy together.

But ohhhh we can forget about THAT because it's time for FESTIVAL SUSELLE MOMENTS.

The side scroller thing as well is making me cackle. It is exactly what happened when TOTK released as well. Most criticism of the game was deflected by "Well I think the build mechanic was fun" when it's entirely disjointed from the rest of the game and appears to be pushing the limitations for... what exactly? Deltarune's RPG mechanics are still woefully underdeveloped. You have no way of tactically engaging with the bullet board portion of combat, HALF OF THE BATTLE STATE, unless an ACT tells you that you can. No means of defense. No ways of affecting bullets. No push and pull with the dodging system to sacrifice progress to make an attack easier for you. Your "choice" is dodge and heal.

Also, another TOTK-like trait, characters just utterly forget the trajectory of their character arcs and what they went through previously. Like seriously? Link is back to doing the silent knight schtick for Zelda and Hyrule even though we clearly established that's toxic to him in BOTW, and instead of continuing that arc, we instead show him not emoting at all when Zelda's fate is revealed. Also we're reestablishing Hyrule despite how much harm it has caused and showing everyone swearing fealty to Zelda as a good thing. Lol. Lmao. Yeah, let's have Ralsei forget all that he has been trying to do against the prophecy. Let's have Susie completely forget her resolve against the prophecy and to keep her friends close. Let's have Susie lose all of her perceptiveness when something's wrong with her friends!!! I LOVE IT WHEN CHARACTER ARCS GET RESET!!!! I LOVE IT WHEN WE GO BACK TO SQUARE ZERO BECAUSE WE NEED KRIS TO NOT BE QUESTIONED YET!! AAA AAA

See people keep telling me that this chapter would've made a hell of a lot more sense if it was included in the package, and I couldn't disagree more. If we had that doom and gloom chapter, and then just skipped to happy stuff without anything being addressed, I would genuinely begin to wonder what the fuck Deltarune's story even is. Ch3 and 4 had some of the most potent build-up in the game, and then it all gets dropped??? At least I would've known not to waste my damn time with the series.